On 7 Feb 2006 02:02:42 -0800, Ben Sizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fred is exactly correct. Slicing is absolutely basic to Python. > > Accordingly, it gets covered right at the beginning of the tutorial > > (section 3.1). > > Yes, right after UTF encoding details, complex numbers, and various > mentions of shell scripts.
Now that is GPotD (Good Point of the Day) which is much better than QotW as it's actually useful. > I don't want to criticise the hard work that > went into making the tutorial but let's not pretend it's the epitome of > documentation or even necessary the most obvious reference for users. > > > Likewise, the del keyword is fundamental -- if you > > can't get, set, and del, then you need to go back to collections > > school. > > I have hardly used the del keyword in several years of coding in > Python. Why should it magically spring to mind in this occasion? > Similarly I hardly ever find myself using slices, never mind in a > mutable context. > > del L[:] is not obvious, especially given the existence of clear() in > dictionaries. I'm not necessarily requesting a clear() method, but I am > requesting a little more understanding towards those who expected one. > The list interface is full of redundant convenience methods, so one > more would hardly be a surprise or an unreasonable thing for people to > expect. Again we unfortunately have a bit of an attitude problem > towards anyone posting here that doesn't know whatever the experts > think is obvious. I agree wholeheartedly with this, particularly as there often seems to be strong (and confusing) resistance to making Python easier and more obvious. I can only assume that it is by people who have forgotten what it is like to be an average programmer. (Paul Graham constantly makes the same mistake when he goes on about how everyone should use lisp). Ed -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
