Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Karen Shaeffer via Python-list
> On Aug 18, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > On 8/18/20 7:34 PM, rmli...@riseup.net wrote: >> I would also caution against relying on the idea of human rights when >> defending against accusations of being political, since they too are >> political. Life is political. We continue to

Re: LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread Jamelaumn
actually for me to sign for any online courses like stanford etc... if it's needed any document i couldnt get in because i have none i'm from brazil :v anyway thank u guys ;) i will try find something -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread Jamelaumn
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Re:Re: why the connection set with “keep live” in urllib.request always set to be“closed, thanks

2020-08-18 Thread xuanwu348
Thanks all, I had met this problem was when I did restapi test. I send a request by python script and the time processed by server very short, and another request send by postman, the time seems normal, I compare the diff between these two request, obvious difference is the connection, which i

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 8/18/20 6:34 PM, rmli...@riseup.net wrote: > I would kindly recommend that folks just educate themselves on what Speaking of being educated ... Could you please do an exposition for all us ignorant types on the books that really animate your worldview: The_Origin of the Family, Private P

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 8/18/20 6:34 PM, rmli...@riseup.net wrote: > I would kindly recommend that folks just educate themselves on what I would also like to help you become educated. Be sure to check out these literary treasures - they are the foundation of the worldview you are espousing: The_Origin of the Famil

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Richard Damon
On 8/18/20 7:34 PM, rmli...@riseup.net wrote: > I would also caution against relying on the idea of human rights when > defending against accusations of being political, since they too are > political. Life is political. We continue to this day trying to > redefine, as a society, what human rights

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread gia
Trafficking of people is a very current problem, and it is not a race issue, as people of all races are abducted by people of all races. Yes, right now. If you are so strong about ending that suffering, I suggest you focus on the present and stop wading in the past. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 6:36 PM

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread rmlibre
There are many reasons Elements is a terrible English style guide: https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/files/8520953/PULLUM_2010_The_land_of_the_free_and_the_elements_of_style.pdf I would kindly recommend that folks just educate themselves on what white supremacy is & how it continues in both subtle & ov

Re: LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread Michael Torrie
On 8/18/20 4:26 PM, Jamelaumn wrote: > i would say i'm new at programing i have a year of experience in python(but > i'm tottaly a noob) i guess i'm starting to learn SQL now.What should i do to > learn better and faster? The only way is to build something with it. Solve a problem with Python.

Re: LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread dn via Python-list
i would say i'm new at programing i have a year of experience in python(but i'm tottaly a noob) i guess i'm starting to learn SQL now.What should i do to learn better and faster? Enroll in the local college and start your journey there? Successfully finish it and get an internship. Follow with

Re: LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 5:32 PM Jamelaumn wrote: > i would say i'm new at programing i have a year of experience in > python(but i'm tottaly a noob) i guess i'm starting to learn SQL now.What > should i do to learn better and faster? > Enroll in the local college and start your journey there?

LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread Jamelaumn
i would say i'm new at programing i have a year of experience in python(but i'm tottaly a noob) i guess i'm starting to learn SQL now.What should i do to learn better and faster? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

LittleRookie

2020-08-18 Thread Jamelaumn
i would say i'm new at programing i have a year of experience in python(but i'm tottaly a noob) i guess i'm starting to learn SQL now.What should i do to learn better and faster? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:11 AM Kyle Stanley wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 2:37 PM Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Yes. I was hoping for "we should rewrite that commit", and would have >> been content with "we won't rewrite it, but we don't want that >> repeated". But the SC said that it is abso

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Kyle Stanley
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 2:37 PM Chris Angelico wrote: > Yes. I was hoping for "we should rewrite that commit", and would have > been content with "we won't rewrite it, but we don't want that > repeated". But the SC said that it is absolutely fine to write commit > messages like that. > While I'm

Re: Finding it very difficult to move pyexiv2 code from Python 2 to Python 3

2020-08-18 Thread Vincent Vande Vyvre
Le 18/08/20 à 19:22, Chris Green a écrit : > I have a fairly simple Python program that I wrote a while ago in > Python 2 that transfers images from my camera to a date ordered > directory hierarchy on my computer. > > I am trying to get it to work on Python 3 as I have just upgraded to > Ubuntu 20

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 8/18/20 12:28 PM, justin walters wrote: > I apologize for being ageist earlier as well. That was out of line. I am likely older than you and there is no reason to apologise. Only the profoundly undeveloped psyche takes every opportunity to find offense when none is intended. It is the sign of

Re: why the connection set with “keep live” in urllib.request always set to be“closed, thanks

2020-08-18 Thread Barry Scott
> On 18 Aug 2020, at 02:16, xuanwu348 wrote: > > > This means I want to structure my request header with "Connection: keep > alive" for the server which support connect alive, > But I checked the requeset header send by myself, the connection still > closed, no affect by set > > And I also

Re: Finding it very difficult to move pyexiv2 code from Python 2 to Python 3

2020-08-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:36 AM Chris Green wrote: > > I have a fairly simple Python program that I wrote a while ago in > Python 2 that transfers images from my camera to a date ordered > directory hierarchy on my computer. > > I am trying to get it to work on Python 3 as I have just upgraded to

Finding it very difficult to move pyexiv2 code from Python 2 to Python 3

2020-08-18 Thread Chris Green
I have a fairly simple Python program that I wrote a while ago in Python 2 that transfers images from my camera to a date ordered directory hierarchy on my computer. I am trying to get it to work on Python 3 as I have just upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 and on that Python 3 is now the default version of

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread justin walters
I believe the commit message was written in bad faith. It reeks of virtue signaling. Commit messages should remain purely technical in nature. However, I do think the change itself is valid. I don't care about the style of comments as long as they are clear and communicate their message well. How

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread gia
That's why I picked Math, it is also universally accepted, it's very strict, and it leaves the reader to decide its color based on themselves (it's not white btw :) On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:36 AM Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 8/17/20 1:26 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > For context, see this commit:

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 8/17/20 1:26 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > For context, see this commit: > > https://github.com/python/peps/commit/0c6427dcec1e98ca0bd46a876a7219ee4a9347f4 > > The commit message is highly politically charged and is now a > permanent part of the Python commit history. The Python Steering > Counc

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread J. Pic
I'm sorry Igor, I didn't mean to ruin your "conspiracy theories just hit the commit log day" -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Igor Korot
Hi, On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:27 AM J. Pic wrote: > > I think this commit message is not enough: we should take it further > and demand that Elwyn Brooks White choose change their last name to > something less supremacist. > > Also: I've been waiting long enough to see this drama hit the chess >

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Robin Becker
On 18/08/2020 04:53, thronobu...@gmail.com wrote: "Truth is a social construct." much as I deplore the politicization of computers, logic, maths and other areas of human interest by particular interest groups, according to some physicists, reality might be an observer based construct http

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread J. Pic
I think this commit message is not enough: we should take it further and demand that Elwyn Brooks White choose change their last name to something less supremacist. Also: I've been waiting long enough to see this drama hit the chess world by itself so I'm explicitly making the suggestion here. --

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2020-08-18 Thread Wingware
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Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:12 PM Richard Damon wrote: > > On 8/18/20 1:22 AM, justin walters wrote: > > I for one don't want to see politics involved in PL development. However, > > inclusivity isn't a political issue, it's a human rights issue. > > > > Do I agree with the PR, not exactly. However

Re: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread Richard Damon
On 8/18/20 1:22 AM, justin walters wrote: > I for one don't want to see politics involved in PL development. However, > inclusivity isn't a political issue, it's a human rights issue. > > Do I agree with the PR, not exactly. However, I do think we as a community > should be accommodating to people

RE: Final statement from Steering Council on politically-charged commit messages

2020-08-18 Thread David Raymond
> Do I agree with the PR, not exactly. However, I do think we as a community > should be accommodating to people > Whose use of the English language differs from the standard as long as the > meaning is clear. Remember that the problem isn't the change in wording of the PEP. That's all well and g