On 2015-05-03, MRAB wrote:
> There's also a mistake in this bit:
>
> """
> # Note that according to the \u escaping convention, a supplemental
> character (> 0x10) is represented
> # by a sequence of two surrogate characters: the first between D800 and
> DBFF, and the second between DC00
On 03/05/2015 12:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2015 12:16 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I doubt that six will ever make the standard library as 2.7 only has
another five years in official support. By that time I suppose we'll to
goi
On Sun, 03 May 2015 10:33:25 -0700, lbertolotti wrote:
> lucas@lucas-K55VD:~$ dpkg -l python-xlrd
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name
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On 2015-05-03 17:26, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2015-05-03, MRAB wrote:
On 2015-05-03 16:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:
That would, unfortunately, be "tell the Unicode Consortium to format
their documents differently", which seems unlikely to happen. I'm
trying to read in: http://www.unicode.org/Public/idn
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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Jon Ribbens
wrote:
> I did some experimentation, and it looks like the answer is:
>
> "\udb40\udd9d".encode("utf16", "surrogatepass").decode("utf16")
>
> Thanks for your help!
Ha! That's the one. I went poking around but couldn't find the name
for it. That's exac
Cecil Westerhof writes:
> I have a file where I used a lot of {0}, {1} and {2}. Most but not all
> are changed to {0:.3E}, {1:.3E} and {2:.3E}. But when I want to change
> the format I come in dependency hell.
>
> I could do something like:
> format = ':.3E'
> fmt0 = '{0' + format + '}
On 2015-05-03, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Jon Ribbens
> wrote:
>> That would, unfortunately, be "tell the Unicode Consortium to format
>> their documents differently", which seems unlikely to happen. I'm
>> trying to read in: http://www.unicode.org/Public/idna/6.3.0/Id
On 2015-05-03, MRAB wrote:
> On 2015-05-03 16:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>> That would, unfortunately, be "tell the Unicode Consortium to format
>> their documents differently", which seems unlikely to happen. I'm
>> trying to read in: http://www.unicode.org/Public/idna/6.3.0/IdnaTest.txt
>>
> That do
Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> I have a file where I used a lot of {0}, {1} and {2}. Most but not all
> are changed to {0:.3E}, {1:.3E} and {2:.3E}. But when I want to change
> the format I come in dependency hell.
>
> I could do something like:
> format = ':.3E'
> fmt0 = '{0' + format + '}
>
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On 2015-05-03 16:32, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2015-05-03, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Jon Ribbens
wrote:
If I have a string containing surrogate pairs like this in Python 3.4:
"\udb40\udd9d"
How do I convert it into the proper form:
"\U000E019D"
? The answer ap
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 6:38:28 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:59 PM, vasudevram wrote:
> > Re. statement of fact vs. hypotheses. While I'm not sure of your exact
> > meaning in that paragraph, I understand the concept, and yes, I was not
> > clear enough in phr
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:32 AM, Jon Ribbens
wrote:
>> You shouldn't even actually _have_ those in your string in the first
>> place. How did you construct/receive that data? Ideally, catch it at
>> that point, and deal with it there.
>
> That would, unfortunately, be "tell the Unicode Consortium t
Jon Ribbens :
> Python doesn't appear to have UCS-2 support, so I guess what you're
> saying is that I have to write my own surrogate-decoder? This seems a
> little surprising.
Try UTF-16.
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On 2015-05-03, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Jon Ribbens
> wrote:
>> If I have a string containing surrogate pairs like this in Python 3.4:
>>
>> "\udb40\udd9d"
>>
>> How do I convert it into the proper form:
>>
>> "\U000E019D"
>>
>> ? The answer appears not to be "u
I have a file where I used a lot of {0}, {1} and {2}. Most but not all
are changed to {0:.3E}, {1:.3E} and {2:.3E}. But when I want to change
the format I come in dependency hell.
I could do something like:
format = ':.3E'
fmt0 = '{0' + format + '}
fmt1 = '{1' + format + '}
fmt
Op Saturday 2 May 2015 16:20 CEST schreef Cecil Westerhof:
> I am throwing the cat among the pigeons. ;-)
>
> In another thread I mentioned that I liked to have tail recursion in
> Python. To be clear not automatic, but asked for.
>
> Looking at the replies I did hit a nerve. But I still want to
>
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Jon Ribbens
wrote:
> If I have a string containing surrogate pairs like this in Python 3.4:
>
> "\udb40\udd9d"
>
> How do I convert it into the proper form:
>
> "\U000E019D"
>
> ? The answer appears not to be "unicodedata.normalize".
No, it's not, because Unic
If I have a string containing surrogate pairs like this in Python 3.4:
"\udb40\udd9d"
How do I convert it into the proper form:
"\U000E019D"
? The answer appears not to be "unicodedata.normalize".
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On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 6:30:16 PM UTC+5:30, vasudevram wrote:
> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 4:48:11 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > On 5/2/2015 4:02 PM, vasudevram wrote:
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > Please refer to this blog post about code showing that a Python data
> > > structure can be sel
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:59 PM, vasudevram wrote:
> Re. statement of fact vs. hypotheses. While I'm not sure of your exact
> meaning in that paragraph, I understand the concept, and yes, I was not clear
> enough in phrasing that part. It should have read like something along these
> lines:
>
>
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 4:48:11 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 5/2/2015 4:02 PM, vasudevram wrote:
> > Hi group,
> >
> > Please refer to this blog post about code showing that a Python data
> > structure can be self-referential:
> >
> > http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2015/05/can-python-data-stru
On 05/03/2015 05:22 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 10:40 CEST schreef Ben Finney:
Cecil Westerhof writes:
When I have a value like 5.223701009526849e-05 in most cases I am
not interested in all the digest after the dot.
What type of value is it?
If the absolute value is
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 3 May 2015 12:16 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> I doubt that six will ever make the standard library as 2.7 only has
>> another five years in official support. By that time I suppose we'll to
>> going through the porting pain all ove
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Or if you prefer:
>
> try:
> range = xrange
> except NameError:
> pass
>
> and just use range.
I prefer this idiom, on the basis that code should be written for the
more recent version, and have minimal code to support older version
On Sun, 3 May 2015 02:51 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>> On 5/2/2015 5:31 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>
>>> Would it have been better if range() had been implemented as xrange()
>>> from the beginning? Sure, that would have been great. Except for one
>>> sma
On Sun, 3 May 2015 12:16 pm, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I doubt that six will ever make the standard library as 2.7 only has
> another five years in official support. By that time I suppose we'll to
> going through the porting pain all over again with the transition from
> Python 3 to Python 4. Alri
On Sun, 3 May 2015 08:33 am, BartC wrote:
> OK, so it's just an irritation then, as a workaround has been available
> for a long time. (For example, if you use xrange, it won't work on 3.x.
> If you use range, then it might be inefficient on 2.x.)
That is trivially easy to deal with. Put this at
On Sun, 3 May 2015 09:17 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> I believe that there was a time when printing a recursive structure hit
> the recursion limit like your flatten did. But I will not reload 1.5 to
> check.
No, that was already fixed by 1.5:
[steve@ando ~]$ python1.5
Python 1.5.2 (#1, Aug 27 2012,
On Sun, 3 May 2015 07:40 am, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> On 2015-05-02, BartC wrote:
>> So do I, I think, if no-one is willing to admit that the original way of
>> implementing range() was a glaring mistake.
>
> I think the issue is that nobody else here thinks the "original way"
> of iterating was to
"Dr. John Q. Hacker" writes:
> I'm thinking how interesting it would be to add code blocks to Python,
> so that arbitrary strings of code can be passed around. It would open
> up some interesting possibilities for self-modifying code and generic
> programming.
>
> Since Python has already a pleth
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 12:21 CEST schreef Mark Lawrence:
>> That looks very promising. But I use the test to verify the
>> correctness and show the performance. Is that also possible? Or
>> should I split those out.
>>
>
> Get it working correctly and if it's fast enough for your needs then
> job do
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> scripting
> languages often lack a C-style for-loop, using a foreach loop instead. E.g.
> I believe the canonical way to loop in bash is something like:
>
> for $i in `seq start stop` do ...
>
> (by memory).
Newer versions of bash have
On Sun, 3 May 2015 07:28 am, Tony the Tiger wrote:
> On Fri, 01 May 2015 14:42:04 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> use "l" as a variable name, as it looks too much like 1
>
> If you use a better font, they are very different. Besides, a variable
> name cannot start with a digit (nor can it be
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>> If the absolute value is bigger as 0 and smaller as 1, it should be
>>> a float. ;-)
>>
>> Or maybe a fractions.Fraction, or a decimal.Decimal, or a complex,
>> or maybe a RXSTRING or a Gmp.mpf! There's more than one way to store
>> a numb
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 1:32:14 AM UTC+5:30, vasudevram wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> Please refer to this blog post about code showing that a Python data
> structure can be self-referential:
>
> http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2015/05/can-python-data-structure-reference.html
>
> Gotten a couple of commen
On Sun, 3 May 2015 02:17 am, BartC wrote:
> But for looping over a simple integer range, then using 'range' to
> denote the range (and build a list as it used to do), was how it was
> done. And earlier on people would have been porting coding code to
> Python at which point a straightforward 'for
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 11:36 CEST schreef Mark Lawrence:
> Rather than reinvent the wheel maybe you can pinch something from
> here
> https://docs.python.org/3/howto/logging-cookbook.html#logging-to-multiple-destinations
That looks very promising. The only problem could be that it seems not
to have
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 11:51 CEST schreef Chris Angelico:
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>> Op Sunday 3 May 2015 10:40 CEST schreef Ben Finney:
>>
>>> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>>>
When I have a value like 5.223701009526849e-05 in most cases I am
not interested in
On 03/05/2015 10:49, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 10:45 CEST schreef Peter Otten:
Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Another question. Is it acceptable to have it in the module itself,
or should I put it in something like test_.py? The code for
testing is bigger as the code for the impleme
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 10:45 CEST schreef Peter Otten:
> Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> Another question. Is it acceptable to have it in the module itself,
>> or should I put it in something like test_.py? The code for
>> testing is bigger as the code for the implementation, so I am
>> leaning to putti
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Op Sunday 3 May 2015 10:40 CEST schreef Ben Finney:
>
>> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>>
>>> When I have a value like 5.223701009526849e-05 in most cases I am
>>> not interested in all the digest after the dot.
>>
>> What type of value is it?
>
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 10:40 CEST schreef Ben Finney:
> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
>> When I have a value like 5.223701009526849e-05 in most cases I am
>> not interested in all the digest after the dot.
>
> What type of value is it?
If the absolute value is bigger as 0 and smaller as 1, it should b
On 03/05/2015 09:22, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
For testing I want my messages time stamped like:
02:06:32: Check that the non recursive variants give the same value from
1000 upto 10 step 1000
02:06:32: Currently at1000
02:06:33: Currently at 11000
02:06:35: Currently
Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 5/2/2015 6:29 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> At the moment I define the test functionality in the following way:
>
> Any automated testing is better than none. For idlelib, I use unittest.
> For an individual project with specialized needs, I use a custom test
> frame
On May 3, 2015, at 10:22, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> For testing I want my messages time stamped like:
For progress reporting, I often use the module below (eta.py), which also gives
a projected time of completion:
import datetime, time, sys
etastart = 0
def eta(done, total, s, reportinterval=1
Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> writes:
> Be aware that there is also doctest which scans docstrings for text
> resembling interactive Python sessions. Doctests are both tests and
> usage examples, so I think it's good to put a few of these into the
> module.
Yes, it's definitely a good idea to pu
For testing I want my messages time stamped like:
02:06:32: Check that the non recursive variants give the same value from
1000 upto 10 step 1000
02:06:32: Currently at1000
02:06:33: Currently at 11000
02:06:35: Currently at 21000
02:06:42: Currently at 31000
Ben Finney writes:
> Assuming we're talking about a ‘float’ value::
>
> >>> foo = 5.223701009526849e-05
> >>> "{foo:5.1}".format(foo=foo)
> '5e-05'
That's not as clear as it could be. Better is to be explicit about
choosing “exponential” format::
>>> foo = 5.223701009526849e-05
Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Another question. Is it acceptable to have it in the module itself, or
> should I put it in something like test_.py? The code for
> testing is bigger as the code for the implementation, so I am leaning
> to putting it in a separate file.
Definitely use an established test
Cecil Westerhof writes:
> When I have a value like 5.223701009526849e-05 in most cases I am not
> interested in all the digest after the dot.
What type of value is it?
A ‘float’ value has many different textual representations, most of them
inaccurate. So talking about the digits of a ‘float’ v
On 03/05/2015 08:36, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
Thanks for the tips. For most I have to read a ‘little’ first, so I
will not implement them immediately.
Another question. Is it acceptable to have it in the module itself, or
should I put it in something like test_.py? The code for
testing is bigger a
When I have a value like 5.223701009526849e-05 in most cases I am not
interested in all the digest after the dot. Is there a simple way to
convert it to a string like '5e-05'?
I could do something like:
def format_small_number(n):
abs_n = abs(n)
assert (abs_n < 1) and (abs_n > 0
Op Sunday 3 May 2015 00:29 CEST schreef Cecil Westerhof:
> Still on my journey to learn Python.
>
> At the moment I define the test functionality in the following way:
> if __name__ == '__main__':
> keywords= [
> 'all',
> 'factorial',
> 'fibonacci',
> 'happy',
> 'lucky',
> ]
> keywords_msg
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