I don't know if I want to step into the flames here, but my understanding has
always been that in the absence of polymorphism the best you can do is "object
based" programming instead of "object oriented" programming.
Object based programming is a powerful step forward. The insight that by
asso
On 17 Oct 2013 05:48:10 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 00:22:47 -0400, random832 wrote:
>
>> While this flippant usage of "Nazi" (based on, as I understand it,
>> Seinfeld's "soup nazi") may be offensive, it has nothing to do with
>> sexism. If the scope of this discussion is to
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 00:22:47 -0400, random832 wrote:
> While this flippant usage of "Nazi" (based on, as I understand it,
> Seinfeld's "soup nazi") may be offensive, it has nothing to do with
> sexism. If the scope of this discussion is to be offensive module names
> generally, then the subject li
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:53:22 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
>> And your earlier idea that punched cards didn't have tokens is wildly
>> ignorant of the state of software and languages 50 years ago.
>
> Please tell me how you parsed tokens with binary switches 50 years ago.
> Your input is rubbish.
Owen Jacobson writes:
> 1. What social biases and problems *do* we unwittingly encourage by
> way of community-tolerated behaviour?
This is a well-worded good question, and I'd like to draw a connection
with another one you ask:
> 3. How can we reach out to the Ruby community and help *them* ge
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Owen Jacobson
wrote:
-snip-
> 1. What social biases and problems *do* we unwittingly encourage by way of
> community-tolerated behaviour? Where, if not through the conventions for
> naming, do we encourage sexism, racism, and other mindlessly exclusionary
> behavio
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 23:13, Owen Jacobson wrote:
> > * therapist - yeah, It passes as a double meaning - but still.
Or a single meaning. Who's to say the person who wrote the module even
had any idea it could be read otherwise?
> > * shag
Something to do with carpet?
> > * db_nazi
See belo
Last week, Elad Maidar wrote a fairly short but readable opinion
piece[0] illustrating some long-standing social problems in the Ruby
community, ending with a very specific call to action around naming
conventions for Ruby projects and gems. To save you the trouble of
scrolling to the bottom of
Mark Janssen writes:
>> And your earlier idea that punched cards didn't have tokens is wildly
>> ignorant of the state of software and languages 50 years ago.
>
> Please tell me how you parsed tokens with binary switches 50 years
> ago. Your input is rubbish.
With all due respect, Mark, your re
On 10/16/13 8:53 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
And your earlier idea that punched cards didn't have tokens is wildly
ignorant of the state of software and languages 50 years ago.
Please tell me how you parsed tokens with binary switches 50 years
ago. Your input is rubbish.
The mention of punched ca
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:31:09 UTC-4, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 16/10/2013 22:34, Brandon La Porte wrote:
>
> > I have the following code to make a plot of 4 different supply curves
> > (economics).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > from matplotlib import pyplot as plt
>
> >
>
> > price = range(0,5
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:17:57 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 10/16/13 8:13 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
>
> > Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was
> > invented.
Examples from
1. Linux Kernel
2. Python
3. OS/2
> > But, here it is significant that
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 11:46 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, MRAB wrote:
> > I'm guessing, but perhaps you need:
> >
> > instance = getattr(self, "%s" % key)
>
> How's that different from getattr(self,str(key))?
>
> ChrisA
I get the string of CheckBox instead
This code works fine when there are xls in which Row has One column, but
not when Row has more column.
The expectation is to merge the different xls into a common one.
Can somebody please help.
import xlwt
import xlrd
import sys
#Create workbook and worksheet
wbk = xlwt.Workbook()
dest_sheet = w
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark Janssen
wrote:
>> And your earlier idea that punched cards didn't have tokens is wildly
>> ignorant of the state of software and languages 50 years ago.
>
> Please tell me how you parsed tokens with binary switches 50 years
> ago. Your input is rubbish.
I c
> And your earlier idea that punched cards didn't have tokens is wildly
> ignorant of the state of software and languages 50 years ago.
Please tell me how you parsed tokens with binary switches 50 years
ago. Your input is rubbish.
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Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh writes:
> You say right, but i don't any time to read all of content of
> http://sscce.org/ , But when i saw its description , i found out ,
> it's a set of law for good answer/question
That's right. Please take the time to help us to help you, by following
that advice.
> A
On 10/16/13 8:13 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was invented.
If not, Linux, how about Python?
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/e2a411a429d6/Objects
Or huge slabs of the OS/2 Presentation Manager, which is entirely
object oriented and most
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, MRAB wrote:
> I'm guessing, but perhaps you need:
>
> instance = getattr(self, "%s" % key)
How's that different from getattr(self,str(key))?
ChrisA
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On 16/10/2013 23:14, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote:
Dear all,
I have the following code in projects.py:
##33
for row in xrange(len(uniqueFields)):
instance = QtGui.QCheckBox(uniqueFields[row])
projectsFindInstance.projectsInstan
You say right, but i don't any time to read all of content of
http://sscce.org/ , But when i saw its description , i found out , it's
a set of law for good answer/question, Also i saw PEP 8 , it's like old
style C, and i like CamelCase.
But now, all of my code doesn't work and related to the given
On 17/10/2013 3:57 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was invented.
"Aristotle maintained that women have fewer teeth than men; although he
was twice married, it never occurred to him to verify this statement by
examining his wives' mouths." -
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Mark Janssen
wrote:
> But, here it is significant that the user /consumer (i.e. *at the
> workstation* mind you) is *making* the "object" because thier visual
> system turns it into one. Otherwise, at the C-level, I'm guessing
> it's normal C code without objects
On Oct 16, 2013 11:54 PM, "MRAB" wrote:
>
> On 16/10/2013 23:39, Rotwang wrote:
>>
>> On 14/10/2013 06:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
>>>
def add(c1, c2):
% Decode
c1 = ord(c1) - 65
c2 = ord(c2) - 65
>
Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh writes:
> Thank you for your useful link , i paste my code into [an external
> pastebin service]
I'm glad you liked the link, but you haven't followed its advice :-)
Also, pointing us to a pastebin is not helpful. Please use a user-agent
that won't mangle your code so you c
Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was invented.
>>>
>> If not, Linux, how about Python?
>>
>> http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/e2a411a429d6/Objects
>
> Or huge slabs of the OS/2 Presentation Manager, which is entirely
> object oriented and mostly C. It's done with S
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 10:45 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh writes:
>
> > and another file,(projectsFind.py) i have the following code:
> > #3
> > for key, val in
> > self.projectsInstance.addOnFieldsInstance.
"Skybuck Flying" writes:
> version 0.01 created on 17 october 2013 by Skybuck Flying.
Thanks for writing your essay, but it's rather too long and context-free
to make a good post here.
Could you please post it on your weblog instead?
--
\ “Beware of and eschew pompous prolixity.” —Charle
Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh writes:
> and another file,(projectsFind.py) i have the following code:
> #3
> for key, val in
> self.projectsInstance.addOnFieldsInstance.items():
> instance = getattr(self,"%s" % val)
>
One final example plus further analysis to be perfectly clear what fine code
would look like and why it's adventage:
At the bottom I come to the conclusion that the proposed loop construct with
begin and ending conditions has merit after all ! ;) =D
LoopBegin
if not BeginningCondition the
version 0.01 created on 17 october 2013 by Skybuck Flying.
(after having some experience with python which lacks repeat
until/goto/labels and programming game bots)
(the exit conditions described below prevent having to use logic inversion:
while BeginCondition and not EndCondition <- ugly logic
Dear all,
I have the following code in projects.py:
##33
for row in xrange(len(uniqueFields)):
instance = QtGui.QCheckBox(uniqueFields[row])
projectsFindInstance.projectsInstance.addOnFieldsInstance.update({"%s" %
uniqueFields[ro
Hello
Can somebody tell me how I can test BockHosts? I want to see if an IP address
gets blocked or not, as I have to provide evidence of testing for a
presentation.
Any help will be greatly appreciated, thank you
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Andreas Ecaz writes:
> This might seem like a stupid question, but, how do people run the
> application? I get that I have to compile it and make it an
> executable. But how do I make it an executable? For Windows and Linux?
This isn't a question about GUIs, but about making a program executable
On 16/10/2013 23:39, Rotwang wrote:
On 14/10/2013 06:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
def add(c1, c2):
% Decode
c1 = ord(c1) - 65
c2 = ord(c2) - 65
% Process
i1 = (c1 + c2) % 26
% Encode
return chr(i1+65
On 14/10/2013 06:02, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
def add(c1, c2):
% Decode
c1 = ord(c1) - 65
c2 = ord(c2) - 65
% Process
i1 = (c1 + c2) % 26
% Encode
return chr(i1+65)
Python uses # for comments, not %
On 16/10/2013 22:34, Brandon La Porte wrote:
I have the following code to make a plot of 4 different supply curves
(economics).
from matplotlib import pyplot as plt
price = range(0,51)
q1 = [x/2.0 for x in price]
q2 = [x/4.0 for x in price]
q3 = [x/5.0 for x in price]
q4 = [x/10.0 for x in pr
I have the following code to make a plot of 4 different supply curves
(economics).
from matplotlib import pyplot as plt
price = range(0,51)
q1 = [x/2.0 for x in price]
q2 = [x/4.0 for x in price]
q3 = [x/5.0 for x in price]
q4 = [x/10.0 for x in price]
markers_on = [20, 40]
plt.plot(q1,price,
I've been looking at TkInter and GTK to do some GUI programming, they're both
cross-platform compatible.
This might seem like a stupid question, but, how do people run the application?
I get that I have to compile it and make it an executable. But how do I make it
an executable? For Windows and
On 16-10-2013 23:04, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:55:26 PM UTC-7, Harsh Jha wrote:
>> I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it
>> useful
>> to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that data?
>> Is it
>> faste
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:55:26 PM UTC-7, Harsh Jha wrote:
> I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it
> useful to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that
> data? Is it faster that accessing that file simply by opening it again
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>> Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was invented.
>>
>> I wonder if you've heard of something called linux?
>> http://lwn.net/Articles/444910/
>
> If not, Linux, how about Python?
>
> http://hg.python.org/cpython/f
Charles Hixson writes:
> On 10/13/2013 10:02 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> def add(c1, c2):
>>> % Decode
>>> c1 = ord(c1) - 65
>>> c2 = ord(c2) - 65
>>> % Process
>>> i1 = (c1 + c2) % 26
>>> % Encode
On 10/13/2013 10:02 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
def add(c1, c2):
% Decode
c1 = ord(c1) - 65
c2 = ord(c2) - 65
% Process
i1 = (c1 + c2) % 26
% Encode
return chr(i1+65)
Python uses # for comments, not
>> Who uses "object abstraction" in C? No one. That's why C++ was invented.
>
> I wonder if you've heard of something called linux?
> http://lwn.net/Articles/444910/
If not, Linux, how about Python?
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/e2a411a429d6/Objects
Skip
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On 2013-10-16, Mark Janssen wrote:
Types on the other hand correspond to our classifications and so are
things in our minds.
>>>
>>> That is not how a C programmer views it. They have explicit
>>> "typedef"s that make it a thing for the computer.
>>
>> Speaking as a C programmer, no. W
On 2013-10-16, Mark Janssen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> On 2013-10-15, Mark Janssen wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, well 40 years ago they didn't have parsers.
>>
>> That seems an odd thing to say. People were assembling and compiling
>> computer programs long before
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:27:03 PM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
> >>> Types on the other hand correspond to our classifications and so are
> >>> things in our minds.
> >>
> >> That is not how a C programmer views it. They have explicit
> >> "typedef"s that make it a thing for the computer.
> >
>>> Types on the other hand correspond to our classifications and so are
>>> things in our minds.
>>
>> That is not how a C programmer views it. They have explicit
>> "typedef"s that make it a thing for the computer.
>
> Speaking as a C programmer, no. We have explicit typedefs to create new
> la
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2013-10-15, Mark Janssen wrote:
>
>> Yeah, well 40 years ago they didn't have parsers.
>
> That seems an odd thing to say. People were assembling and compiling
> computer programs long before 1973.
I'm using the word "parser" in the sens
If run on my Debian Wheezy computer, or on my Debian Squeeze server,
the answer is instantaneous :
[...]
urllib2.URLError:
When run on my Raspberry Pi with Raspian Wheezy, the answer is
identical but it takes 10 seconds.
What happens when you use ping to resolve that address. Do you get
th
On 2013-10-16 13:22, Peter Otten wrote:
> The problem might be ipv6-related.
I second this as the likely culprit -- I've had to disable IPv6 on my
Debian laptop since my AT&T router is brain-dead and doesn't seem to
support it, so I would often get timeouts similar to what is the OP
describes and
In article <0044bfd0-f07f-4f7b-b976-5df034b6f...@googlegroups.com>,
Harsh Jha wrote:
> I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it
> useful to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that
> data? Is it faster that accessing that file simp
In article , John Nagle
wrote:
> Then upgrade to 3D. You can represent latitude and longitude
> as a 3-element unit vector. (GPS systems do this; latitude and
> longitude are only generated at the end, for output.)
And annoyingly so. Somebody I know was building a tracking system based
on a
Jérôme writes:
> Hi all.
>
> I'm having troubles with urllib2 timeout.
>
> See the following script :
>
>
> import urllib2
> result = urllib2.urlopen("http://dumdgdfgdgmyurl.com/";)
> print result.readline()
>
>
> If run on my Debian Wheez
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Would you like to become a developer of this program ?
http://pycam.sourceforge.net/
machines stl models?
The problem with stl is its just triangles. Video game stuff.
Iv'e machined stl models, only to realize th
Jérôme wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I'm having troubles with urllib2 timeout.
>
> See the following script :
>
>
> import urllib2
> result = urllib2.urlopen("http://dumdgdfgdgmyurl.com/";)
> print result.readline()
>
>
> If run on my Debian Whe
Le 16/10/2013 11:21, Jérôme a écrit :
Hi all.
I'm having troubles with urllib2 timeout.
See the following script :
import urllib2
result = urllib2.urlopen("http://dumdgdfgdgmyurl.com/";)
print result.readline()
If run on my Debian Whee
Hi all.
I'm having troubles with urllib2 timeout.
See the following script :
import urllib2
result = urllib2.urlopen("http://dumdgdfgdgmyurl.com/";)
print result.readline()
If run on my Debian Wheezy computer, or on my Debian Squeeze ser
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:51 PM, rusi wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:35:42 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Wirtel wrote:
>> Keep it in memory
>
> Thats a strange answer given that the OP says his file is huge.
> Of course 'huge' may not really be huge -- that really depends on the h/w
> he's us
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:35:42 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Wirtel wrote:
> Keep it in memory
Thats a strange answer given that the OP says his file is huge.
Of course 'huge' may not really be huge -- that really depends on the h/w he's
using.
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On 16/10/2013 07:55, Harsh Jha wrote:
I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it
useful to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that
data? Is it faster that accessing that file simply by opening it again and
again? Please explain, why
Keep it in memory
> On 16 oct. 2013, at 08:55 AM, Harsh Jha wrote:
>
> I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it
> useful to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that
> data? Is it faster that accessing that file simply by opening i
I've a huge csv file and I want to read stuff from it again and again. Is it
useful to pickle it and keep and then unpickle it whenever I need to use that
data? Is it faster that accessing that file simply by opening it again and
again? Please explain, why?
Thank you.
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