On Nov 19, 12:32 am, saccade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not a programmer so I feel odd commenting about language design
> decisions. When my Prof. introduced python the first question that
> popped into mind was that since "x=9; y=9; print x is y and x == y"
> prints "True" is there a way t
En Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:04:49 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�:
> Is there a way to create a .dll from a python program which includes
> the python runtime?
>
> I'm building a Windows application (C# VisualStudio2005) and I'd like
> to utilize some of the functionality available in a Python modu
On Nov 17, 7:46 am, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had a unsettling conversation with a CS instructor that
> teaches at local high schools and the community
> college. This person is a long-term Linux/C/Python
> programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and
> library models for C# hav
On Nov 17, 3:40 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> You can write your own membership test based on identity ('is'):
>
Thank you for the practical (usable) advice and explanation of the
'==' operator.
On Nov 17, 4:35 am, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And that can
En Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:10:18 -0300, Shane Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> En Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:25 -0300, Shane Clark
>> escribió:
>>
>>> I am trying to get my python app to output the name of the control
>>> under
>>> the mouse each time it is clicked.
On Nov 18, 3:54 pm, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What the heck is that format? XML's retarded cousin living in the attic?
ROFL...for some reason that makes me think of wierd Ed Edison from
maniac mansion, heh ;)
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As I see it, just as a matter of common sense, there will be no way to
match the performance of the backend eval() with any interpreted code.
At best, performance-wise, a preprocessor for the built-in eval()
would be in order, filtering out the "unsafe" cases and passing the
rest through. But what
On Nov 17, 12:41 am, Wildemar Wildenburger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is true that I could have been way more polite.
I don't see how. You said "please" read it. You didn't make fun of
the poor spelling and said nothing rude.
I can't agree that the response "reeks of arrogance." I've seen
On Nov 19, 3:46 pm, windspy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> use it like: x = math.sqrt (100) and math.sin(x)
alternatively import like this:
from math import sqrt, sin
... and use it like you have.
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On Nov 19, 10:48 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have carefully installed Python 2.5.1 under XP in dir E:\python25 .
> ran set path = %path% ; E:\python25
> Python interactive mode works fine for simple arithmetic .
> Then tried >>> import math
> >>> x = sqrt(100)
>Get error
On Nov 18, 3:08 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...listen() gets
> the initial connect() packet. accept() then is used to transfer the
> connection onto a /new/ work socket (freeing the listen socket to catch
> more connections)
>
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>> You know, I've always wanted ask; if plans are afoot, what are hands?
> The answer, seeing as it's late, is that whisky is at hand.
Ha. Brilliant answer! It also explains decorators :D
/d
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On Nov 18, 8:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have carefully installed Python 2.5.1 under XP in dir E:\python25 .
> ran set path = %path% ; E:\python25
> Python interactive mode works fine for simple arithmetic .
> Then tried >>> import math
> >>> x = sqrt(100)
>Get error
On Nov 18, 8:41 pm, rzed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:7ab5b781-3c6c-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> > please tell me what is python.This group is so crowded.
>
> I see nobody has chosen to answer your question seriously. I'll
> give you an answer, but it is probably
"Donn Ingle" wrote:
> > plans are afoot
> You know, I've always wanted ask; if plans are afoot, what are hands?
>
> :D
>
> Sorry, it's late.
The answer, seeing as it's late, is that whisky is at hand.
- Hendrik
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On Nov 19, 4:42 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:37:08 -0800 (PST), Zentrader
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
> > Damn! I joined this group because I thought it was a pie-a-thon. All
> > that practice has now gone to wa
(Dave) wrote:
8<- description of horrible problem --
Faced with this, I would:
1 - identify the modules that import gc to separate the
sheep from the goats.
2 - do my best to change gc importing goats back to sheep.
3 - amongst the remaining goats, identify the ones
On Nov 18, 8:24 pm, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tor Erik Sønvisen wrote:
> > Comments, speedups, improvements in general, etc are appreciated.
>
> You're doing a lot of repeated indexing of token[0]
> and token[1] in your elif branches. You might gain some
> speed by fetching these into loca
Have carefully installed Python 2.5.1 under XP in dir E:\python25 .
ran set path = %path% ; E:\python25
Python interactive mode works fine for simple arithmetic .
Then tried >>> import math
>>> x = sqrt(100)
Get errorName error : name 'sqrt' is not defined
Same th
Brian wrote:
> Had a unsettling conversation with a CS instructor that
> teaches at local high schools and the community
> college. This person is a long-term Linux/C/Python
> programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and
> library models for C# have proved to be less
> problematic t
Hi All,
I'm evaluting IPython to see if I can it use like Tcl and Tk. If I
start wish8.4, I get a command line
interpreter in xterm, then I can source tcl progams that draw tk
graphics on a canvas in another window.
Is there a way to embed IPython in a wxPython app to do that?
When I do as
At 05:33 PM 11/18/2007, Fredrik Johansson wrote:
>On Nov 19, 2007 2:23 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OK, I tried mpmath again, and to my surprise, it went well!
> >
> > ===
> > #!/usr/bin/env python
> > #coding=utf-8
> > from mpmath import *
> > mpf.
At 05:24 PM 11/18/2007, Fredrik Johansson wrote:
>On Nov 19, 2007 2:03 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 04:26 PM 11/18/2007, Fredrik Johansson wrote:
> > >On Nov 19, 2007 1:05 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Hi Dick, I recognize you from python-list, where you had a
On Nov 19, 2007 2:23 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I tried mpmath again, and to my surprise, it went well!
>
> ===
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> #coding=utf-8
> from mpmath import *
> mpf.dps = 50
> n = 1
> k = 0
> prod = mpf(1)
> while k < 10:
>
Tor Erik Sønvisen wrote:
> Comments, speedups, improvements in general, etc are appreciated.
You're doing a lot of repeated indexing of token[0]
and token[1] in your elif branches. You might gain some
speed by fetching these into locals before entering the
elif chain.
Also you could try ordering
On Nov 19, 2007 2:09 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:05:15 -0800, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
> > TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'float' and 'Float'
> >
>
>
> What restrict
On Nov 19, 2007 2:03 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:26 PM 11/18/2007, Fredrik Johansson wrote:
> >On Nov 19, 2007 1:05 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi Dick, I recognize you from python-list, where you had a question
> >about mpmath.
> >
> >Your code still won't
At 04:26 PM 11/18/2007, Fredrik Johansson wrote:
>Basically, sympy.numerics is an old version of mpmath. The
>sympy.numerics module is not very well integrated in SymPy, slower
>than mpmath, and has a couple bugs that have subsequently been fixed
>in mpmath. In sympycore (http://code.google.com/p/
On Nov 18, 5:59 pm, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No need to excuse. I think Ruby provides a nice context for discussing
> the semantics of top level "open classes". But I think those are
> entirely different than your contextual bindings. Note I find your
> proposal somewhat confusing
7stud wrote:
> If my platform accepted the connection, then why does my server
> program have to call accept()?
By making the listen() call, you've indicated your willingness
to accept connections. The accept() call just gives you a file
descriptor for the accepted connection (it's perhaps a littl
At 04:26 PM 11/18/2007, Fredrik Johansson wrote:
>On Nov 19, 2007 1:05 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Dick, I recognize you from python-list, where you had a question
>about mpmath.
>
>Your code still won't work if you convert the numbers to Floats
>because the Float type in sympy.n
This might be a perfect application for nucular.
http://nucular.sourceforge.net
If you need help using it I can help a bit by email (not
on the list).
If you want to build your own solution, what you have might
be fixable, but you need to take out the lowest level loops
by using dictionaries and
On Nov 19, 2007 1:05 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:42 PM 11/18/2007, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> >On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:02:01 -0800, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
> >
> > >
> > > This gets:
> > > Traceback (most recent call last
At 03:42 PM 11/18/2007, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:02:01 -0800, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
>
> >
> > This gets:
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "E:\PythonWork\Untitled 5.py", line 20, in
> > term = (e*
> To: python-list@python.org
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Getting name of control under mouse in Windows?
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:32:54 -0300
>
> En Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:25 -0300, Shane Clark
> escribi�:
>
>> I am trying to get my pyt
On 19 Nov., 00:02, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ps. Just for kicks, here is a simple ruby 1.8 mock-up of the proposal
> (sorry for using ruby, but I don't know enough C to start hacking the
> CPython backend; I think that a higher-level example is conceptually
> clearer anyhow).
No need
Ups - got it - there are no flags in finditer;-)
So rtfm, once again, jorgen!
gardsted wrote:
> I just can't seem to get it:
> I was having some trouble with finding the first following with this regex:
>
> Should these two approaches behave similarly?
> I used hours before I found the second on
On Nov 17, 10:34 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi folks - wondering if anyone has any pointers on troubleshooting
> garbage collection. My colleagues and I are running into an
> interesting problem:
>
> Intermittently, we get into a situation where the garbage collection
> c
Ps. Just for kicks, here is a simple ruby 1.8 mock-up of the proposal
(sorry for using ruby, but I don't know enough C to start hacking the
CPython backend; I think that a higher-level example is conceptually
clearer anyhow). Reference cycles are not detected in the example.
#!/usr/bin/ruby
class
Damn! I joined this group because I thought it was a pie-a-thon. All
that practice has now gone to waste/waist.
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Paddy wrote:
> On Nov 17, 1:46 pm, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Had a unsettling conversation with a CS instructor that
>> teaches at local high schools and the community
>> college. This person is a long-term Linux/C/Python
>> programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and
>> libra
Neal Becker wrote:
> robert wrote:
>
>> In a makefile I want to locate the .so for a dynamically linked
>> Python on Linux. (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name)
>> e.g. by running a small script with that Python. How to?
>>
>> Robert
>
> How about run python -v yourscript and filter the output?
>
James Stroud wrote:
> robert wrote:
>> In a makefile I want to locate the .so for a dynamically linked Python
>> on Linux. (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name)
>> e.g. by running a small script with that Python. How to?
>>
>> Robert
>
> def findaso(aso):
> import os
> for apath in os.sys.path:
On Nov 18, 5:27 am, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be unoriginal of me to suggest that this violates the explicit
> is better than implicit maxim. But it does.
That's what I meant about hiding the complexity of an attribute
failure. Though, sometimes implicit is acceptable (e.
gardsted schrieb:
> I just can't seem to get it:
> I was having some trouble with finding the first following with this regex:
>
> Should these two approaches behave similarly?
> I used hours before I found the second one,
> but then again, I'm not so smart...:
>
> kind retards
> jorgen / de men
On Nov 17, 3:21 pm, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and
> > library models for C# have proved to be less
> > problematic than Python. So both his courses (intro,
> > data structs, algorithms) are taught in C#.
>
> A little anecdotal compa
I just can't seem to get it:
I was having some trouble with finding the first
>
>
"""
print "The First approach - flags in finditer"
rex = re.compile(r'^<(?P[a-zA-Z0-9_]*)')
for i in rex.finditer(TESTTXT,re.MULTILINE):
print i,i.groups()
print "The Second approach - flags in pa
from __future__ import division
Here's what I'm trying to do, but using sympy:
=
from math import e
n = 1
prod = 1
k = 0
while k < 1000:
k += 1
term = (e**(1.0/n))/(e**(1.0/(n+1)))
prod *= term
n += 2
print prod, term
my apologies..:-(
the answer is in the shortest python-xlib example, profilex.py
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Hi Tim,
Thanks for the comments, I obviously hadn't thought beyond the simple
case.
I am happy I wrote (and that you Martin answered) instead of trying to
program myself into a halffunctional implementation %-)
Regards
Anthon
On Nov 18, 1:40 pm, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am look
Martin,
Thanks for pointing this out. I might have found that code eventualy
but it would
have taken me quite sometime.
There was a request from a user to make ordereddict more of drop-in
replacement for dict. That can be already be done by specifying the
relax keyword parameter (or defining a su
Hi,
A while ago I asked a question on the list about a simple eval
function, capable of eval'ing simple python constructs (tuples, dicts,
lists, strings, numbers etc) in a secure manner:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/58a01273441d445f/
>From the answers I got
On Nov 18, 10:40 am, 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it accepted
> the connection, then why do I have to call accept()?
That should read:
If my platform accepted the connection, then why does my server
program have to call accept()?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Nov 15, 2:38 pm, "SMALLp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Could someone please paste some program in wxPython that uses inharitance. I
>> would be very thankfull.
>
> Most examples of wxPython use inheritance. I would recommend going to
> their website and downloading t
Maurice LING wrote:
> John Salerno wrote:
>> Anyone know anything about this book? I've read a few intro Python books
>> already, but I'm always interested in reading more to reinforce the
>> language. No reviews on Amazon yet so I'm not sure if it's good or not.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> A cursory g
En Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:17:42 -0300, Maurice LING <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribi�:
> Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
>> Maurice LING schrieb:
>>> My question is: How can I shutdown this server and reuse port 35021
>>> when my functionlist changes?
>>
>> Shutting down gracefully might speed up things I gues
On 17 Nov, 19:58, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Google for Liskov Substitutability if you are interested. I didn't pull
> this idea out of my hat. In fact I learned the term from reading a post
> by GvR himself, though the idea was intuitive to me long before that.
>
> Carl Banks
Inte
On Nov 18, 8:18 am, Jean-Paul Calderone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:50 -0800 (PST), 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >According to "Python in a Nutshell(2nd)", p. 523:
>
> >connect: s.connect((host, port))
> >...
> >Blocks until the server accepts or rejects the conne
Hi,
I am looking for a kind of framework that let's me send events between
systems.
What I had in mind is common event bus that can be spread over
multiple systems.
On each system, there should be sort of an 'agent' that listens to the
events on the bus and acts upon them if they are destined for
En Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:30:04 -0300, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribi�:
>> I'm working on an application that is very memory intensive, so we're
>> trying to reduce the memory footprint of classes wherever possible. I
>
> I'd guess that if you __slot__-ed the Domain class then you'l
En Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:25 -0300, Shane Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribi�:
> I am trying to get my python app to output the name of the control under
> the mouse each time it is clicked. Currently, I am trying to do this
> with a combination of pyhook and pyAA, but pyAA gives me "pyAA.Err
The python-xlib documentation is confusing for me..and the examples
are too few :-(
I need simply to resize a window (named "firefox" for example),
but before I need the window's id, how can i obtain this id?
thanks in advance and please excuse me for my bad english..
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Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:7ab5b781-3c6c-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> please tell me what is python.This group is so crowded.
>
I see nobody has chosen to answer your question seriously. I'll
give you an answer, but it is probably not to the question you are
asking, either.
Python is not
bryan rasmussen schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Basically I want to get sys.argv[1: ] but the problem is that actually
> the argument should maintain whitespace. Thus if the arguments are
> something something with only one space between them, or something
> something with three spaces between them I should be
Hi,
Basically I want to get sys.argv[1: ] but the problem is that actually
the argument should maintain whitespace. Thus if the arguments are
something something with only one space between them, or something
something with three spaces between them I should be able to maintain
the exact whitespac
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:32:50 -0800 (PST), 7stud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>According to "Python in a Nutshell(2nd)", p. 523:
>
>connect: s.connect((host, port))
>...
>Blocks until the server accepts or rejects the connection attempt.
>
>However, my client program ends immediately after the call
> Maurice LING <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (ML) wrote:
>ML> Hi,
>ML> I have a problem:
>ML> 1. Assuming that my application is a SOAP server that uses SOAPpy,
>ML> 2. I am given port 35021 for use.
>ML> What I normally do (simply) is:
>ML> functionlist = []
>ML> import SOAPpy
>ML> server = SOAPpy.S
robert wrote:
> In a makefile I want to locate the .so for a dynamically linked
> Python on Linux. (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name)
> e.g. by running a small script with that Python. How to?
>
> Robert
How about run python -v yourscript and filter the output?
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"""I work right across from the Nanosystems Institute, and now this!
You
know, having studied a lot of microbiology in college, I can't fathom
the thought of being outdone. So I'm going to start doing
femtoruminating, which reduces thought to its most fundamental
particle,
the mor-on. """
Perhaps,
Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
> Maurice LING schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a problem:
>>
>> 1. Assuming that my application is a SOAP server that uses SOAPpy,
>> 2. I am given port 35021 for use.
>>
>> What I normally do (simply) is:
>>
>> functionlist = []
>> import SOAPpy
>> server = SOAPpy.SOAPServer((
On 11/16/07, Shawn Milochik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I completely support Wildemar. Lazy questions like that deserve absolutely
> nothing.
>
> I agree that cushioning the reply with a brief explanation of why that
> question sucks would have helped the original poster, but he doesn't deserve
>
Maurice LING schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem:
>
> 1. Assuming that my application is a SOAP server that uses SOAPpy,
> 2. I am given port 35021 for use.
>
> What I normally do (simply) is:
>
> functionlist = []
> import SOAPpy
> server = SOAPpy.SOAPServer((, 35021))
> for func in functionli
On Nov 18, 4:07 am, MonkeeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Proposal:
>
> When an attribute lookup fails for an object, check the top-level
> (and local scope?) for a corresponding function or attribute and apply
> it as the called attribute if found, drop through to the exception
> otherwise. Th
> I am looking for a way to determine the order of keyword parameters
> passed on to a class method.
I'm fairly certain it's not possible, as how would code like this
behave:
def my_func(**kwd):
kwd = OrderedDict(kwd) #magic happens here?
return do_something(kwd)
my_dict = {'hello':
SamFeltus wrote:
> Here's an interesting Podcast musing on the possible future of Python
> and computing, illustrated and commentated by SonomaSunshine...
>
> Enjoy...
>
> http://samfeltus.com/kudzu/Nanoprogramming_podcast.html
I work right across from the Nanosystems Institute, and now this! Yo
MonkeeSage wrote:
> Proposal:
>
> When an attribute lookup fails for an object, check the top-level
> (and local scope?) for a corresponding function or attribute and apply
> it as the called attribute if found, drop through to the exception
> otherwise. This is just syntactic sugar.
>
>
> Exa
> I am not sure if this kind of info is available internally to the
> interpreter (ordereddict is in C, so I would even prefer that). Has
> anyone done this or anything like it?
It's not available. See ceval.c:do_call; this fills the dictionary.
>From then on, information about the order of keywor
I am looking for a way to determine the order of keyword parameters
passed on to a class method.
In the source code the keyword parameters are ordered, an ordering
that is lost by putting them into a dictionary and then accessing them
by using **kw. If I had this order (either of the keyword+value
On Nov 18, 6:46 am, Abandoned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi..
> I want to show the pictures with mod python directly.
>
> def showimage(req):
> some process...
> open /var/www/a.jpg and print
>
> for example if i open:
> domain.com/a.py/showimage
> It must show me image directly (no redir
John Salerno wrote:
> Anyone know anything about this book? I've read a few intro Python books
> already, but I'm always interested in reading more to reinforce the
> language. No reviews on Amazon yet so I'm not sure if it's good or not.
>
> Thanks.
A cursory glance while standing in the book
OKB (not okblacke) wrote:
> Paul Rubin wrote:
>
>
>> "OKB (not okblacke)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> For years now Python has not supported variable-length
>>> lookbehinds.
>>>
>> I'm not sure what that is and the perl links you gave don't work,
>> but it
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