Commentary on Python 411 - Web 3.0 and Nanoprogramming

2007-11-17 Thread SamFeltus
Here's an interesting Podcast musing on the possible future of Python and computing, illustrated and commentated by SonomaSunshine... Enjoy... http://samfeltus.com/kudzu/Nanoprogramming_podcast.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

how can i return a image in mod python ?

2007-11-17 Thread Abandoned
Hi.. I want to show the pictures with mod python directly. def showimage(req): some process... open /var/www/a.jpg and print for example if i open: domain.com/a.py/showimage It must show me image directly (no redirect or html) How can i do it ? I'm sorry for my bad english. Kind Regards.

Book: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide

2007-11-17 Thread John Salerno
Anyone know anything about this book? I've read a few intro Python books already, but I'm always interested in reading more to reinforce the language. No reviews on Amazon yet so I'm not sure if it's good or not. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

sockets: why doesn't my connect() block?

2007-11-17 Thread 7stud
According to "Python in a Nutshell(2nd)", p. 523: connect: s.connect((host, port)) ... Blocks until the server accepts or rejects the connection attempt. However, my client program ends immediately after the call to connect()--even though my server program does not call accept(): #server-

Re: Mac os x 10.4.11: Error installing Python 2.5.1

2007-11-17 Thread James Stroud
David wrote: > On Nov 17, 8:36 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> David wrote: >>> On Nov 17, 7:27 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David wrote: > Running OS X 10.4.11 PPC. No Intel. > I downloaded: > http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.1/python-2.5.1-macosx

Re: Mac os x 10.4.11: Error installing Python 2.5.1

2007-11-17 Thread David
On Nov 17, 8:36 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David wrote: > > On Nov 17, 7:27 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> David wrote: > >>> Running OS X 10.4.11 PPC. No Intel. > >>> I downloaded: > >>>http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.1/python-2.5.1-macosx.dmg > >>> I star

Re: Mac os x 10.4.11: Error installing Python 2.5.1

2007-11-17 Thread James Stroud
David wrote: > On Nov 17, 7:27 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> David wrote: >>> Running OS X 10.4.11 PPC. No Intel. >>> I downloaded: >>> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.1/python-2.5.1-macosx.dmg >>> I started the install, accepted the license, selected easy install, >>> then up

Re: Mac os x 10.4.11: Error installing Python 2.5.1

2007-11-17 Thread David
On Nov 17, 7:27 pm, James Stroud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David wrote: > > Running OS X 10.4.11 PPC. No Intel. > > > I downloaded: > > >http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.1/python-2.5.1-macosx.dmg > > > I started the install, accepted the license, selected easy install, > > then upgrade, ente

A proposal for attribute lookup failures

2007-11-17 Thread MonkeeSage
Proposal: When an attribute lookup fails for an object, check the top-level (and local scope?) for a corresponding function or attribute and apply it as the called attribute if found, drop through to the exception otherwise. This is just syntactic sugar. Example: a = [1,2,3] a.len() #

Re: Environment Variables

2007-11-17 Thread James Stroud
Wang, Harry wrote: > Need some suggestions as to how to set environment variable in Windows XP. os.environ['SUX'] = 'windowsxp' > Got XML which has a timestamp in Eastern Standard time, but would like to > strip it out for comparison with expected result. Example? -- James Stroud UCLA-DOE In

Re: Auto locate Python's .so on Linux (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name)

2007-11-17 Thread James Stroud
robert wrote: > In a makefile I want to locate the .so for a dynamically linked Python > on Linux. (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name) > e.g. by running a small script with that Python. How to? > > Robert def findaso(aso): import os for apath in os.sys.path: if not apath.startswith(os

Re: Mac os x 10.4.11: Error installing Python 2.5.1

2007-11-17 Thread James Stroud
David wrote: > Running OS X 10.4.11 PPC. No Intel. > > I downloaded: > > http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.1/python-2.5.1-macosx.dmg > > I started the install, accepted the license, selected easy install, > then upgrade, entered my password for the mac, but the installation > process finishe

Mac os x 10.4.11: Error installing Python 2.5.1

2007-11-17 Thread David
All, Running OS X 10.4.11 PPC. No Intel. I downloaded: http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.1/python-2.5.1-macosx.dmg I started the install, accepted the license, selected easy install, then upgrade, entered my password for the mac, but the installation process finished with: There were error

Re: which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread John Salerno
Dave WB3DWE wrote: > Have given up Java. Want to switch to Python. But _which_ ? > There is ver : > 2.5 out now > 2.6 in beta , final expected Apr 2008 > 3.0 ? in alpha or beta > 3.0 final expected Sep 2008 ? > Will the real python please stand up. > Thanks, Dave WB3DW

SOAPpy port reuse

2007-11-17 Thread Maurice LING
Hi, I have a problem: 1. Assuming that my application is a SOAP server that uses SOAPpy, 2. I am given port 35021 for use. What I normally do (simply) is: functionlist = [] import SOAPpy server = SOAPpy.SOAPServer((, 35021)) for func in functionlist: server.registerFunction(func) server.serve_f

Re: Variable-width lookbehind

2007-11-17 Thread OKB (not okblacke)
Paul Rubin wrote: > "OKB (not okblacke)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> For years now Python has not supported variable-length >> lookbehinds. > > I'm not sure what that is and the perl links you gave don't work, > but it sounds evil. The links work fine for me. . .

Re: Getting file timestamp from url

2007-11-17 Thread Tim Roberts
"mhearne808[insert-at-sign-here]gmail[insert-dot-here]com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is is possible to get the timestamp of a file on a web server if it >has a URL? No, not in the general case. >For example, let's say that I want to know when the following file was >created: > >http://www.w3s

distutils problem: using wrong compiler and specs

2007-11-17 Thread Grant Edwards
I've got a system where I try to install extensions using /usr/local/bin/python setup.py install But, it fails when it tries to use a non-existant compiler path and specs file. I suspect it's trying to use the compieler that was used to build /usr/bin/python. How do I get it to use the compil

Re: Variable-width lookbehind

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Rubin
"OKB (not okblacke)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For years now Python has not supported variable-length lookbehinds. I'm not sure what that is and the perl links you gave don't work, but it sounds evil. Basically it sounds like an even uglier form of regexp backtracking than what we hav

Variable-width lookbehind

2007-11-17 Thread OKB (not okblacke)
For years now Python has not supported variable-length lookbehinds. I'm just curious whether there are any plans to change this in Python 3.0, or before, or after. It seems that Perl 6 will allow variable- width lookbehinds (see http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/apo/A05.html and htt

Re: Which uses less memory?

2007-11-17 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if this is as easy a question as I'd like it to be, but > here goes > > I'm working on an application that is very memory intensive, so we're > trying to reduce the memory footprint of classes wherever possible. I > have a need

Re: implement random selection in Python

2007-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:51:16 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am not guaranteeing this even works. I am seeing that there is some > collision among the numbers, but it will work for the most part. "Work for the most part" -- is that another way of saying "Apart from the bugs, this is bug-free

Anyone knows how to use xemacs with ipython or python on WinXP?

2007-11-17 Thread wang frank
Hi, I am struggling to make the ipython or python works in xemacs. I have been seraching on the internet for a solution for one day. I have put python-mode.el and ipython.el in the load-path and in the xemacs I type: M-x load library ipython. Then M-x py-shell. However, I could not get the ip

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:30:28 -0800, George Sakkis wrote: > On Nov 16, 5:03 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:28:59 +0100, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >> >> Question 1: >> >> >> Given that the user of the API can choose to override foo()

Re: implement random selection in Python

2007-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Knuth says to pick N distinct records from a collection where the probability is equal you should: first fill up N records by chosing the first seen. if less than N were in the collection, quit. otherwise, t = (the number of items looked at) or N to start. while your not at the end of the colle

Accessing wiki through python

2007-11-17 Thread MSK
Hi, is there a module for accessing and editing wikipages in an automated fashion? Thx M -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread Matthieu Brucher
> > > The gui is an issue. Does one TK or rely on some fall-back system of > > gnome/kde/x11/windows dialogue boxes (ending in abject failure by way of > > raw_input on the command line)? Or (perhaps) have it fetch a standard > > dialogue library which would fetch and install what is needed for fut

Re: which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Nov 17, 4:20 pm, Dave WB3DWE wrote: > Have given up Java. Want to switch to Python. But _which_ ? > There is ver : > 2.5 out now > 2.6 in beta , final expected Apr 2008 > 3.0 ? in alpha or beta > 3.0 final expected Sep 2008 ? > Will the real python please stand up. > T

Re: extension to idle to clear screen - but how to write to screen?

2007-11-17 Thread Tal Einat
On Nov 15, 10:20 pm, owl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and here I thought I was going to finally be able to change the world > AND contribute back to python with my amazing clear screen extension - > but I can't get it to work. ;( > > Copying from ZoomHeight.py and someone else's clever print sugges

Re: Excellent sci-fi novel featuring Python

2007-11-17 Thread Simon Brunning
On Nov 17, 2007 4:25 PM, Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Wade Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm about halfway through Charles Stross' excellent new novel, > > "Halting State". It's set in Edinburgh in the year 2018, and one of > > the main characters is a gam

Re: Excellent sci-fi novel featuring Python

2007-11-17 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Paul McGuire pisze: >> I'm about halfway through Charles Stross' excellent new novel, >> "Halting State". It's set in Edinburgh in the year 2018, and one of >> the main characters is a game programmer whose primary language is >> something called "Python 3000". > > I should hope that by 2018, Pyt

Re: Excellent sci-fi novel featuring Python

2007-11-17 Thread Stefan Behnel
Paul McGuire wrote: > On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Wade Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm about halfway through Charles Stross' excellent new novel, >> "Halting State". It's set in Edinburgh in the year 2018, and one of >> the main characters is a game programmer whose primary language is >> someth

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
> Interesting idea, although it's not something I'd want included and > turned on by default. Should certainly be possible, though, with a > little __import__ magic. Well, since we're shooting the sh*t :), I tried in my one and only released app (Fonty Python) to wrap the imports in try clauses an

write iso 9660 with python

2007-11-17 Thread bryan rasmussen
Hi, I need to read in a system of files and write them to an iso 9660, any libraries suited to this task that are up to date? Python 2.4 or 2.5 should be assumed. Cheers, Bryan Rasmussen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
> plans are afoot You know, I've always wanted ask; if plans are afoot, what are hands? :D Sorry, it's late. /d -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Equivalent of TCL's "subst" ?

2007-11-17 Thread gamename
> >>> foobar = "HI!" > >>> x = 'foo' > >>> y = 'bar' > >>> print eval(x+y) > HI! Great! Thanks. -T -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread Simon Brunning
On Nov 17, 2007 6:20 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have given up Java. Want to switch to Python. Welcome! > But _which_ ? > There is ver : > 2.5 out now > 2.6 in beta , final expected Apr 2008 You should go for 2.5.1 unless you have a reason to stick to an older version. (Such re

Re: which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread Scott SA
On 11/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Have given up Java. Want to switch to Python. But _which_ ? >There is ver : > 2.5 out now > 2.6 in beta , final expected Apr 2008 > 3.0 ? in alpha or beta > 3.0 final expected Sep 2008 ? >Will the real python please s

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread scripteaze
On Nov 17, 12:19 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 17, 10:00�am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 2007-11-17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Nov 16, 3:10?pm, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On Nov 16, 8:29 pm, [EMAIL PROT

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Nov 17, 8:25 am, Donn Ingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dunno about your dog :) but Python libs are not too demanding. From a > Gnu/Linux pov with package managers things are quite simple. > > My wish is to find a way to make that even easier because the packaged > modules are not always up t

Re: which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread Paul McGuire
On Nov 17, 12:20 pm, Dave WB3DWE wrote: > Have given up Java. Want to switch to Python. But _which_ ? > There is ver : > 2.5 out now > 2.6 in beta , final expected Apr 2008 > 3.0 ? in alpha or beta > 3.0 final expected Sep 2008 ? This is not for us to decide, but rather fo

which Python ? asks beginner

2007-11-17 Thread Dave
Have given up Java. Want to switch to Python. But _which_ ? There is ver : 2.5 out now 2.6 in beta , final expected Apr 2008 3.0 ? in alpha or beta 3.0 final expected Sep 2008 ? Will the real python please stand up. Thanks, Dave WB3DWE [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Nov 17, 10:00�am, Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-11-17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:10?pm, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Nov 16, 8:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > I still don't get it and I've been haunting this gr

Troubleshooting garbage collection issues

2007-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi folks - wondering if anyone has any pointers on troubleshooting garbage collection. My colleagues and I are running into an interesting problem: Intermittently, we get into a situation where the garbage collection code is running in an infinite loop. The data structures within the garbage col

Re: python debugging...

2007-11-17 Thread Paul Rubin
Donn Ingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know if this will help you, but if you can, install "Eric". It's an > IDE that I often use and you can do point and click debugging with > breakpoints and nice displays of all vars and whatnot as you go. Much > easier than fiddling with the debugger

Re: Fwd: Sorting Countries by Region

2007-11-17 Thread J. Clifford Dyer
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 03:34 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > #This seems to not work today and I don't know why > #for country in countries_list: > #if country not in REGIONS_COUNTRIES['European Union'] or not in > REGIONS_COUNTRIES['North America']: > #print "%s is not in the expecte

Re: python debugging...

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
I don't know if this will help you, but if you can, install "Eric". It's an IDE that I often use and you can do point and click debugging with breakpoints and nice displays of all vars and whatnot as you go. Much easier than fiddling with the debugger manually. /d -- http://mail.python.org/mail

Re: how to know if folder contents have changed

2007-11-17 Thread Martin Marcher
I just found this for win32 which seems to be the same as FAM provides: http://tgolden.sc.sabren.com/python/win32_how_do_i/watch_directory_for_changes.html So it's not about FAM as a definitive product to be used but more like something nearer to the OS that is there anyway and will tell you abou

Re: how to know if folder contents have changed

2007-11-17 Thread Martin Marcher
I think that without further information from the OP about the requirements all we can do is guessing. So both of our solutions are just theory after all (just my personal opinion) 2007/11/14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Nov 12, 11:27 am, "Martin Marcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Excellent sci-fi novel featuring Python

2007-11-17 Thread Paul McGuire
On Nov 17, 9:37 am, Wade Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm about halfway through Charles Stross' excellent new novel, > "Halting State". It's set in Edinburgh in the year 2018, and one of > the main characters is a game programmer whose primary language is > something called "Python 3000".

python debugging...

2007-11-17 Thread bruce
Hi... new to python, trying to debug an app i have : >>> lib]# cat foo #!/usr/bin/python2.4 -OO # -*- coding: ascii -*- # vim:ts=4:sw=4:softtabstop=0:smarttab # import sys import slstorageserver slstorageserver.storaged(sys.argv) == i do a >>

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-11-17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 16, 3:10?pm, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Nov 16, 8:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > I still don't get it and I've been haunting this group for months... >> >> > Mike >> >> Go on then ?... >> >> What ? >> >> The pu

Re: Python Design Patterns - composition vs. inheritance

2007-11-17 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-11-17, Odalrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But that breaks expectations: a user doesn't expect >> set_width() to affect the height. > > I can't speak for everyone but I certainly expect setting the > width of a Square to change it's height. In fact, that would > probably be the reason I

Re: Excellent sci-fi novel featuring Python

2007-11-17 Thread Wade Leftwich
On Nov 17, 10:37 am, Wade Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm about halfway through Charles Stross' excellent new novel, > "Halting State". It's set in Edinburgh in the year 2018, and one of > the main characters is a game programmer whose primary language is > something called "Python 3000".

Excellent sci-fi novel featuring Python

2007-11-17 Thread Wade Leftwich
I'm about halfway through Charles Stross' excellent new novel, "Halting State". It's set in Edinburgh in the year 2018, and one of the main characters is a game programmer whose primary language is something called "Python 3000". The cover features blurbs from William Gibson, Vernor Vinge, John Ca

Re: implement random selection in Python

2007-11-17 Thread J. Clifford Dyer
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 16:47 -0800, Bruza wrote: I think I need to explain on the probability part: the "prob" is a > relative likelihood that the object will be included in the output > list. So, in my example input of > > items = [('Mary',30), ('John', 10), ('Tom', 45), ('Jane', 15)] > > So, f

Re: class='something' as kwarg

2007-11-17 Thread George Sakkis
On Nov 17, 3:45 am, "Vladimir Rusinov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello! > > I'm using beautiful soup html parser, and I need to get all ' class=g>...' tags. > It can be done by: > > import BeautifulSoup as BSoup > > ... > > soup = BSoup(page) > for div in soup.findAll('div', class='g'): > >

python application dll

2007-11-17 Thread dongarbage
Hi, Is there a way to create a .dll from a python program which includes the python runtime? I'm building a Windows application (C# VisualStudio2005) and I'd like to utilize some of the functionality available in a Python module. For my users who install my Windows application, I'd prefer that th

Re: OT: good code snippet manager

2007-11-17 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Wensui Liu wrote: > Might anyone recommend a good code snippet manager to me? > Thank you so much! > What does "good" mean in that sense? If you want an editor-independent solution, plain-textfiles never fail (by definition, sort of). If your text editor does not support them, but you want inlin

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
I dunno about your dog :) but Python libs are not too demanding. From a Gnu/Linux pov with package managers things are quite simple. My wish is to find a way to make that even easier because the packaged modules are not always up to date. If the Cheese Shop could supply downloads of modules and

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Nov 17, 7:46 am, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This person is a long-term Linux/C/Python > programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and > library models for C# have proved to be less > problematic than Python. If his students have problems installing Python on Windows, show him

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread Tim Chase
> programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and > library models for C# have proved to be less > problematic than Python. So both his courses (intro, > data structs, algorithms) are taught in C#. A little anecdotal comparison from some of my experience with two web apps deployed at my

Re: class='something' as kwarg

2007-11-17 Thread Marc Christiansen
Vladimir Rusinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm using beautiful soup html parser, and I need to get all ' class=g>...' tags. > It can be done by: > > import BeautifulSoup as BSoup from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup as BSoup > > ... > > soup = BSoup(page) > for div in soup.findAll('div',

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread Paddy
On Nov 17, 1:46 pm, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Had a unsettling conversation with a CS instructor that > teaches at local high schools and the community > college. This person is a long-term Linux/C/Python > programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and > library models for C# hav

Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-17 Thread Brian
Had a unsettling conversation with a CS instructor that teaches at local high schools and the community college. This person is a long-term Linux/C/Python programmer, but he claims that the install, config, and library models for C# have proved to be less problematic than Python. So both his c

Re: class='something' as kwarg

2007-11-17 Thread Peter Otten
Vladimir Rusinov wrote: > I'm using beautiful soup html parser, and I need to get all ' class=g>...' tags. > It can be done by: > > import BeautifulSoup as BSoup > > ... > > soup = BSoup(page) > for div in soup.findAll('div', class='g'): > > > But how can I use `class` as kwarg name? # h

Re: class='something' as kwarg

2007-11-17 Thread GuillaumeC
> But how can I use `class` as kwarg name? soup.findAll('div', **{'class':'g'}) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

class='something' as kwarg

2007-11-17 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
Hello! I'm using beautiful soup html parser, and I need to get all '...' tags. It can be done by: import BeautifulSoup as BSoup ... soup = BSoup(page) for div in soup.findAll('div', class='g'): But how can I use `class` as kwarg name? -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения

Re: Populating a dictionary, fast [SOLVED SOLVED]

2007-11-17 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
"Michael Bacarella" wrote: > I am so sorry to have ruined the decorum. Oh dear! I confidently predict that this thread will now degenerate to include such things as dignitas and gravitas. - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Getting name of control under mouse in Windows?

2007-11-17 Thread Shane Clark
Hi, I am trying to get my python app to output the name of the control under the mouse each time it is clicked. Currently, I am trying to do this with a combination of pyhook and pyAA, but pyAA gives me "pyAA.Error: -2147417843" for almost any control in Microsoft Office apps, for example. If

Environment Variables

2007-11-17 Thread Wang, Harry
Need some suggestions as to how to set environment variable in Windows XP. Got XML which has a timestamp in Eastern Standard time, but would like to strip it out for comparison with expected result. Harry C. Wang Automated Tester AOL Mobile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-l

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread michael poeltl
On Saturday 17 November 2007 01:32:52 pm Cope wrote: > On Nov 17, 5:00 pm, "Amit Khemka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/17/07, Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In our place we eat pythons for curry. Its delicious. > > > And how about your python? > > > > > > Cope > > > > Not much of the

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread Cope
On Nov 17, 5:00 pm, "Amit Khemka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/17/07, Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > In our place we eat pythons for curry. Its delicious. > > And how about your python? > > > Cope > > Not much of the difference here, it is just a bit more flexible. My > python goes

Auto locate Python's .so on Linux (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name)

2007-11-17 Thread robert
In a makefile I want to locate the .so for a dynamically linked Python on Linux. (for cx_Freeze's --shared-lib-name) e.g. by running a small script with that Python. How to? Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

how can i return a image in mod python ?

2007-11-17 Thread Abandoned
Hi.. I want to show the pictures with mod python directly. ( it support cache and image headers) def showimage(req): some process... open /var/www/a.jpg and print How can i do it ? I'm sorry for my bad english. Kind Regards -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread Amit Khemka
On 11/17/07, Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In our place we eat pythons for curry. Its delicious. > And how about your python? > > Cope Not much of the difference here, it is just a bit more flexible. My python goes and brings me whatever I wish to eat. Cheers, -- -- Amit Khemka -- http://

Re: Fwd: Sorting Countries by Region

2007-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:34:43 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > for i, country in countries_list: > if country in REGIONS_COUNTRIES['European Union']: > matrix.write(i+2, 1, country) > but I got "ValueError: too many values to unpack" Remove the i, and try again... -- Gabriel

Re: What is python?????

2007-11-17 Thread Cope
On Nov 17, 12:14 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 16, 3:10�pm, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 16, 8:29 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I still don't get it and I've been haunting this group for months... > > > > Mike > > > Go on then �... > > > What ? >

Re: Interfaces.

2007-11-17 Thread Duncan Booth
Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Benjamin wrote: >> Python is has duck typing. "If it quacks like a duke, it's duck." > > How do dukes quack, exactly? :) > > Regards, > They quack with a North-eastern Scottish accent of course. The following excerpt from "Scots: Practical Appr

Re: Fwd: Sorting Countries by Region

2007-11-17 Thread patrick . waldo
This is how I solved it last night in my inefficient sort of way and after re-reading some of my Python books on dictionaries. So far this gets the job done. However, I'd like to test if there are any countries in the excel input that are not represented, ie the input is all the information I hav

Re: Python Design Patterns - composition vs. inheritance

2007-11-17 Thread Matthieu Brucher
> > > >Well, you would if you override the two set_* methods to set both > > > height and width to the same value > > > > But that breaks expectations: a user doesn't expect set_width() to > affect > > the height. > > I can't speak for everyone but I certainly expect setting the width of > a S

Re: Interfaces.

2007-11-17 Thread James Stroud
Chris M wrote: > There's something to be said > about users with signatures longer than their messages... Just be happy I didn't spell out UCLA and DOE. James -- James Stroud UCLA-DOE Institute of Genomics and Proteomics Box 951570 Los Angeles, CA 90095 http://www.jamesstroud.com -- http://ma

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:19:07 +0200, Donn Ingle wrote: >> BTW, it is a convention for method names to be lower case, and classes >> to be Title case. Seeing something like obj.Draw, most(?) Python >> developers will expect that the Draw attribute of obj is itself a >> class: > Thanks, I'm pretty da

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
Thanks, good tips all-round. I have it working okay at the moment with all the suggestions. It may break in future, but that's another day :) /d -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
> *not* being called by the user but *by* my API (in a timeout loop). > > You don't know that. How can you possibly guarantee that the user won't > find some other use for the draw() method Well, as per your good examples, I would answer that as the parameters passed to draw() grow in number, so

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Peter Otten
Donn Ingle wrote: >> I am curious as to why you want to go through such contortions.  What >> do you gain. > for obj in list: > if obj has a foo() method: > a = something > b = figureitout ( ) > object.foo ( a, b ) > > I am accepting objects of any class on a stack. Depending on their na

Re: Interfaces.

2007-11-17 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would argue that interfaces/(similar feature) are necessary in > any modern language I wouldn't, but have a look at the Zope interfaces module. It seems to work similar to Java's interfaces. Regards, Björn -- BOFH excuse #104: backup tape overwritten with copy of

Re: Interfaces.

2007-11-17 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Benjamin wrote: > Python is has duck typing. "If it quacks like a duke, it's duck." How do dukes quack, exactly? :) Regards, Björn -- BOFH excuse #290: The CPU has shifted, and become decentralized. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: newbie Q: sequence membership

2007-11-17 Thread John Machin
On Nov 17, 6:02 pm, saccade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> a, b = [], [] > >>> a.append(b) > >>> b.append(a) > >>> b in a > True > >>> a in a > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp > > >>> a is a[0] > False > >>> a =

Re: Python Design Patterns - composition vs. inheritance

2007-11-17 Thread Odalrick
On 16 Nov, 16:35, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:25:16 -0800, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:57:57 -0800 (PST), Carl Banks > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > > >> A source of confusion with "is a" is that it do

Re: Getting file timestamp from url

2007-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:34:13 -0300, mhearne808[insert-at-sign-here]gmail[insert-dot-here]com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Is is possible to get the timestamp of a file on a web server if it > has a URL? > > For example, let's say that I want to know when the following file was > created: >

Re: newbie Q: sequence membership

2007-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:02:12 -0300, saccade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: a, b = [], [] a.append(b) b.append(a) b in a > True a in a > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp a is a[0] >

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:47:18 +0200, Donn Ingle wrote: >>> While technically possible (using inspect.getargspec), trying to make >>> your code idiot-proof is a lost fight and a pure waste of time. > >> Worse: it's actually counter-productive! The whole idea of being able >> to subclass a class me

Re: Resolving declaring class of a method at runtime

2007-11-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:08:48 +0200, Janne Härkönen wrote: > I am sorry to have wasted your precious time in such oafish manner. And so you should be, and as soon as I can track down your address I'll be sending you the bill. *wink* -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:56:22 -0300, Donn Ingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > for obj in list: > if 'foo' in obj.__class__.__dict__: > etc. > > Although I am concerned that it's a loop ('in') and so may be slower than > some other way to detect foo(). 'in' for dictionaries is fast and runs

Re: overriding methods - two questions

2007-11-17 Thread Donn Ingle
> This is strictly a documentation matter, in my mind. Python does not > offer any means to enforce the calling sequence of an "override method". Yes, I hear you. > You might be able to wrap YOUR calling code with a try/except block > to trap errors if the callback doesn't like the "documented AP