Re: setuptools without unexpected downloads

On Sep 27, 11:42 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 26, 2:09 am, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > behaviour with a specific invocation of 'setup.py'. But how can I > > disallow this from within the 'setup.py' program, so my users don't > > have to be aware of this unex

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

Michele Simionato wrote: > I wait with > impatience the time when Web programming will become a solved > problem with a standard built-in solution that works. That will probably come from Microsoft. At least for all-Microsoft environments. They're the only player who controls enough of the p

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >import friends >import sex > >try: > sex.have() >except ErrectionError, PrematureError: > pass >finally: > sex.brag(friends) Well, if "ErrectionError" ever becomes a real exception, I certainly get a boatload of email every day from

Re: tinyp2p - trying to get it to work

Marc Christiansen pisze: >> Can anybody help me to solve this? Please. I did browse google but found >> nothing. > > I had a (not so quick) look. The code proves its point (i.e. writing a > very small p2p application is possible), but it is horrible. With only > one server, the code is broken; ma

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Don't both "man" and those words for measurement come ultimately from > words for "hand" (similarly to words like "manual", as in labor)? Our > clever hands with their opposable thumbs being considered a defining > characteristic. And our tool use thus derived. Handspans

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

On Oct 7, 9:07 pm, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps our word "man" (manas) still expresses something of precisely > this feeling of self-satisfaction: man designated himself as the > creature that measures values, evaluates and measures, as the "valuating > animal as such".[1] Don'

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

On Oct 7, 6:14 pm, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 7, 12:24 pm, Michele Simionato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Here we disagree: I think that a programmer should know what he > > is using. > > My point was that they should not *need* to know. Too much information > can be de

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

On Oct 7, 7:58 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > If you REALLY pine for Pascal's records, you might choose to inherit > from ctypes.Structure, which has the additional "advantages" of > specifying a C type for each field and (a real advantage;-) creating an > appropriate __init__ metho

Re: Don't use __slots__ (was Re: Problem of Readability of Python)

On Oct 8, 12:27 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > > Aaaugh! Don't use __slots__! +1 QOTW ;) Michele Simionato -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Don't use __slots__ (was Re: Problem of Readability of Python)

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >You can use __slots__ [...] Aaaugh! Don't use __slots__! Seriously, __slots__ are for wizards writing applications with huuuge numbers of object instances (like, millions of instances). For an extended thread about t

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

On Oct 7, 11:28 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:55:29 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: > >> What should I do when my objects need to perform some special > >> processing when they are freed, if I shouldn't use __del__? > > > The solid, reliable way is: > > > from

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Alex Martelli wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> class Record(object): >> __slots__ = ["x", "y", "z"] >> >> has a couple of major advantages over: >> >> class Record(object): >> pass >> >> aside from the micro-optimization that classes using __slots__ are faster >> and s

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:55:29 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: >> What should I do when my objects need to perform some special >> processing when they are freed, if I shouldn't use __del__? > > The solid, reliable way is: > > from __future__ import with_statement > > and use module contextlib from

were group "Python 2.4" bugs ported over to the new bug tracker?

This bug about a urllib2 urlopen memory leak is still present but I don't see it in the new bug tracker anywhere: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105470&aid=1208304&group_id=5470 If this one is missing, presumably there are others? -gps -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

a good website for softwares,movies and music etc.

www.space666.com support -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: tinyp2p - trying to get it to work

Fantus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > I am doing a small research and I found this: > > http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/tinyp2p.html [...] > Now when I try to run a client using following command: > > > python tinyp2p.py haslo client http://10.10.10.1:2233 koniki > > it gives me some s

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

Roedy Green wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:04 -0500, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : > >> "free as in beer". > > but does not "free beer" nearly always come with a catch or implied > obligation? I had been trying to find a good Nietzs

Re: Problem using subprocess.Popen on windows

On 10/7/07, jorma kala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from subprocess import * > > p1 = Popen(["dir"], stdout=PIPE) > output = p1.communicate()[0] > > > But I get a WindowsError : [Error 2] File Not Found Tim answered your actual question, but why are you doing this in the first place? The Py

Re: supplying password to subprocess.call('rsync ...'), os.system('rsync ...')

On 05 Oct 2007 16:23:50 GMT, Stargaming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:37:05 -0700, timw.google wrote: > >> I can't ssh w/o supplying a password. That's the way the security is > >> set up here. > >> > >> How do I use python to do this, or do I just have to write a zsh > >> scr

Re: Cross platform way of finding number of processors on a machine?

On 10/6/07, Lawrence Oluyede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a way to find the number of processors on a machine (on linux/ > > windows/macos/cygwin) using python code (using the same code/cross > > platform code)? > > >From processing

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:24:14 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: > > > And yes, you CAN save about 1/3 of those 85 nanoseconds by having > > '__slots__=["zop"]' in your class A(object)... but that's the kind of > > thing one normally does only to tiny parts of

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For example, a dog with no owner, wandering freely (adverb), would not be > called a free dog (adjective), to mean possessing freedom. Yes it would. City council regulations would commonly contain phrases such as "dogs are not allowed to

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > As long as '/python' comes in the list before any other directory that > > might interfere (by dint of having a Test.py or Test/__init__.py), and > > in particular in the non-pathological case where there are no such > > possible interferences, my ass

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:24:14 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote: > And yes, you CAN save about 1/3 of those 85 nanoseconds by having > '__slots__=["zop"]' in your class A(object)... but that's the kind of > thing one normally does only to tiny parts of one's program that have > been identified by profilin

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

On 8/10/2007 4:14 AM, Steven Bethard wrote: > Licheng Fang wrote: >> Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for >> a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C >> ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with >> heterogeneous lists

Re: ANN: Pyrex 0.9.6

Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Colin J. Williams schrieb: >> Greg Ewing wrote: >>> Pyrex 0.9.6 is now available: >>> >>>http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~greg/python/Pyrex/ >>> >>> There is a *lot* of new stuff in this version, too much >>> to fit into this announcement. Read all about it here: >>>

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Alex Martelli wrote: > Mathias Panzenboeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: >>> ``del b`` just deletes the name `b`. It does not delete the object. >>> There's still the name `_` bound to it in the interactive interpreter. >>> `_` stays bound to the last non-`None`

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

On Oct 7, 12:24 pm, Michele Simionato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here we disagree: I think that a programmer should know what he > is using. My point was that they should not *need* to know. Too much information can be detrimental. > > Where is the session data stored: in memory, files, databa

finding out the call (and not only the caller)

Hi, Today I've been thinking a bit about the "python internals". Inspired by this recipe: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/66062 I found out a little problem which haven't been able to solve. In short, is there a way to find out how a given name lookup was started? It is not

tinyp2p - trying to get it to work

Hello I am doing a small research and I found this: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/tinyp2p.html I tried to get it to work. So far I managed to run it as a server using a command: > python tinyp2p.py haslo server 10.10.10.1 2233 It starts listening on a given port so I assume it works fine

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Licheng Fang wrote: > Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for > a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C > ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with > heterogeneous lists/tuples at hand, I tend to stuff many things into

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

On 8/10/2007 1:57 AM, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: > Kay Schluehr schrieb: >> You can see what "and" and "or" are actually doing: >> >> import dis >> dis.dis(lambda: x or y and z) >> >> 1 0 LOAD_GLOBAL 0 (x) >> 3 JUMP_IF_TRUE11 (to 17) >>

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

On Oct 7, 1:07 pm, Licheng Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for > a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C > ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with > heterogeneous lists/tuples at

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 10:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > MarkyMarc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >... > > > > > > > And sys.path is /python/Test/bpack > > > > sys.path must be a LIST. Are you saying you set yours to NOT be a list, > > > but, e.g., a STRING?! (It's hard to tell, as you s

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > > > > And sys.path is /python/Test/bpack > > > > sys.path must be a LIST. Are you saying you set yours to NOT be a list, > > but, e.g., a STRING?! (It's hard to tell, as you show no quotes there). ... > > > I also tried to put /python/ and /pyth

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Licheng Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Python Tutorial says an empty class can be used to do this. But if > namespaces are implemented as dicts, wouldn't it incur much overhead > if one defines empty classes as such for some very frequently used > data structures of the program? Just mea

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 10:05 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > MarkyMarc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >... > > > > > And sys.path is /python/Test/bpack > > sys.path must be a LIST. Are you saying you set yours to NOT be a list, > but, e.g., a STRING?! (It's hard to tell, as you show no quote

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Use dicts, not lists or tuples: > > a = dict(name='yadda', val=42) > print a['name'] > print a['val'] I guess you will then need a list or tuple to store the dicts? I might have made it with a list of class instances: class a: def __init__(s

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > > > And sys.path is /python/Test/bpack sys.path must be a LIST. Are you saying you set yours to NOT be a list, but, e.g., a STRING?! (It's hard to tell, as you show no quotes there). > > The 'Test' package is *not* in your sys.path. > > I can say

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Mathias Panzenboeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > > ``del b`` just deletes the name `b`. It does not delete the object. > > There's still the name `_` bound to it in the interactive interpreter. > > `_` stays bound to the last non-`None` result in the interpreter.

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Mathias Panzenboeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > I only inserted them so I can see if the objects are really freed. How can > I see that without a __del__ method? You can use weakref.ref instances with finalizer functions - see the long post I just made on this thread for a reasonably rich

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Without __del__, what should I have done to test that my code was > deleting objects and not leaking memory? See module gc in the Python standard library. > What should I do when my objects need to perform some special processing > when they a

Re: Need help to find origin of a memory leakage

Finaly catch the memory leak I was fighting with Was a tricky one, but the solution was simple: I had to include the contents of the notebook tab in a frame. Otherwise the memory is not released when you remove the tab. Any idea why is it like that??? Could it be kind of pygtk bug? I attach

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 8:00 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > > > And sys.path is /python/Test/bpack > > And you do wonder why you can't import ? Please reread with attention > the first and third points listed above (following the 'But anyway'). > The 'Test' package is *not* in your sys.path. I can say yes

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

George Sakkis wrote: > On Oct 7, 2:14 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Licheng Fang wrote: >>> Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for >>> a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C >>> ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of th

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

On Oct 7, 2:14 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Licheng Fang wrote: > > Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for > > a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C > > ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with >

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Licheng Fang wrote: > struct nameval { > char * name; >int val; > } a; > > a.name = ... > a.val = ... > > becomes cryptic > > a[0] = ... > a[1] = ... ?! (1) a = {} a["name"] = ... a["val"] = ... (2) NAME = 0 VAL = 1 a=[] a[NAME] = ... a[VAL] = ... > Python Tutorial says an empty cla

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Licheng Fang a écrit : > Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for > a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C > ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with > heterogeneous lists/tuples at hand, I tend to stuff many things in

Re: Problem of Readability of Python

Licheng Fang wrote: > Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for > a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C > ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with > heterogeneous lists/tuples at hand, I tend to stuff many things into

Problem of Readability of Python

Python is supposed to be readable, but after programming in Python for a while I find my Python programs can be more obfuscated than their C/C ++ counterparts sometimes. Part of the reason is that with heterogeneous lists/tuples at hand, I tend to stuff many things into the list and *assume* a stru

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc a écrit : > On Oct 7, 6:04 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers > But how do I get this to work? >> You failed to specify how your files are organized, and what is "not >> working". >> >> But anyway, if >> - atest.py is in /Test/apack, >> - both Test and apack have a __init__.py >> - is in the sys.pa

Re: supplying password to subprocess.call('rsync ...'), os.system('rsync ...')

timw.google wrote: > Hi > > I want to write a python script that runs rsync on a given directory > and host. I build the command line string, but when I try to run > subprocess.call(cmd), or p=subprocess.Popen(cmd, shell=True),or > os.system(cmd), I get prompted for my login password. I expected t

Re: Putting a line from a text file into a variable, then moving to next line

On 07/10/2007, Tim Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not really sure how readline() works. Is there a way to iterate > > through a file with multiple lines and then putting each line in a > > variable in a loop? > > You can use readlines() to get the whole line (including the > newline): > >

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 17:54 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >> import friends >> import sex >> >> try: >> sex.have() >> except ErrectionError, PrematureError: >> pass >> finally: >> sex.brag(friends) > > Good! But. > I think a ki

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

On Oct 7, 1:14 pm, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:38:23 +, Michele Simionato wrote: > > On Oct 7, 12:26 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Drop all those `__del__()` methods as they prevent the garbage > >> coll

Re: Pil image module, "mode" bug..

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:02:09 -0700, Abandoned wrote: > On Oct 7, 4:47 pm, Michal Bozon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:03:06 -0700, Abandoned wrote: >> > Hi.. >> > I find the picture color with: >> > im=Image.open("/%s" %name) >> > color=im.mode #p=black & beyaz rgb=color L=

Re: How to create a file on users XP desktop

Tim Chase wrote: >> You are assuming the system is not localized, that won't work if you >> distribute your applications internationally. In my system it is not >> "Desktop", it is "Escritorio", and I guess it will vary with every >> locale. Does someone know a way to find out what name does the de

Re: How to create a file on users XP desktop

Tim Chase wrote: >> You are assuming the system is not localized, that won't work if you >> distribute your applications internationally. In my system it is not >> "Desktop", it is "Escritorio", and I guess it will vary with every >> locale. Does someone know a way to find out what name does the de

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Mathias Panzenboeck wrote: > Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: >> ``del b`` just deletes the name `b`. It does not delete the object. >> There's still the name `_` bound to it in the interactive interpreter. >> `_` stays bound to the last non-`None` result in the interpreter. > > Actually I have

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:38:23 +, Michele Simionato wrote: > On Oct 7, 12:26 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Drop all those `__del__()` methods as they prevent the garbage >> collector from collecting "cycles". > > I fully agree and I will add that __del__ methods

Re: newbie swig c++ to python

Now it works, the problem was in the project configuration of the example, that put the directory in Addictional Dependencies while it must be in Addictional Library Directories bye w n 7 Ott, 18:35, whatazor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I must wrap some c++ code in python with swig. I

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > ``del b`` just deletes the name `b`. It does not delete the object. > There's still the name `_` bound to it in the interactive interpreter. > `_` stays bound to the last non-`None` result in the interpreter. > Actually I have the opposite problem. The referen

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:51:33 +0200, Mathias Panzenboeck wrote: > >> import weakref >> >> class Wrapper(object): >> def __init__(self,x): >> self.x = weakref.ref(x) >> >> def __call__(self,*args,**kwargs): >> x = self.x() >>

Re: How to create a file on users XP desktop

> You are assuming the system is not localized, that won't work if you > distribute your applications internationally. In my system it is not > "Desktop", it is "Escritorio", and I guess it will vary with every > locale. Does someone know a way to find out what name does the desktop > have? I beli

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

On Oct 7, 12:26 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Drop all those `__del__()` methods as they prevent the garbage collector > from collecting "cycles". I fully agree and I will add that __del__ methods are always a bad idea. Also notice that recently Raymond Hetting said in

newbie swig c++ to python

Hi all, I must wrap some c++ code in python with swig. I try the swig examples for VC++ , but when I build the project it gives me that error: example fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'C:\Programmi \Python25\libs.obj' Any idea? thank you w -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 17:54 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Kay Schluehr wrote: > > On Oct 7, 8:05 am, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dick Moores > > > > Despite my doubts that Ajax and .NET will be programming languages i

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

Alan Gauld wrote: > > "Dick Moores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> >> > > Interesting, but I'm not sure what the criteria for "top" is. > Is it a measure of power, popularity, usage? > > Scary that HTML/CSS should be so high though given its not a pro

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:51:33 +0200, Mathias Panzenboeck wrote: > import weakref > > class Wrapper(object): > def __init__(self,x): > self.x = weakref.ref(x) > > def __call__(self,*args,**kwargs): > x = self.x() > if x is None: >

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

On Oct 7, 11:31 am, Istvan Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMO this is not as much a framework comparison rather than an > evaluation of the individual components that make up Pylons. More in general let's say that I am interested in the evaluation of WSGI-compatible components. > The framewo

Re: How to create a file on users XP desktop

On Oct 7, 1:24 am, Scott David Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > goldtech wrote: > > ... I want the new file's location to be on the user's desktop in > > a Windows XP environment > > How about: > import os.path > handle = open(os.path.expanduser(r'~\DeskTop\somefile.txt'), 'w') >

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 6:04 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > MarkyMarc a écrit : > (snip) > > > It was simply to make a point. But then lets say the to files looks > > like this: > > > *** > > atest.py: > > > def printA(): > > print "This is Atest from Apack" > > **

Re: tkinter question

Kevin Walzer wrote: > Well, I guess it depends on your viewpoint. I find "pack" flexible > because it allows me to think in terms of top, bottom, right, and left > in terms of arranging UI elements--it's an elegant way to do it in my > view. I tend to use "grid" if I have, say, a window with se

Re: tkinter question

Hendrik van Rooyen wrote: > "Kevin Walzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I find "pack" to be more flexible than "grid," so I prefer it for >> complex layouts. "grid" is better for simple layouts. > > *does a double take* are you serious? - my experience is that > pack is only good for simple

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

On Oct 7, 11:00?am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Oct 7, 11:54 am, Wildemar Wildenburger > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kay Schluehr wrote: > > > On Oct 7, 8:05 am, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> Dick Moores > > > >

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc a écrit : (snip) > It was simply to make a point. But then lets say the to files looks > like this: > > *** > atest.py: > > def printA(): > print "This is Atest from Apack" > *** > btest.py: > from Test.apack import atest

Re: Pil image module, "mode" bug..

On Oct 7, 4:47 pm, Michal Bozon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:03:06 -0700, Abandoned wrote: > > Hi.. > > I find the picture color with: > > im=Image.open("/%s" %name) > > color=im.mode #p=black & beyaz rgb=color L=grey > > > This usually work true but in these pictures: > >h

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

On Oct 7, 11:54 am, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kay Schluehr wrote: > > On Oct 7, 8:05 am, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> Dick Moores > > > Despite my doubts that Ajax and .NET will be programming languages in

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 5:49 pm, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MarkyMarc wrote: > > *** > > atest.py: > > > def printA(): > > print "This is Atest from Apack" > > *** > > btest.py: > > from Test.apack import atest > > > def pri

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

Kay Schluehr schrieb: > On Oct 7, 4:48 pm, Dekker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7 Okt., 16:19, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> cybersource.com.au> wrote: >>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:52:15 +, Dekker wrote: Is it possible to override 'and' and/or 'or'? >>> Not without hacking the

Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> While I agree that the word "free" implies "free of monetary cost" to >> many people societies, that is by no means set in stone (talk to native >> americans, blacks, jews, palestinians,

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

Kay Schluehr wrote: > On Oct 7, 8:05 am, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Dick Moores > > Despite my doubts that Ajax and .NET will be programming languages in > 2013 a more interesting question is: what could push Python forward > s.t.

Re: ANN: Pyrex 0.9.6

Colin J. Williams schrieb: > Greg Ewing wrote: >> Pyrex 0.9.6 is now available: >> >>http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~greg/python/Pyrex/ >> >> There is a *lot* of new stuff in this version, too much >> to fit into this announcement. Read all about it here: >> >> >> http://www.cosc.canterbu

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc wrote: > *** > atest.py: > > def printA(): > print "This is Atest from Apack" > *** > btest.py: > from Test.apack import atest > > def printB(): > print "This is Btest from Bpack" > > def printatest(): > p

Re: Top Programming Languages of 2013

On Oct 7, 8:05 am, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dick Moores Despite my doubts that Ajax and .NET will be programming languages in 2013 a more interesting question is: what could push Python forward s.t. it eats such a large piece of th

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:24:35 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > >> Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >>> [whate everyone else wrote :(] >>> >>> /W >> Dangit! 4th of 4. >> Gotta type quicker. > > > That's okay, in two weeks time there will be 139 messages in this thread,

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

On Oct 7, 4:48 pm, Dekker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7 Okt., 16:19, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > cybersource.com.au> wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:52:15 +, Dekker wrote: > > > Is it possible to override 'and' and/or 'or'? > > > Not without hacking the Python source code, in w

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 5:22 pm, Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MarkyMarc wrote: > > On Oct 7, 4:24 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> MarkyMarc a écrit : > >> import is a statement. It's executed, like any other top-level code, > >> when the module is imported (or the

Re: Yet another comparison of Python Web Frameworks

IMO this is not as much a framework comparison rather than an evaluation of the individual components that make up Pylons. The framework is the sum of all its parts. Programmers should not need to know that that a package named Beaker is used for sessions, Routes for url mapping, PasteDeploy for

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

Dekker wrote: > Well... I have to live with the (binary) __and__, __or__ option and > the user has to write: > > SqlValueInt(4) & SqlValueInt(5) --> SqlOpAnd(SqlValueInt(4), > SqlValueInt(5)) > > Thanks for your input, but __nonzero__ is not of any help in this > case... I want to abuse the "magi

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc wrote: > On Oct 7, 4:24 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> MarkyMarc a écrit : >> import is a statement. It's executed, like any other top-level code, >> when the module is imported (or the script loaded into the interpreter >> if it's called directly). So if A.py impor

Re: Tkinter text widget

On Oct 6, 11:18 pm, goldtech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought the "DISABLED" made it so I could not edit it. But it also > makes it so I can not scroll down. If you make the window smaller than > the content then try to put a cursor in there to use up/down arrow you > can't. > > What I want i

Re: weakrefs and bound methods

When I change the class Wrapper to following, the class Foo works: class Wrapper(object): def __init__(self,x): self.func_name = x.func_name self.x = weakref.ref(x.im_self) def __call__(self,*args,**kwargs): x = self.x()

weakrefs and bound methods

Hi. I have a problem with weak refs and bound methods. The best explanation for the problem is a short bit of code. I have the three classes Wrapper, Foo and Bar: import weakref class Wrapper(object): def __init__(self,x): self.x = weakref.ref(x) def __call__(sel

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

On 7 Okt., 16:19, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au> wrote: > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:52:15 +, Dekker wrote: > > Is it possible to override 'and' and/or 'or'? > > Not without hacking the Python source code, in which case what you've got > is no longer Python. > > Why do you w

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:24:35 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: >> [whate everyone else wrote :(] >> >> /W > > Dangit! 4th of 4. > Gotta type quicker. That's okay, in two weeks time there will be 139 messages in this thread, it will have devolved into an argume

Re: Newbie packages Q

On Oct 7, 4:24 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > MarkyMarc a écrit : > (snip) > > > And the atest and btest, shouldn't they be able to import each > > other?? > > import is a statement. It's executed, like any other top-level code, > when the module is imported (or the script loaded into the interp

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

Wildemar Wildenburger wrote: > [whate everyone else wrote :(] > > /W Dangit! 4th of 4. Gotta type quicker. /W -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie packages Q

MarkyMarc a écrit : (snip) > And the atest and btest, shouldn't they be able to import each > other?? import is a statement. It's executed, like any other top-level code, when the module is imported (or the script loaded into the interpreter if it's called directly). So if A.py imports B.py and

Re: Override 'and' and 'or'

Dekker wrote: > Is it possible to override 'and' and/or 'or'? I cannot find a special > method for it... __and__ and __rand__ and __or__ and __ror__ are for > binary manipulation... any proposals? > > Have marvelous sunday, > Marco > I guess you're looking for __nonzero__() http://docs.python.or

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