Re: ActivePython 2.3.5.236 and ActivePython 2.4.0.244 are available

2005-02-10 Thread mep
ActivePython-2.4.0-243-win32-ix86.msi : 29M ActivePython-2.4.0-244-win32-ix86.msi : 18M What make so much difference of the size of them, which distinct monir version number for 1 only. Any explaination? -- Best Regards, Wang Kebo http://www.huihoo.org/~mep "Trent Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: implementing singleton class at the module level

2005-02-10 Thread Michele Simionato
A Singleton class is there to be inherited from; a singleton instance like the one you define is pretty much useless (unless I misunderstand your intentions). Michele Simionato -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: goto, cls, wait commands

2005-02-10 Thread James
On Windows, I use WConio http://newcenturycomputers.net/projects/wconio.html It provides other screen functions you might have gotten used to in QBasic as well. On unix/cygwin, use curses. I am not aware of any portable library though. I used to use cls a lot in my QBasic days. Now I just don't.

Re: Python v.s. c++

2005-02-10 Thread suryaprakashg
xiaobin yang wrote: > Hi, if i am already skillful with c++. Is it useful to learn python? thanks! Defenitly , It is much easier to convert an idea to a living model easily in python and with out much effort . You can always mix things with C++ and python ( for optimization or whatever)with s

Re: convert list of tuples into several lists

2005-02-10 Thread Stephen Thorne
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:35:43 +0100, Pierre Quentel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steven Bethard a écrit : > > Cappy2112 wrote: > > > >> What does the leading * do? > > > > > > Tells Python to use the following iterable as the (remainder of the) > > argument list: > > > > Could someone explain why t

Re: [perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread Xah Lee
David Eppstein's code is very nice. Here's the python version of the perl code: ©# -*- coding: utf-8 -*- ©# Python © ©def combo (n): ©'''returns all possible (unordered) pairs out of n numbers 1 to n. © ©Returns a dictionary. The keys are of the form "n,m", ©and their values are tuple

Re: convert list of tuples into several lists

2005-02-10 Thread Pierre Quentel
Steven Bethard a écrit : Cappy2112 wrote: What does the leading * do? Tells Python to use the following iterable as the (remainder of the) argument list: Could someone explain why this doesn't work : Python 2.3.2 (#49, Oct 2 2003, 20:02:00) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type "help", "co

Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread rhat
I actually meant to link to the last two ONLamp articles you mentioned, so yeah I have seen those (kinda forgot to post them, in fact). Thanks for the other links too, they look pretty interesting. Incidentally, what kind of projects are you guys (planning on) using this technology with? I'm workin

Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread rhat
Tom Willis wrote: > It could be a bug in gmail. I wasn't actually accusing you, just > thought it was funny enough to point out. Of course you could be more > sarcastic than me who knows. :) > > I'm not worried though. I believe the best strategy against Identity > theft is bad credit. > > So ques

Re: a sequence question

2005-02-10 Thread David Isaac
"Nick Coghlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Using zip(*[iter(l)]*N) or zip(*(iter(l),)*N) simply extends the above to the > general case. Clearly true. But can you please go into much more detail for a newbie? I see that [iter(l)]*N produces an N element list with

PyINI : Cross-Platform INI parser

2005-02-10 Thread SeSe
hi, every one, I started a opensource project PyINI for corss-platform *.ini parsing at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyini/ I have released a simple alpha version, which can read *.ini, with some extended features such as "key=value1,value2,value3". I also made a c++ binding to PyINI with elmer

Re: Python-libnjb on macosx

2005-02-10 Thread Christian Dieterich
On Déardaoin, Feabh 10, 2005, at 18:08 America/Chicago, Robert Kern wrote: Timothy Grant wrote: I was working on some things that use Glenn Strong's excellent libnjb wrapper on my Linux box. I have since bought a PowerBook and have been trying to get everything working correctly under OS/X. This

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2005-02-10 Thread Greg Ewing
Sion Arrowsmith wrote: Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a fellow named Church once pointed out, lambdas are really *all* you need in a language... ... where as others argue that it is impractical not to have some form of runtime data storage, thereby giving rise to the separation of Churc

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Re: Performance Issues of MySQL with Python

2005-02-10 Thread Haibao Tang
There are no performance overhead except when you are dragging a huge chunk of information out of the database, in that case, python is converting the data to its tuple data type which adds one more processing. I found this when I didn't have the priviledge to do "mysql> SELECT * FROM TBL INTO OUT

Re: Loading functions from a file during run-time

2005-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2005-02-11, Bryant Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to read in files, during run-time, which contain > plain Python function definitions, and then call those > functions by their string name. In other words, I'd like to > read in arbitrary files with function definitions, using a

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Re: [perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread Haibao Tang
I am no longer resisting. As time goes, the nausea when I first saw Mr. Lee's smelly "technical posts" is starting to fade. The discussion group should have a high tolerance towards polymorphic people these days. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread Brian van den Broek
rhat said unto the world upon 2005-02-10 21:10: Hi Everyone, I've recently been reading some articles about unit-testing in Python [1] [2], but I am a bit confused: where do I go to get started with this? I tried googling for "unittest" but all I've found are some old links to projects that already

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Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread Tom Willis
It could be a bug in gmail. I wasn't actually accusing you, just thought it was funny enough to point out. Of course you could be more sarcastic than me who knows. :) I'm not worried though. I believe the best strategy against Identity theft is bad credit. So question , do you see the big red blo

Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread rhat
Yeah, you know I only ask questions about Test-driven development basics in hopes of obtaining your personal information, so that I can sell it on the Molodovian blackmarket. I'm not a "Phisher", I'm a comp-sci major who's too lazy to dig around for his own answers. ;) Thanks for your help Roy, I

Loading functions from a file during run-time

2005-02-10 Thread Bryant Huang
Hello! I would like to read in files, during run-time, which contain plain Python function definitions, and then call those functions by their string name. In other words, I'd like to read in arbitrary files with function definitions, using a typical 'open()' call, but then have those functions av

Re: goto, cls, wait commands

2005-02-10 Thread Michael Hoffman
BOOGIEMAN wrote: First of all, what's Python command equivalent to QBasic's "goto" ? You can only use the goto function if you use Python with line numbers, thusly: """ 10 import sys 20 real_stdout = sys.stdout 30 class fake_stdout(object): pass 40 fake_stdout.write = lambda x, y: None 50 sys.stdou

Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread Tom Willis
Neat the original poster shows up as a potential Phisher with a nice big red warning in gmail. Due to some funky header fakedness. Don't give them your SSN. :) I have a related question. What is PyDoc? I see it come up alot in searches for Unit testing and python, but I've never gotten around to

Re: Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread Roy Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "rhat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I've recently been reading some articles about unit-testing in Python > [1] [2], but I am a bit confused: where do I go to get started with > this? I tried googling for "unittest" but all I've found are some old >

Re: Install MySQLdb on Mac OS X (10.3)

2005-02-10 Thread Skip Montanaro
TK> I can't install MySQLdb on Mac OS X (Ver. 10.3) properly. Here's my TK> environment: TK> 1. MySQL-python-1.0.0 ... Try a more recent version of mysql-python. I think 1.1.7 is the latest. Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Zope: Adding a layer causes valid output to become an object reference?

2005-02-10 Thread Junkmail
I've been playing with Zope for about a year and took the plunge last week into making a product. To keep it [arguably] simple I used a ZClass to wrap an external method. My ZClass works and returns the output I expect. What doesn't work is when I refer to an object I've created from a dtml-var

PyQt documentation

2005-02-10 Thread Eric Jardim
Hi, Is there any site that gather all the documentation about PyQt? The docs of the Riverbank site is poor, and I have found separate tutorials on the net. I know that the Kompany have made a "Qtdoc"-like to PyQt. But it is not free doc. Does anybody know anything about any project for making P

Re: [perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread YYUsenet
Xah Lee wrote: a year ago i wrote this perl program as part of a larger program. as a exercise of fun, let's do a python version. I'll post my version later today. [code snipped] This is Perl-Python a-day. To subscribe, see http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python.html Xah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://xah

Unit Testing in Python

2005-02-10 Thread rhat
Hi Everyone, I've recently been reading some articles about unit-testing in Python [1] [2], but I am a bit confused: where do I go to get started with this? I tried googling for "unittest" but all I've found are some old links to projects that already use it, and the older (as the articles put it)

Re: [perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread axel
In comp.lang.perl.misc Xah Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a year ago i wrote this perl program as part of a larger program. > sub combo ($) { >my $max=$_[0]; >my %hh=(); >for (my $j=1; $j < $max; ++$j) { >for (my $i=1; $i <= $max; ++$i) { >my $m = (($i+$j)-1)%$ma

Re: pygame and music

2005-02-10 Thread Lee Harr
On 2005-02-10, maxime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I try to develop a game in python and pygame. > In my game I play a music (.mid with pygame.mixer.music) but sometime > I need to accelerate it but I don't see how to do that with pygame. Is > it possible? If not, do you know an other python mu

Re: lambda and for that matter goto not forgetting sugar

2005-02-10 Thread Carl Banks
Philip Smith wrote: > I've read with interest the continuing debate about 'lambda' and its place > in Python. > > Just to say that personally I think its an elegant and useful construct for > many types of programming task (particularly number theory/artificial > intelligence/genetic algorithms)

Re: Performance Issues of MySQL with Python

2005-02-10 Thread Andy Dustman
There aren't any "issues", but there are a few things to keep in mind. First of all, prior to 4.1, MySQL does no parameter binding, which means that the parameters must be inserted into your SQL statements as literals. MySQLdb will do this for you automatically, but keep in mind that you will be c

Re: [perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread Jack Diederich
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 02:51:24PM -0800, Xah Lee wrote: > a year ago i wrote this perl program as part of a larger program. > > as a exercise of fun, let's do a python version. I'll post my version > later today. from probstat import Combination There is something deeply wrong about plugging yo

Re: deepcopy chokes with TypeError on dynamically assigned instance method

2005-02-10 Thread Kanenas
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:54:04 -0800, Kanenas wrote: >When an instance has a dynamically assigned instance method, deepcopy >throws a TypeError with the message "TypeError: instancemethod >expected at least 2 arguments, got 0". I forgot to mention that the TypeError is thrown only when construct

Re: Tkinter.Canvas saved as JPEG?

2005-02-10 Thread Jeff Epler
The Tkinter Canvas directly supports saving to postscript format, but not any standard bitmap format (or even modern vector formats like pdf or svg). Jeff pgpBVvDhXslRq.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: deepcopy chokes with TypeError on dynamically assigned instance method

2005-02-10 Thread Kanenas
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:50:09 +1000, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> def __init__(self, l=[]): > >Change this too: > def __init__(self, l=None): > if l is None: l = [] Same error. The only ways of not getting the TypeError I've found are not to call deepcopy or not assign an

Re: is there a safe marshaler?

2005-02-10 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Alan Kennedy] >> Well, the python JSON codec provided appears to use eval, which might >> make it *seem* unsecure. >> >> http://www.json-rpc.org/pyjsonrpc/index.xhtml >> >> But a more detailed examination of the code indicates, to this reader >> at least, that it can be made completely secure very

Tkinter.Canvas saved as JPEG?

2005-02-10 Thread Erik Johnson
I want to draw some simple (dynamic) graphs and get these saved as a JPEG file to reference in a web link. I am aware of PIL (Python Image Library), but unfortunatley my system does not have it built. After looking at the README for it and seeing it depends on two separate packages to suppor

Re: namespaces module (a.k.a. bunch, struct, generic object, etc.) PEP

2005-02-10 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
I like it alot! My only minor complaint is that the name is to long. Also I *really wish* the Namespace could do this: r, g, b = col = Namespace(r = 4, g = 3, b = 12) But alas, I guess that's not doable within the scope of the Namespace PEP. -- mvh Björn -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/list

ANN: ActivePython 2.3.5.236 and ActivePython 2.4.0.244 are available

2005-02-10 Thread Trent Mick
I'm pleased to announce that ActivePython 2.3.5 build 236 and ActivePython 2.4.0 build 244 are now available from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products/ActivePython ActivePython 2.3.5.236 is a bug-fix release matching core Python 2.3.5. ActivePython 2.4.0.244 is a bug-fix release matching core P

Re: Python-libnjb on macosx

2005-02-10 Thread Robert Kern
Timothy Grant wrote: I was working on some things that use Glenn Strong's excellent libnjb wrapper on my Linux box. I have since bought a PowerBook and have been trying to get everything working correctly under OS/X. This morning I got Python-libnjb to build without errors using the following comma

Re: tkinter menu bar problem

2005-02-10 Thread John Pote
Thanks for the reply. I now have radio buttons (with a nice tick!) on my menu that can be greyed out when disabled. I can also change the background colour of the individual buttons as you suggest. What I cannot do is change the background colour of the menu bar itself. The following code is ac

Install MySQLdb on Mac OS X (10.3)

2005-02-10 Thread TK
Hi, I can't install MySQLdb on Mac OS X (Ver. 10.3) properly. Here's my environment: 1. MySQL-python-1.0.0 2. Python 2.3 3. mysql -V /usr/local/mysql-standard-4.1.9-apple-darwin7.7.0-powerpc/bin/mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.9, for apple-darwin7.7.0 (po werpc) 4. platform.platform() -> 'Darwin-7.

Re: lambda and for that matter goto not forgetting sugar

2005-02-10 Thread John J. Lee
from goto.py ( http://entrian.com/goto/ ): .# Label: "label .x" XXX Computed labels. :-) John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A great Alan Kay quote

2005-02-10 Thread Francis Girard
Le jeudi 10 Février 2005 19:47, PA a écrit : > On Feb 10, 2005, at 19:43, Francis Girard wrote: > > I think he's a bit nostalgic. > > Steve Wart about "why Smalltalk never caught on": > > http://hoho.dyndns.org/~holger/smalltalk.html > > Cheers > > -- > PA, Onnay Equitursay > http://alt.textdrive.c

Re: [perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread David Eppstein
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > combo(n) returns a collection with elements of pairs that is all > possible combinations of 2 things from n. For example, combo(4) > returns {'3,4' => ['3',4],'1,2' => [1,2],'1,3' => [1,3],'1,4' => > [1,4],'2,3' => ['2',3],'2,

Re: [N00B] What's %?

2005-02-10 Thread Jeff Shannon
Harlin wrote: What good is the modulus operator? What would I ever need it for? * A quick way of testing whether an integer is even and odd * For that matter, a quick way of testing whether a the variable is a factor of any other arbitrary number. * In some programs (a weight control program I work

Re: is there a safe marshaler?

2005-02-10 Thread Irmen de Jong
Hi Alan Alan Kennedy wrote: Well, the python JSON codec provided appears to use eval, which might make it *seem* unsecure. http://www.json-rpc.org/pyjsonrpc/index.xhtml But a more detailed examination of the code indicates, to this reader at least, that it can be made completely secure very easi

Re: Pioneers of WIMPishness (was: A great Alan Kay quote)

2005-02-10 Thread TZOTZIOY
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:08:11 GMT, rumours say that [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird) might have written: [more snipping] >With a little provocation, I can push the ideas of "mechanical" >or "machine" referencing back at least to the Enlightenment, and >arguably much farther. Please ignore my ear

RE: [N00B] What's %?

2005-02-10 Thread Delaney, Timothy C (Timothy)
Harlin wrote: > In the mode of anticipating another question... I get these all the > time at work of all places! You'd think IT workers would know the > answer to these... > > What good is the modulus operator? What would I ever need it for? # Print a summary every 100 rows for i in range(1, 10

Re: That horrible regexp idiom

2005-02-10 Thread Johann C. Rocholl
Hi, > import re > foo_pattern = re.compile('foo') > > '>>> m = foo_pattern.search(subject) > '>>> if m: > '>>>pass > '>>> else: > '>>>pass I agree that is horrible. This is one of my favorite problems with python syntax. > but it occured to me today, that it is possible to do it in pyth

Re: Python v.s. c++

2005-02-10 Thread Courageous
>Joking aside, you will love python and is well worth it since you can >still use your c++ skills. If a program is fine art, Python is my medium, upon which I paint my imagination, without any thought of the canvas before me. C// -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [N00B] What's %?

2005-02-10 Thread Harlin
In the mode of anticipating another question... I get these all the time at work of all places! You'd think IT workers would know the answer to these... What good is the modulus operator? What would I ever need it for? * A quick way of testing whether an integer is even and odd * For that matter,

Re: Python and version control

2005-02-10 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Peter Hansen] BTW, as a general caution: while Visual Source Safe may be "easy", it's also dangerous and has been known to corrupt many a code base, mine included. I wouldn't touch the product with a virtual ten-foot pole [Christos TZOTZIOY Georgiou] Are you sure you got the acronym right?-) It

Re: Python and version control

2005-02-10 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Carl] What is the ultimate version control tool for Python if you are working in a Windows environment? [Peter Hansen] I never liked coupling the two together like that. Instead I use tools like TortoiseCVS or (now) TortoiseSVN with a Subversion repository. These things let you access revision

Re: convert list of tuples into several lists

2005-02-10 Thread Cappy2112
Thanks I dont remember reading anything about this. What is this feature called? Steven Bethard wrote: > Cappy2112 wrote: > > What does the leading * do? > > Tells Python to use the following iterable as the (remainder of the) > argument list: > > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

www.python.org down - power outage

2005-02-10 Thread webmaster
Yes, we know that www.python.org is down. XS4ALL is suffering a power outage. Yes, they have backup and redundant power, but it's not working properly for the segment of the building the web server is located in. Fortunately, mail.python.org is located in a different part of the building, which i

[perl-python] combinatorics fun

2005-02-10 Thread Xah Lee
a year ago i wrote this perl program as part of a larger program. as a exercise of fun, let's do a python version. I'll post my version later today. =pod combo(n) returns a collection with elements of pairs that is all possible combinations of 2 things from n. For example, combo(4) returns {'3,4

Re: is there a safe marshaler?

2005-02-10 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Irmen de Jong] >>> I need a fast and safe (secure) marshaler. [Alan Kennedy] >> , would something JSON be suitable for your need? >> >> http://json.org [Irmen de Jong] > Looks very interesting indeed, but in what way would this be > more secure than say, pickle or marshal? > A quick glance at

Re: goto, cls, wait commands

2005-02-10 Thread Harlin
No goto needed. If this makes no sense (which it may not if all you've been exposed to is BASIC) it wouldn't be a bad idea to Google why you should never use a goto statement. To do a clear screen you'll need to use the method that your command shell uses. The shortcut to this is for Windows, 'cls

Re: Python and version control

2005-02-10 Thread TZOTZIOY
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:13:01 -0500, rumours say that Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written: >BTW, as a general caution: while Visual Source Safe may be >"easy", it's also dangerous and has been known to corrupt >many a code base, mine included. I wouldn't touch the product >with a v

Re: Pioneers of WIMPishness (was: A great Alan Kay quote)

2005-02-10 Thread TZOTZIOY
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 03:08:11 GMT, rumours say that [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird) might have written: >I entirely agree that Engelbart deserves full recognition for his >achievements. At the same time, I think we also should note that >Ted Nelson was publishing articles about "hypertext" in '6

Re: lambda and for that matter goto not forgetting sugar

2005-02-10 Thread TZOTZIOY
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:21:47 +, rumours say that Richie Hindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> might have written: > >[Philip] >> For that matter I would find implementing the classical algorithms far >> easier if python had 'goto' > >I can't believe it - first a request for COMEFROM and now one for GOTO

Re: Python v.s. c++

2005-02-10 Thread news.sydney.pipenetworks.com
xiaobin yang wrote: Hi, if i am already skillful with c++. Is it useful to learn python? thanks! Does skillful mean you can do anything with ease and quick enough for you and your clients ? Are your results bug free and easy to maintain ? If the answer to all this is yes then probably not. If t

Re: hard_decoding

2005-02-10 Thread Skip Montanaro
Tamas> Do you have a convinient, easy way to remove special charachters Tamas> from u'strings'? Tamas> Replacing: Tamas> ÀÁÂÃÄÅ => A ... etc ... See if my latscii codec works for you: http://www.musi-cal.com/~skip/python/latscii.py Skip -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: Python and version control

2005-02-10 Thread Roger
Johann C. Rocholl wrote: Robert Brewer wrote: Peter Hansen wrote: Carl wrote: What is the ultimate version control tool for Python if you are working in a Windows environment? I never liked coupling the two together like that. Instead I use tools like TortoiseCVS or (now) TortoiseSVN with a Subv

Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)

2005-02-10 Thread PA
On Feb 10, 2005, at 22:55, Irmen de Jong wrote: Perhaps, but the spec makes my skin crawl. Perhaps I could interest you in JSON then: "It is easy for humans to read and write. It is easy for machines to parse and generate. " http://www.crockford.com/JSON/index.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay

ftplib - file.write, file.close() - verify finished writing locally before delete source?

2005-02-10 Thread Peter A.Schott
If I want to verify that a file has finished writing before deleting the remote file, what would be the best method? Current code on Python 2.4: #filename - remote FTP server File Name #NewFile - local file copy of the remote file #objFTP - standard ftplib.FTP object NewFile = open(os.path.join(

Re: namespaces module (a.k.a. bunch, struct, generic object, etc.) PEP

2005-02-10 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:39:29 -0700, Steven Bethard wrote: > Yeah, I guess that was really the motivation of this module. I > personally wouldn't use it all that often -- certainly not with the > frequency that I use, say, Python 2.4's set type -- but I think there > are enough of us out here wh

Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)

2005-02-10 Thread PA
On Feb 10, 2005, at 22:55, Irmen de Jong wrote: Also, it seems ill-fit for efficient machine-to-machine communication... Well, then, if you are looking for industrial strength quality, ASN.1 is the way to go. After all, a good chunk of the telecom infrastructure is using it. Cheers -- PA, Onnay

Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)

2005-02-10 Thread Irmen de Jong
PA wrote: Sorry if this is off-topic, I didn't follow the thread from the very beginning, but wouldn't something like YAML work for you perhaps? http://yaml.org/ Perhaps, but the spec makes my skin crawl. Also, it seems ill-fit for efficient machine-to-machine communication (yaml seems to be des

Re: Seekable output from ClientForm?

2005-02-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks a lot! Matej -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: goto, cls, wait commands

2005-02-10 Thread Brian van den Broek
BOOGIEMAN said unto the world upon 2005-02-10 16:06: OK, thanks all Here's presentation of my advanced programming skills :) import os import time os.system("cls") number = 78 guess = 0 while guess != number: guess = input("Guess number: ") if

Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)

2005-02-10 Thread PA
On Feb 10, 2005, at 22:21, Irmen de Jong wrote: PS the xdr format is not self-describing in the way that marshal and pickle streams are. That is a big limitiation for what I need it for so xdr seems to drop off my radar. Is an ASN.1 stream self-describing? Not sure how much "self-describing" you wa

[ANN] Movable Python 0.4.6

2005-02-10 Thread fuzzyman
A new release of Movable Python is available - 0.4.6 This fixes a few issues including a bug in the Python 2.2 support, and a fix for a psyco/IPython incompatibility issue. We have a new icon and logo thanks to Aidan Ashby - http://aidan.voidspace.org.uk Due to bugfixes (in movpy) we can now off

Re: is there a safe marshaler?

2005-02-10 Thread Irmen de Jong
Alan Kennedy wrote: [Irmen de Jong] Pickle and marshal are not safe. They can do harmful things if fed maliciously constructed data. That is a pity, because marshal is fast. I need a fast and safe (secure) marshaler. Hi Irmen, I'm not necessarily proposing a solution to your problem, but am inter

www.python.org down

2005-02-10 Thread webmaster
Yes, we know that www.python.org is down. Please be patient. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code -- not in reams

Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)

2005-02-10 Thread Irmen de Jong
PA wrote: On Feb 10, 2005, at 15:01, Irmen de Jong wrote: Is xdrlib the only option? I would expect that it is fast and safe because it (the xdr spec) has been around for so long. XDR? Like Sun's "XDR: External Data Representation standard"? http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1014.html http://www.faqs.or

Re: goto, cls, wait commands

2005-02-10 Thread BOOGIEMAN
OK, thanks all Here's presentation of my advanced programming skills :) import os import time os.system("cls") number = 78 guess = 0 while guess != number: guess = input("Guess number: ") if guess > number: print "Lower" tim

Re: Variable size plot symbols, variable hue plot colors in Python (MatPlotLib) ?

2005-02-10 Thread John Hunter
> "Colombes" == Colombes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Colombes> Using MatPlotLib plot function, is there a way to get Colombes> variable size plot symbols? For example, using symbol Colombes> strings like 'o' (circle), 's' (square), 'x' (cross), Colombes> etc., is there a way

Re: Python COM Makepy Excel 9.0 error

2005-02-10 Thread Chris
Thank you! That did the trick. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Name of type of object

2005-02-10 Thread Kent Johnson
Jive Dadson wrote: I don't think I've quite got it. The application I'm writing has some similarities to an interactive shell. Like an interactive shell, it executes arbitrary code that it receives from an input stream. When it gets an exception, it should create an informative message, regardles

Re: is there a safe marshaler?

2005-02-10 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Alan Kennedy] What I find particularly intriguing is the JSON-RPC protocol, which looks like a nice lightweight alternative to XML-RPC. http://oss.metaparadigm.com/jsonrpc/ Also interesting is the browser embeddable JSON-RPC client written in javascript, for which you can see a demo here http:

Re: namespaces module (a.k.a. bunch, struct, generic object, etc.) PEP

2005-02-10 Thread Steven Bethard
Jeremy Bowers wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:56:45 -0700, Steven Bethard wrote: In the "empty classes as c structs?" thread, we've been talking in some detail about my proposed "generic objects" PEP. Based on a number of suggestions, I'm thinking more and more that instead of a single collections t

Re: Python v.s. c++

2005-02-10 Thread Michael Sparks
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, xiaobin yang wrote: > Hi, if i am already skillful with c++. Is it useful to learn python? thanks! Personally I would say yes, largely because I tend to find them complementary languages. It's easier (IMO) to explore random ideas in python without getting nailed into corner

Re: Python COM Makepy Excel 9.0 error

2005-02-10 Thread Jim Sizelove
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen this? When I run the COM Makepy utility and choose Microsoft Excel 9.0 Object Library (1.3), I get an application error message: PythonWin: Pythonwin.exe - Application Error The instruction at "0x77fcc87" referenced memory at "0x0307a705". The memory could

Re: Is this a bug? BOM decoded with UTF8

2005-02-10 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
pekka niiranen wrote: I have two files "my.utf8" and "my.utf16" which both contain BOM and two "a" characters. Contents of "my.utf8" in HEX: EFBBBF6161 Contents of "my.utf16" in HEX: FEFF6161 This is not true: this byte string does not denote two "a" characters. Instead, it is a single char

Re: Python v.s. c++

2005-02-10 Thread Dalius Dobravolskas
Hello > Hi, if i am already skillful with c++. Is it useful to learn python? thanks! Very useful :) Dalius -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: namespaces module (a.k.a. bunch, struct, generic object, etc.) PEP

2005-02-10 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:56:45 -0700, Steven Bethard wrote: > In the "empty classes as c structs?" thread, we've been talking in some > detail about my proposed "generic objects" PEP. Based on a number of > suggestions, I'm thinking more and more that instead of a single > collections type, I shoul

Re: PyQt and Python 2.4 - also WinXP LnF?

2005-02-10 Thread Simon John
I've just read the Qt4 GPL for Windows will only support gcc (and maybe MinGW) anyway, not BCC or VisualC++ (or it's free equivalents), so it looks like it would be a daunting task to actually build PyQt See http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9675 I guess the Qt used in PyQt from BlackAdde

Re: PyQt and Python 2.4 - also WinXP LnF?

2005-02-10 Thread Simon John
I've just read the Qt4 GPL for Windows will only support gcc (and maybe MinGW) anyway, not BCC or VisualC++ (or it's free equivalents), so it looks like it would be a daunting task to actually build PyQt See http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=9675 I guess the Qt used in PyQt from BlackAdde

Re: sre is broken in SuSE 9.2

2005-02-10 Thread Serge Orlov
Peter Maas wrote: > Serge Orlov schrieb: > > Denis S. Otkidach wrote: > > To summarize the discussion: either it's a bug in glibc or there is an > > option to specify modern POSIX locale. POSIX locale consist of > > characters from the portable character set, unicode is certainly > > portable. > >

Re: [N00B] What's %?

2005-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2005-02-10, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> It's the modulus operator. It returns the remainder of integer >> division. As we used to say in second grade: >> >> 4 goes into 107 26 times with 3 left over. >> >> 3 goes into 4 2 times with 1 left over. > > H

Re: [N00B] What's %?

2005-02-10 Thread Peter Hansen
Grant Edwards wrote: It's the modulus operator. It returns the remainder of integer division. As we used to say in second grade: 4 goes into 107 26 times with 3 left over. 3 goes into 4 2 times with 1 left over. How long were you stuck in second grade, Grant? -Peter P.S. You're correct, for

Re: goto, cls, wait commands

2005-02-10 Thread Pekka Niiranen
import os if os.name == "nt": os.system("cls") # Works in w2k else: os.system("clear")# Works in cygwin's Bash Ulf Göransson wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Duncan Booth a écrit : BOOGIEMAN wrote: Secondly, how do I clear screen (cls) from text and other conten

Re: sre is broken in SuSE 9.2

2005-02-10 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Peter Maas wrote: >> To summarize the discussion: either it's a bug in glibc or there is an >> option to specify modern POSIX locale. POSIX locale consist of >> characters from the portable character set, unicode is certainly >> portable. > > What about the environment variable LANG? I have SuSE 9

Python-libnjb on macosx

2005-02-10 Thread Timothy Grant
I was working on some things that use Glenn Strong's excellent libnjb wrapper on my Linux box. I have since bought a PowerBook and have been trying to get everything working correctly under OS/X. This morning I got Python-libnjb to build without errors using the following command: ld -dynamic -dy

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