[issue10199] Move Demo/turtle under Lib/

Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: Committed in revision 86095. I included only those demo scripts that are described in the current manual. I am open to making further improvements prior to bata 1, and will open separate issues to track those. -- stage: commit review -> commit

[issue10199] Move Demo/turtle under Lib/

Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Gregor Lingl wrote: .. > Imho it is very important to clarify the name convention for demoscripts to > be added to the demo before committing > (or at least before the apperance of beta1). It decides about adding scripts

[issue10199] Move Demo/turtle under Lib/

Gregor Lingl added the comment: Imho it is very important to clarify the name convention for demoscripts to be added to the demo before committing (or at least before the apperance of beta1). It decides about adding scripts to the Examples Menu of the viewer. We all know, that things once the

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Gregor Lingl added the comment: First of all: I'd not like to see turtle.py converted into a package. I think with the turtle module things should be as simple as possible and I don't see any need to put approx. 100kB of code into an __init__.py and be it only because there are hundreds of th

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Raymond Hettinger added the comment: > I think it a mistake that tkinter.__init__ is huge, > about as big as the other 13 modules added together. > It makes it really hard to dive into the code That is certainly *not* a best practice. -- nosy: +rhettinger

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R. David Murray added the comment: Yeah, I wish unittest hadn't been split up, and I really dislike the organization of the email package, though I think I understand how it came about historically. So I vote for flat :) -- nosy: +r.david.murray _

Re: [issue10199] Move Demo/turtle under Lib/

On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote: > > Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Guido van Rossum >> Also many people don't expect to find any code in a file named __init__.py >> (and most of the time I >> agree with this). > > Well,

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Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Various comments: I usually expect things in stdlib to be usefully importable. Idlelib is clearly an exception. >> Also many people don't expect to find any code in a file named >> __init__.py (and most of the time I agree with this). > Well, logging, tkinte

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Ned Deily added the comment: Just an FYI: the python.org installers for Mac OS X install the demos including the turtle demo (which is probably the most useful of the bunch these days) in /Applications/Python m.n/Extras/Demo. Depending on the default application association for ".py" files (

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Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: I thought this email-to-roundup bug was fixed some time ago. The mangled sample session was: >>> turtle.forward('5 miles') Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "", line 1, in forward .. TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non

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Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: .. > I would like Gregor Lingl's approval of turning turtle.py into a package. Me too. :-) I added him to the "nosy list". >  It might make some things harder for novices, e.g. trackebacks and j

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Guido van Rossum added the comment: I would like Gregor Lingl's approval of turning turtle.py into a package. It might make some things harder for novices, e.g. trackebacks and just browsing the source code. Also many people don't expect to find any code in a file named __init__.py (and mos

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Alexander Belopolsky added the comment: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: .. > IMO converting turtle.py into a package, unless that's already planned > anyway, is not a good project > to undertake right now. What are your reasons? I don't necessarily disagree, but want

[issue10199] Move Demo/turtle under Lib/

Guido van Rossum added the comment: IMO converting turtle.py into a package, unless that's already planned anyway, is not a good project to undertake right now. (OTOH the demo itself already is a package, less an __init__.py file.) Note that the turtle module already runs some demo when inv

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New submission from Alexander Belopolsky : On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Alexander Belopolsky > wrote: >> The one demo that I want to find a better place for is Demo/turtle. > > Sure, go for it. It is a special case because the turt