Alexander Belopolsky <belopol...@users.sourceforge.net> added the comment:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Guido van Rossum <rep...@bugs.python.org> wrote: .. > I would like Gregor Lingl's approval of turning turtle.py into a package. Me too. :-) I added him to the "nosy list". > It might make some things harder for novices, e.g. trackebacks and just > browsing the source code. If better tracebacks were the goal, I would start with removing eval-generated module level functions: Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> File "<string>", line 1, in forward .. TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float' Browsing source code may indeed be complicated by the package structure. For example, I often find it difficult to navigate unittest code once it became a package in the recent versions. However, simple renaming of turtle.py to turtle/__init__.py is probably a non-event since novice-oriented environments such as IDEs are likely to take the user directly to turtle/__init__.py when he or she clicks on "turtle". > Also many people don't expect to find any code in a file named __init__.py > (and most of the time I > agree with this). Well, logging, tkinter, and ctypes are clearly counterexamples to this rule. > But the alternative isn't so great either, assuming we'll want strict > backwards compatibility (I > wouldn't want the instructions in Gregor's or anyone's book to start failing > because of this). Backwards compatibility can be restored by use of relative imports as necessary. This is the unittest approach where backward compatibility is paramount. > You can't rename turtle to turtle/turtle.py either, because then there'd be > horrible confusion > between turtle/ and turtle.py. Agree. We have too many turtles already. :-) On the other hand, moving turtle object definitions into turtle/pen.py in some distant future may not be a horrible idea. (Note that "pen" end "turtle" are already mostly synonymous.) > IOW, yes, flat still seems better than nested here! For a six year old, turtledemo is still nested - just without a dot. :-) PS: My six year old loves the turtle! ---------- _______________________________________ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <http://bugs.python.org/issue10199> _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
