New submission from Alexander Belopolsky <belopol...@users.sourceforge.net>:

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
> <alexander.belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The one demo that I want to find a better place for is Demo/turtle.
>
> Sure, go for it. It is a special case because the turtle module is
> also in the stdlib and these are intended for a particular novice
> audience. Anything we can do to make things easier for those people to
> get start with is probably worth it. Ideally they could just double
> click some file and the demo would fire up, with a command-line
> alternative (for the geeks among them) e.g. "python -m turtledemo" .
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>
-- "Move Demo scripts under Lib"
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2010-October/008397.html

Before I prepare a patch, I would like to get an agreement on the location of 
the demo package.  In the order of my preference:

1. turtle.demo Pro: obvious relationship to turtle.  Cons: require converting 
turtle.py to a package.

2. turtledemo  Pro: BDFL's suggestion; "Flat is better than nested".  Cons: 
relationship to turtle module is less obvious than in #1; stdlib namespace 
pollution. (Turtle invasion! :-)

3. demo.turtle - probably not a good idea if not as a part of a general Demo 
reorganization.

Note that while I listed conversion of turtle.py to a package as a cons, it may 
not be a bad idea on its own.  For example, toolkit abstraction naturally 
belongs to submodules and procedural interface belongs to package level while 
OOP classes may be separated into submodules.  While I am not proposing any 
such changes as a part of this ticket, it may not be a bad idea to take the 
first step and rename turtle.py to turtle/__init__.py.

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assignee: belopolsky
components: Demos and Tools
messages: 119612
nosy: belopolsky
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: Move Demo/turtle under Lib/
type: feature request
versions: Python 3.2

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