Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread Michael DeHaan
>> Are there any Puppet modules available for Func and MCollective >> agents? Ah, Puppet modules. I read that backwards, sorry :) > > Func: http://puppet-modules.git.puzzle.ch/?p=module-func.git Nice! Yeah, just basic service-package-file. Looks good! --Michael -- You received this message

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread Peter Meier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/19/2010 07:26 PM, SyRenity wrote: >> Just to clarify, Func does not use SSH.It uses XMLRPC over SSL, very >> similar >> to how Puppet works (no REST though), and has a daemon. > > I see, so Fabric is actually the only tool which allows agen

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread Michael DeHaan
> I see, so Fabric is actually the only tool which allows agent-less > operations. aka Distributed SSH? There are others, not sure of any that make it into more of a language. > > Are there any Puppet modules available for Func and MCollective > agents? Not for Func, but I'm sure they would lik

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread R.I.Pienaar
hey, - "SyRenity" wrote: > Hi. > > > What kind of tools do you mean? I deploy code with OS packages so > that makes it easy > > the package agent actually uses the Puppet provider code to do the > install/update/etc > > so it's cross platform. > > You mean you package your code as RPM/DEB,

[Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread SyRenity
> Just to clarify, Func does not use SSH.    It uses XMLRPC over SSL, very > similar > to how Puppet works (no REST though), and has a daemon. I see, so Fabric is actually the only tool which allows agent-less operations. Are there any Puppet modules available for Func and MCollective agents? T

[Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread SyRenity
Hi. > What kind of tools do you mean? I deploy code with OS packages so that makes > it easy > the package agent actually uses the Puppet provider code to do the > install/update/etc > so it's cross platform. You mean you package your code as RPM/DEB, and then install it via package agent (whic

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-19 Thread Michael DeHaan
> You probably mean that just for firing commands over group of > machines, it's better to be done in "SSH loop" tools, like Func/Fabric/ > etc, as it doesn't require client installation? Just to clarify, Func does not use SSH.It uses XMLRPC over SSL, very similar to how Puppet works (no REST

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-18 Thread R.I.Pienaar
hello, - "SyRenity" wrote: > Hi. > > Thanks for the detailed explanation. > > > MCollective enables you to write agents on all your nodes and talk > to > > them in an RPC fashion. It has more dependencies than some of the > other > > tools but provides tight integration with puppet and oth

[Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-18 Thread SyRenity
Hi. Thanks for the detailed explanation. > MCollective enables you to write agents on all your nodes and talk to > them in an RPC fashion. It has more dependencies than some of the other > tools but provides tight integration with puppet and other such tools > meaning instead of host lists etc yo

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-17 Thread R.I.Pienaar
hello, - "Michael DeHaan" wrote: > > I actually tried Capistrano sometimes ago, didn't quite like it due > > to extensive Ruby use (which admittedly I don't have much expired > > with). MCollective looks interesting, any how it compares to Func/Puppet? > > It introduces a message bus and

Re: [Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-16 Thread Michael DeHaan
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM, SyRenity wrote: > Hi. >> >> I'll throw a couple more into the mix --- Func also runs on your >> CentOS machine and can use Puppet certs in the latest source version. > > How Func compares to Fabric? > By puppet certs, you mean it's enough to add Puppet client to Pu

[Puppet Users] Re: Fabric vs ControlTier

2010-04-16 Thread SyRenity
Hi. > > I'll throw a couple more into the mix --- Func also runs on your > CentOS machine and can use Puppet certs in the latest source version. How Func compares to Fabric? By puppet certs, you mean it's enough to add Puppet client to Puppet master, and Func can re-use the created certificates?