GLM [was Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community]

2016-03-05 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 12:54:39PM -0500, Mark Hancock wrote: By the way, I'm not yet a frequent user of PSPP myself, as I'm "waiting in the wings" for it to have enough of the features from SPSS that I need to be able to switch over (specifically, I do a lot of repeated measur

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-04 Thread Alan Mead
On 3/4/2016 9:49 AM, John Darrington wrote: > Well it certainly is true that fixing issues in GNU/Linux has a higher > priority than fixing Windows issues. But that does not make PSPP a linux > first project. If there is a "pecking order" it is something like this: > > 1: GNU > 2: Other Free OSes

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 06:38:55PM +0100, John Darrington wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 08:09:00AM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > This is somewhat theoretical, though. I do not know any PSPP users or > developers who run GNU on Hurd. > > Habitually, I don't. But I do test it from time

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-04 Thread John Darrington
On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 08:09:00AM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote: This is somewhat theoretical, though. I do not know any PSPP users or developers who run GNU on Hurd. Habitually, I don't. But I do test it from time-to-time to make sure that it works ok. J' -- Avoid eavesdropping. Send

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 04:49:00PM +0100, John Darrington wrote: > On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 12:32:20PM -0600, Alan Mead wrote: > On 3/3/2016 11:54 AM, Mark Hancock wrote: > > I actually do get the sense that the devs here care about the Windows > > experience, but just don't have the

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-04 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 12:32:20PM -0600, Alan Mead wrote: On 3/3/2016 11:54 AM, Mark Hancock wrote: > I actually do get the sense that the devs here care about the Windows > experience, but just don't have the resources to test it. It's also > been noted that all the devs use s

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-04 Thread Friedrich Beckmann
Hi Frans, > Am 03.03.2016 um 21:24 schrieb Frans Houweling : > As a (daytime) Windows user I apologize for (…) (to Friedrich) our lack of > sense of humour. Never mind. As a full time human being I apologize to us for our wars, injustice, abuse and hunger. If we could meet in a non-virtual pla

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-03 Thread Alan Mead
My experience has been that the PSPP team is welcoming, so I don't think "cathedral model" is fair. But I also don't think you need to be apologetic about being a Windows user or a user. PSPP needs users and Windows users to test and report bugs. -Alan On 3/3/2016 2:24 PM, Frans Houweling wrote:

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-03 Thread Frans Houweling
If PSPP could expose a public API then developers on any platform would be encouraged to build little or big applications on top of it. Imitating SPSS to the point of copying its cathedral model seems like excessive zeal to me. It also exposes the developer team to this type of discussions and

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-03 Thread Alan Mead
On 3/3/2016 11:54 AM, Mark Hancock wrote: > I actually do get the sense that the devs here care about the Windows > experience, but just don't have the resources to test it. It's also > been noted that all the devs use some Linux-based OS exclusively, and > because open source projects naturally ar

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-03 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 12:54:39PM -0500, Mark Hancock wrote: > It was actually nothing that was said by PSPP devs, but in the GNU > documentation. Specifically, this: > http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Platforms John may be drawing your attention to the difference between Linux (a k

Re: PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Hancock
It was actually nothing that was said by PSPP devs, but in the GNU documentation. Specifically, this: http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Platforms I actually do get the sense that the devs here care about the Windows experience, but just don't have the resources to test it. It's also b

PSPP is not a "linux first" community

2016-03-03 Thread John Darrington
On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 01:43:31AM -0500, Mark Hancock wrote: I know this is a Linux-first community, I am disappointed that you think this. It is a common misconception which we have tried hard to dispell. It is true that PSPP *can* run on the same computer which might also run the