Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Sven Schwedas
On 2016-09-28 00:31, Giovanni Harting wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but that document you describe issues by > Mozilla and others, doesn't it state that it would only affect new > issues certs after a certain date? Yes, but most StartSSL/WoSign certificates are only valid for a year or less. S

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread lists
I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost certs would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else that would be the obvious solution.  Domain registration isn't free. Server time isn't free. Something like $20 a year would be fine. I already have a se

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Sven Schwedas
On 2016-09-28 10:25, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost certs > would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else that would > be the obvious solution. "how Let's Encrypt works" is a bit vague. Domain verification

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Christian Kivalo
Am 28. September 2016 10:25:42 MESZ, schrieb li...@lazygranch.com: >I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost >certs would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else >that would be the obvious solution.  I get mine through https://www.ssls.com >Domain

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Boris Behrens
> Am 28.09.2016 um 10:25 schrieb li...@lazygranch.com: > > I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost certs > would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else that would > be the obvious solution. > > Domain registration isn't free. Server time isn'

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 01:25:42AM -0700, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost > certs would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else > that would be the obvious solution.  I am curious what you don't like about "Le

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread lists
CACert came up in my search. I will look into it. Suggestions always appreciated since I'm quite comfortable with people out there knowing more than me. I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysterious upload to your server. It bugs me. About the only outside control of my server I a

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 01:55:06AM -0700, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysterious upload to your > server. It bugs me. You're mistaken about how LE works. There is no remote control of your server, or any externally imposed update. They provide

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Karol Augustin
On 28/09/16 09:25, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost certs would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else that would be the obvious solution. When Symantec first announced that they would compete with Let's Encr

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 28.09.2016 10:55, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysterious upload to > your server. It bugs me. Let's Encrypt does not upload anything to your server. You download an updated certificate, if and when you choose to. That process can be invoked ma

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread KSB
On 2016.09.28. 12:59, Ralph Seichter wrote: As for the "90 day deal": LE is still in ramp-up phase, so I expect the validity period to increase. Even with 90 days, it is worth using their certificates. In a DANE context, all you need to take care of is not automatically generating new keys with

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Allen Coates
On 28/09/16 09:51, Boris Behrens wrote: >> Am 28.09.2016 um 10:25 schrieb li...@lazygranch.com: >> >> I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low cost certs >> would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt works, else that would >> be the obvious solution. >> >> Do

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 28.09.2016 12:03, KSB wrote: > probably they will go down to 30 days as most admins learn to do > automation. I have read various LE posts regarding certificate lifetime, and while I agree that LE apparently favours automation, I don't think the matter has been decided yet. My personal (!) tak

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 1:55 AM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > > CACert came up in my search. I will look into it. Suggestions always > appreciated since I'm quite comfortable with people out there knowing more > than me. > > I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysterious upload to

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Rene 'Renne' Bartsch, B.Sc. Informatics
My StartSSL-certs are valid until 4th of october. Luckily I switched to Let's encrypt yesterday - with DANE, of course. ;-) Regards, Renne Am 28.09.2016 um 00:29 schrieb Viktor Dukhovni: > WoSign (who seemingly purchased StartCom) seem to have run into > some compliance issues as reported by

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Yuval Levy
On 16-09-28 04:55 AM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysterious upload to your > server. While I do not like to grant root access to a third-party controlled process on my server, there are good alternatives and the only things that I upload to my s

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Mike
On 9/28/2016 4:55 AM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > CACert came up in my search. I will look into it. Suggestions always > appreciated since I'm quite comfortable with people out there knowing more > than me. > > I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysterious upload to your > serve

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 08:53:01AM +, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 01:25:42AM -0700, li...@lazygranch.com > wrote: > > > I don't want take this thread off course, but suggestions for low > > cost certs would be appreciated. I don't like how Let's Encrypt > > works, else

Is there a best-practices document available?

2016-09-28 Thread Stephen Satchell
For PostFix in particular? For mail servers in general?

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread KSB
On 2016.09.28. 17:47, Mike wrote: On 9/28/2016 4:55 AM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: CACert came up in my search. I will look into it. Suggestions always appreciated since I'm quite comfortable with people out there knowing more than me. I didn't like the Let's Encrypt 90 day deal with mysteri

TLS AUTH forcing - thinkering

2016-09-28 Thread KSB
Hi! I would like to use smtpd_tls_auth_only=yes at least for submission port, but we have rare customers who have old scannners which don't support SSL/TLS(as they say). We also have probably strict HELO: smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl

Re: Is there a best-practices document available?

2016-09-28 Thread Wolfe, Robert
On 09/28/16 09:58 am, Stephen Satchell wrote: For PostFix in particular? For mail servers in general? What does a Google search tell you?

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Mike
On 9/28/2016 10:53 AM, KSB wrote: > On 2016.09.28. 17:47, Mike wrote: >> On 9/28/2016 4:55 AM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: >>> CACert came up in my search. I will look into it. Suggestions always >>> appreciated since I'm quite comfortable with people out there knowing more >>> than me. >>> >>> I

Re: Is there a best-practices document available?

2016-09-28 Thread Rene 'Renne' Bartsch, B.Sc. Informatics
Am 28.09.2016 um 17:02 schrieb Wolfe, Robert: > On 09/28/16 09:58 am, Stephen Satchell wrote: >> For PostFix in particular? >> For mail servers in general? >> > > What does a Google search tell you? And for data privacy/security you can have a look into directive BSI-TR03108 for german email pro

Re: Is there a best-practices document available?

2016-09-28 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 07:58:17AM -0700, Stephen Satchell wrote: > For PostFix in particular? > For mail servers in general? AFAIK there is not, other than perhaps the dead-tree books. A colleague and I have talked about starting one. I'm afraid it could become very large. We'd probably have

Re: TLS AUTH forcing - thinkering

2016-09-28 Thread KSB
On 2016.09.28. 18:03, KSB wrote: Hi! I would like to use smtpd_tls_auth_only=yes at least for submission port, but we have rare customers who have old scannners which don't support SSL/TLS(as they say). We also have probably strict HELO: smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_helo_restrictions = pe

Re: WoSign/StartCom CA in the news

2016-09-28 Thread lists
Bookmarked and all these emails archived. There is nothing like advice from someone who has done hands on work.  And it appears I was a bit hard on Let's Encrypt, but if a low cost cert is just as good, I rather have the simple solution.  Steve Gibson's "Security Now" podcast has been covering

Re: TLS AUTH forcing - thinkering

2016-09-28 Thread btb
On 2016.09.28 12.35, KSB wrote: On 2016.09.28. 18:03, KSB wrote: Hi! I would like to use smtpd_tls_auth_only=yes at least for submission port, but we have rare customers who have old scannners which don't support SSL/TLS(as they say). for this, i use the following: table_directory = ${config_

Re: Is there a best-practices document available?

2016-09-28 Thread A. Schulze
Am 28.09.2016 um 16:58 schrieb Stephen Satchell: For mail servers in general? I suggest MAAWG documents: https://www.m3aawg.org/published-documents Andreas

header checks and regex issues

2016-09-28 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm having a problem with a few different emails with attachments being rejected due to some pattern in my header checks that I can't figure out: Sep 28 09:34:11 mail03 postfix/cleanup[24507]: 31926209EDF9: reject: header Content-Type: application/vnd.ms-excel;??name="Copy of Net Commissions

Re: header checks and regex issues

2016-09-28 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/28/2016 4:15 PM, Alex wrote: > How can I modify the lines in my header_checks.pcre file to provide > more info on the specific pattern that's causing the problem instead > of just "message content rejected" the next time the email is > received? Note the log entry may not be the complete unm

Re: header checks and regex issues

2016-09-28 Thread Alex
Hi, On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Noel Jones wrote: > On 9/28/2016 4:15 PM, Alex wrote: > >> How can I modify the lines in my header_checks.pcre file to provide >> more info on the specific pattern that's causing the problem instead >> of just "message content rejected" the next time the email

Re: header checks and regex issues

2016-09-28 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/28/2016 7:04 PM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Noel Jones wrote: >> On 9/28/2016 4:15 PM, Alex wrote: >> >>> How can I modify the lines in my header_checks.pcre file to provide >>> more info on the specific pattern that's causing the problem instead >>> of just "mess