Re: Starting postfix

2011-02-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Patrick Ben Koetter put forth on 2/25/2011 4:20 PM: > * lst_ho...@kwsoft.de : >> Zitat von Wietse Venema : >>> This is now running on an Ubuntu virtual machine. >> >> Cool... >> And BTW i also have never seen Postfix die. It is one of the most >> stable non-trivial software systems i have seen unti

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 26.02.2011 00:52, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 10:50:45 +0100, kristof.vans...@telenet.be wrote: > >> This problem exist in the 2.7 and 2.8 branch: >> >> In file included from attr_clnt.c:77: >> /usr/include/unistd.h:329: error: conflicting types for 'closefrom' >> ./sys_def

Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
People, this week I have gone through a several iterations and several degrees of Postfix-upstart integration. The short answer is that only one option is practical at the moment. The longer answer is summarized below. Wietse There are three major levels of Postfix-upstart integration.

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Matthias Andree: > Am 26.02.2011 00:52, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 10:50:45 +0100, kristof.vans...@telenet.be wrote: > > > >> This problem exist in the 2.7 and 2.8 branch: > >> > >> In file included from attr_clnt.c:77: > >> /usr/include/unistd.h:329: error: conflicting type

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Thank you for your informations and very good documentation! Has anybody an eye to systemd/postfix because systemd will replace sysvinit/upstart in the upcoming Fedora 16 and so also in future RHEL-Versions and maybe replace upstart/sysvinit sooner or later in other distributions because the desig

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Reindl Harald: > Thank you for your informations and very good documentation! Please fix your mail reader. My posting had: To: Postfix users Reply-To: Postfix users Yet your response was: To: Postfix users CC: Wietse Venema Please respect the Reply-To: header, at least on

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:33:39 +0100 Matthias Andree articulated: > Am 26.02.2011 00:52, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 10:50:45 +0100, kristof.vans...@telenet.be > > wrote: > > > >> This problem exist in the 2.7 and 2.8 branch: > >> > >> In file included from attr_clnt.c:77: >

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:33:49 -0500 (EST) Wietse Venema articulated: > Reindl Harald: > > Thank you for your informations and very good documentation! > > Please fix your mail reader. > > My posting had: > > To: Postfix users > Reply-To: Postfix users > > Yet your response was: > >

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.02.2011 20:24, schrieb Jerry: > On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:33:49 -0500 (EST) > Wietse Venema articulated: > >> Reindl Harald: >>> Thank you for your informations and very good documentation! >> >> Please fix your mail reader. >> >> My posting had: >> >> To: Postfix users >> Reply-To:

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 18:33:39 +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 26.02.2011 00:52, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 10:50:45 +0100, kristof.vans...@telenet.be wrote: > > > >> This problem exist in the 2.7 and 2.8 branch: > >> > >> In file included from attr_clnt.c:77: > >> /usr/

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 27.02.2011 20:41, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 18:33:39 +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > >> Am 26.02.2011 00:52, schrieb Sahil Tandon: >>> On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 10:50:45 +0100, kristof.vans...@telenet.be wrote: >>> This problem exist in the 2.7 and 2.8 branch: In

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 20:44:36 +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 27.02.2011 20:41, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > > On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 18:33:39 +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > > > >> Am 26.02.2011 00:52, schrieb Sahil Tandon: > >>> On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 10:50:45 +0100, kristof.vans...@telenet.be wro

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Daniel Bromberg
On 2/27/2011 1:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Thank you for your informations and very good documentation! Has anybody an eye to systemd/postfix because systemd will replace sysvinit/upstart in the upcoming Fedora 16 and so also in future RHEL-Versions and maybe replace upstart/sysvinit sooner or l

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 02/27/2011 08:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: sorry that was because normally i use "reply all" what is needed on some mailing-lists which are sending the message with "from" as the users address and if you use there "reply" only nobody on the list will ever see a message That is normal beha

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.02.2011 21:55, schrieb Jeroen Geilman: > On 02/27/2011 08:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> sorry that was because normally i use "reply all" what is needed >> on some mailing-lists which are sending the message with "from" >> as the users address and if you use there "reply" only nobody on >>

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Sahil Tandon: > > Yeah. The simplest thing would be ditching FreeBSD 7.1 support (FreeBSD > > 7.1 will be discontinued after tomorrow). > > Agreed; but for the record, the patch we use in ports does not break the > build on my RELENG_7_1 virtual machine. I have verified that the patch does not b

test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread jeffrey j donovan
greetings how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. Those that have verizon need to use 587 I want to watch each step through so that i can make sure I have a clean path. -j

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
jeffrey j donovan: > greetings > how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? > > I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. > Those that have verizon need to use 587 > I want to watch each step through so that i can make sure I have a clean path. If t

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/27/2011 3:21 PM, jeffrey j donovan wrote: greetings how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? # telnet localhost 587 if you get a greeting from postfix, then postfix is listening. Good. If you require STARTTLS encryption, you can test that with # openssl s_client -conne

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* jeffrey j donovan : > greetings > how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? > > I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. > Those that have verizon need to use 587 I want to watch each step through so > that i can make sure I have a clean path. If

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Wietse Venema: > jeffrey j donovan: > > greetings > > how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? > > > > I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. > > Those that have verizon need to use 587 > > I want to watch each step through so that i can make su

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/27/2011 3:44 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Wietse Venema: jeffrey j donovan: greetings how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. Those that have verizon need to use 587 I want to watch each step through

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Noel Jones: > On 2/27/2011 3:44 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > > Wietse Venema: > >> jeffrey j donovan: > >>> greetings > >>> how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? > >>> > >>> I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. > >>> Those that have verizon ne

Re: [PATCH] postfix won't build on FREEBSD 7.2+

2011-02-27 Thread Pau Amma
On Sun, February 27, 2011 9:14 pm, Wietse Venema wrote: > By the way, closefrom() does not seem to have a manpage before > FreeBSD 7.3, and that manpage says "The closefrom() function first > appeared in FreeBSD 8.0". Come on, people. That's correct, technically at least. (And as far as FreeBSD hi

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/27/2011 4:04 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Noel Jones: On 2/27/2011 3:44 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Wietse Venema: jeffrey j donovan: greetings how can i test submission to port 587 from command line ? I am setting up a relay for my some users to use when they are off site. Those that have v

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Noel Jones: > $ openssl s_client -quiet -starttls smtp -connect host:587 > helo client.example.com > mail from: > >>> > >>> Caution: s_client uses R and Q for itself, so send lower case commands > >>> (rcpt to and quit). > >>> > >>> Wietse > >> > >> I believe "r" and "q" are reserv

Re: test submission on 587

2011-02-27 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/27/2011 4:33 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Noel Jones: $ openssl s_client -quiet -starttls smtp -connect host:587 helo client.example.com mail from: Caution: s_client uses R and Q for itself, so send lower case commands (rcpt to and quit). Wietse I believe "r" and "q" are reserved a

Re: Postfix/Upstart, the final conclusion

2011-02-27 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 07:10:09PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > Thank you for your informations and very good documentation! > > Has anybody an eye to systemd/postfix because systemd will > replace sysvinit/upstart in the upcoming Fedora 16 and > so also in future RHEL-Versions and maybe replace