Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 4:19:50 PM -0500 Frank Cusack wrote: I can't think of a scenario for ANY type of server that would *require* multiple PTR records. I coincidentally just came across such a case. zeroconf uses multiple PTR records. Not in .in-addr.arpa zones, so you don't u

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Noel Jones
equire* multiple PTR records. Not that they are infallible, but certainly neither did the presumably smarter-than-any-of-us guys that designed the new IPv6-friendlier getinfo() interfaces. But I also can't think of a reason to not handle it. -frank Postfix supports clients with multiple PT

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
ntages you describe are not valid. As a matter of fact, I don't know of a scenario that would *require* an email emitting IP to have multiple PTRs. Can you post such a scenario? I can't think of a scenario for ANY type of server that would *require* multiple PTR records. Not that they

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 2:29 PM: > Not to be rude, but I'm not sure why you asked me the question in the > first place. It was in fact a great question. Your response however > was merely to dismiss my problem. So it seems like your question was > just rhetoric designed to sink this

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
ge to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downside. What's the downside Frank? Good question. I can't accept mail from hosts with multiple PTR records without manually whitelisting them. Additionally, I can't even tell that I'm experiencing a failure until it is repo

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:12 PM: > On January 12, 2010 12:09:28 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner > wrote: >> Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: >> >>> I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage >>> to accepti

Re: THREAD STILL CLOSED: (was Re: multiple PTR records)

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 1:10:51 PM -0500 Victor Duchovni wrote: If you have a specific use case in which you need guidance to configure Postfix, please start a new thread, without the polemics. That is why I stated originally, for my specific problem case I will be writing in another thread. I am

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 12:09:28 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downside. What's the downside Frank? Good question

THREAD STILL CLOSED: (was Re: multiple PTR records)

2010-01-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 01:04:56PM -0500, Frank Cusack wrote: > On January 12, 2010 12:24:20 PM -0500 Frank Cusack > wrote: >> Apparently it only "honors" the first PTR record that getnameinfo() >> returns to it. Additionally this appears to be a conscious decision >> and in part designed to im

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: > I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage > to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downside. What's the downside Frank? -- Stan

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
philosophy, be liberal in what you accept. Note: I agree that a single PTR record is better. My opinion is irrelevant. I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downside. -frank

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Robert Fournerat
Quoting Frank Cusack : Apparently it only "honors" the first PTR record that getnameinfo() returns to it. Additionally this appears to be a conscious decision and in part designed to impose postfix's sense of order on the world. -frank In this case at least, I think, "postfix's sense of o

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
b in general) what I can gather about multiple PTR records is that postfix is adamant that hosts should not have multiple PTR records. Who cares? In other words, Why does postfix not handle hosts with multiple PTR records correctly? Apparently it only "honors" the first PTR record th

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:27:43AM -0500, Frank Cusack wrote: > After searching the mailing list (and the web in general) what I > can gather about multiple PTR records is that postfix is adamant > that hosts should not have multiple PTR records. > > Who cares? It's l

THREAD CLOSED: (was Re: multiple PTR records)

2010-01-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
this one focused > on the policy around multiple PTR records. Just start the other thread if it is on topic. No point in starting a flame war instead. THREAD CLOSED. -- Viktor. Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To&

multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
After searching the mailing list (and the web in general) what I can gather about multiple PTR records is that postfix is adamant that hosts should not have multiple PTR records. Who cares? It's like saying DNS names should not have underscores or spaces. Yes we don't like it, but