Re: TONE IT DOWN: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 05.02.2015 um 16:08 schrieb Wietse Venema: li...@rhsoft.net: what you you smoked to only quote the part of a sentence which makes no Reindl, tone it down sorry, but that style of quote out-of-context and then explain me what a PTR is like i would not know such things better as most peop

TONE IT DOWN: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread Wietse Venema
li...@rhsoft.net: > what you you smoked to only quote the part of a sentence which makes no Reindl, tone it down. Your spam load is not the same as what other people see. Do not assume that what works for you is good advice for the rest of the world. In my case, PTR-based rules do not solve any p

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 05.02.2015 um 15:28 schrieb Marcus Bointon: On 5 Feb 2015, at 14:58, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: ... you don't need your ISP to configure that simple DNS record for your own domain Actually you usually do. When anyone does a reverse lookup on your IP, it will point at the ISP's DNS, not you

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread Marcus Bointon
On 5 Feb 2015, at 14:58, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: > > ... you don't need your ISP to configure that simple DNS record for your own > domain Actually you usually do. When anyone does a reverse lookup on your IP, it will point at the ISP's DNS, not yours, so unless you have reverse delegation set

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread Michael Storz
Am 2015-02-05 14:50, schrieb Микаел Бак: Hi there, On 02/04/2015 11:06 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: the truth is that a xx.xx.xx.xx-static-dsl.isp.tld is not a mailserver just becaus eit contains the word "static" - in fact most of them are ordinary office dsl lines with clients behind True.

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread Микаел Бак
Hi again, On 02/05/2015 02:58 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: frankly SPF is no rocket science and you don't need your ISP to configure that simple DNS record for your own domain Rocket science or not, most domain I have seen has NOT set up any SPF. And many people argue that SPF creates more p

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 05.02.2015 um 14:50 schrieb Микаел Бак: Hi there, On 02/04/2015 11:06 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: the truth is that a xx.xx.xx.xx-static-dsl.isp.tld is not a mailserver just becaus eit contains the word "static" - in fact most of them are ordinary office dsl lines with clients behind Tru

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread Микаел Бак
Hi there, On 02/04/2015 11:06 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: the truth is that a xx.xx.xx.xx-static-dsl.isp.tld is not a mailserver just becaus eit contains the word "static" - in fact most of them are ordinary office dsl lines with clients behind True. Not nessassarily a mail server, but it co

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von li...@rhsoft.net: Am 05.02.2015 um 11:03 schrieb lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: You are putting too much of meaning in a DNS token. There is no global rule or RFC about the interpretation of the string forming this token. I'm totaly free to call my host bad-host-static-0815.example.com. whic

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 05.02.2015 um 11:03 schrieb lst_ho...@kwsoft.de: You are putting too much of meaning in a DNS token. There is no global rule or RFC about the interpretation of the string forming this token. I'm totaly free to call my host bad-host-static-0815.example.com. which is no problem because it don

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-05 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von li...@rhsoft.net: Am 04.02.2015 um 22:54 schrieb Noel Jones: On 2/4/2015 3:12 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: *sadly* that sort of incoming rules is not widespreaded enough, otherwise spam from infected botnet zombies would no longer exist and frankly the rule for "IPhfc.comcastbus

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 04.02.2015 um 22:54 schrieb Noel Jones: On 2/4/2015 3:12 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: *sadly* that sort of incoming rules is not widespreaded enough, otherwise spam from infected botnet zombies would no longer exist and frankly the rule for "IPhfc.comcastbusiness.net" is manually written

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/4/2015 3:12 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: > > > *sadly* that sort of incoming rules is not widespreaded enough, > otherwise spam from infected botnet zombies would no longer exist > and frankly the rule for "IPhfc.comcastbusiness.net" is manually > written by look at the incoming junk amou

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 04.02.2015 um 21:51 schrieb Noel Jones: On 2/4/2015 2:37 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: it don't matter if it matches - if you are coming with such a PTR you are rejected - on my setup this is skipped at least if the envelope domain has a SPF policy listing that IP or if you are on one of 11 p

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/04/2015 03:51 PM, Noel Jones wrote: Which reminds me that the OP should register his domain and IP on dnswl.org (free and easy). -- Noel Jones thanks for the tip. Just one more action item.

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/04/2015 03:46 PM, Noel Jones wrote: On 2/4/2015 1:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have been 'working' with my new ISP for a couple weeks to get the rDNS setup for my server move (I am changing ISPs for a number of reasons). I was assured on signing that setting up rDNS was 'easy'; it is

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/4/2015 2:37 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: > > it don't matter if it matches - if you are coming with such a PTR > you are rejected - on my setup this is skipped at least if the > envelope domain has a SPF policy listing that IP or if you are on > one of 11 public DNSWL > > ptr-check.sh 50-253-

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread Noel Jones
On 2/4/2015 1:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have been 'working' with my new ISP for a couple weeks to get the > rDNS setup for my server move (I am changing ISPs for a number of > reasons). I was assured on signing that setting up rDNS was 'easy'; > it is not. DIGing up the SOA on my IP rDNS

Re: Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 04.02.2015 um 20:47 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: I have been 'working' with my new ISP for a couple weeks to get the rDNS setup for my server move (I am changing ISPs for a number of reasons). I was assured on signing that setting up rDNS was 'easy'; it is not. DIGing up the SOA on my IP rDNS te

Working around recalcitrant ISP wrt rDNS

2015-02-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have been 'working' with my new ISP for a couple weeks to get the rDNS setup for my server move (I am changing ISPs for a number of reasons). I was assured on signing that setting up rDNS was 'easy'; it is not. DIGing up the SOA on my IP rDNS tends to indicate that they have not updated tha