Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-10 Thread Richard James Salts
On Saturday, 10 October 2020 1:59:33 PM AEDT Demi M. Obenour wrote: > On 10/9/20 9:48 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > >> What are the semantics of a From: header with multiple addresses? > > > > The message purports to be the work of multiple authors. Such a message > > is required to have a "Sender

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 11:46:22PM -0400, Demi M. Obenour wrote: > > Actually, Outlook does exactly that, and other MUAs would have come on > > board if there was good cause to do that. At this point however, nobody > > is investing much many in MUA development. All the $$$ are going into > > wa

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Demi M. Obenour
On 10/9/20 11:06 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:59:33PM -0400, Demi M. Obenour wrote: > >> I love DKIM, but it should have been on the Sender header and not >> the From header. However, for that to work, MUAs would have had to >> display something like "f...@example.com c

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Ron Wheeler
I am also the family genealogist and just moved to Gramps from FTM. I am not sure what "multiple from addresses" actually means. It is not possible for an email to come from more than one email address at a time in reality. Of course, as you already know, the sending e-mail system can put what

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:59:33PM -0400, Demi M. Obenour wrote: > I love DKIM, but it should have been on the Sender header and not > the From header. However, for that to work, MUAs would have had to > display something like "f...@example.com claims that this message > is from f...@example.com

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Demi M. Obenour
On 10/9/20 9:48 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >> What are the semantics of a From: header with multiple addresses? > The message purports to be the work of multiple authors. Such a message > is required to have a "Sender" header, but in most cases that constraint > is unlikely to be enforced. I love

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 09:28:58PM -0400, Demi M. Obenour wrote: > > Multiple addresses in one From: header are allowed by the RFC 5322 spec. > > Multiple From: headers in a message are not OK. > > What are the semantics of a From: header with multiple addresses? The message purports to be the w

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Demi M. Obenour
On 10/9/20 8:45 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: > Ron Wheeler: >> I am also the family genealogist and just moved to Gramps from FTM. >> >> I am not sure what "multiple from addresses" actually means. It is not >> possible for an email to come from more than one email address at a time >> in reality. >

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Wietse Venema
Ron Wheeler: > I am also the family genealogist and just moved to Gramps from FTM. > > I am not sure what "multiple from addresses" actually means. It is not > possible for an email to come from more than one email address at a time > in reality. Multiple addresses in one From: header are allow

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Pau Peris
Thanks a lot Ron, I probably didn't explain myself well. The contact form was fixed before posting this topic here, but I'm currently managing a personal server where I host family websites among many other services and also a Postfix setup where I handle about 8 different domains. As you said, I

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Ron Wheeler
You need to fix your contact form. There is no such thing as multiple from addresses. As Tom said, your contact form is not creating an email. It is collecting information that it processes to produce some intelligent response or that it sends to you (or an automated proxy) requesting that you (

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Bill Cole
On 9 Oct 2020, at 8:09, Ron Wheeler wrote: That information that the user supplies should not be in the headers at all in any message that you get. It is just data. As Tom pointed out, the email to you or to the address entered on the form should be from your website not from e-mail addresses p

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-09 Thread Pau Peris
Thanks a lot for you comments, opinion and help! :) As Tom said, before posting this question here, I already noticed the logic behaviour handling the contact form was wrong because emails should never be sent on behalf of someone else. When I developed that website, it's my dad's website, I did i

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-08 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 07-10-2020 02:27, Pau Peris wrote: I'm hosting my dad's webpage which has a contact form (which should be improved to avoid spam and/or bots) and from time to time someone types multiple email addresses in the from field of the form so contact emails with multiple from addresses like "from: h.

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-07 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 10:35:39PM +, Pau Peris wrote: > Could you explain to me which would be the benefits of implementing > such behaviour on a filter or milter instead of doing it on > header_checks? As I wrote upthread, and you quoted in your message: > > RFC5322.From syntax is rather n

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-07 Thread Pau Peris
Hi Viktor, thanks a lot for your opinion. Could you explain to me which would be the benefits of implementing such behaviour on a filter or milter instead of doing it on header_checks? Also, do you know in which cases would be useful to allow or make use of multiple From addresses? Just in case

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-06 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 12:27:09AM +, Pau Peris wrote: > I'm hosting my dad's webpage which has a contact form (which should be > improved to avoid spam and/or bots) and from time to time someone > types multiple email addresses in the from field of the form so > contact emails with multiple f

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-06 Thread Pau Peris
I'm hosting my dad's webpage which has a contact form (which should be improved to avoid spam and/or bots) and from time to time someone types multiple email addresses in the from field of the form so contact emails with multiple from addresses like "from: h...@example.com, f...@example.net" are ge

Re: Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-06 Thread Noel Jones
On 10/6/2020 6:52 PM, Pau Peris wrote: Hi, is there a sender restriction to reject a message with multiple from addresses? Which would be? Thanks, If you're seeing multiple addresses in a single From: header you may be able to carefully craft a header_checks to detect them, but detecti

Sender restriction to reject message with multiple from addresses

2020-10-06 Thread Pau Peris
Hi, is there a sender restriction to reject a message with multiple from addresses? Which would be? Thanks, -- Pau Aquest correu electrònic conté informació de caràcter confidencial dirigida exclusivament al seu/s destinatari/s en còpia present. Tant mateix, queda prohibida la seva divulgació,