On 10/9/20 11:06 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 10:59:33PM -0400, Demi M. Obenour wrote:
> 
>> I love DKIM, but it should have been on the Sender header and not
>> the From header.  However, for that to work, MUAs would have had to
>> display something like "f...@example.com claims that this message
>> is from f...@example.com and b...@example.com", and they do not.
> 
> Actually, Outlook does exactly that, and other MUAs would have come on
> board if there was good cause to do that.  At this point however, nobody
> is investing much many in MUA development.  All the $$$ are going into
> walled-garden cloud webmail systems. :-(

Someone should probably file enhancement requests with other MUAs.
And at least NeoMutt and Thunderbird are actively developed.

>> That lead to the current design.
> 
> You're perhaps confusing DKIM with DMARC.  DKIM just signs the message
> content and whatever headers it is configured to sign.  It is mere
> integrity protection, not policy.  The signing domain is determined from
> the selector and the "d" field in the DKIM header, and is not tied to
> either From or Sender.
> 
> DKIM is fine.  The actual breakage is in DMARC.

Sadly, it is too late to change DMARC.  Hopefully we can add a
new header that means what From once did.  Doing away with DMARC
isn't an option either, as it creates a massive security hole.

Demi

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