Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-13 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 4:19:50 PM -0500 Frank Cusack wrote: I can't think of a scenario for ANY type of server that would *require* multiple PTR records. I coincidentally just came across such a case. zeroconf uses multiple PTR records. Not in .in-addr.arpa zones, so you don't use them to resol

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Noel Jones
On 1/12/2010 3:19 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: On January 12, 2010 2:52:58 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 2:29 PM: Is it your opinion that the disadvantages I've described aren't valid? When it comes to multiple PTRs on a single email emitting IP, yes, it is my

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 2:52:58 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 2:29 PM: Is it your opinion that the disadvantages I've described aren't valid? When it comes to multiple PTRs on a single email emitting IP, yes, it is my opinion that that the disadvantages you des

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 2:29 PM: > Not to be rude, but I'm not sure why you asked me the question in the > first place. It was in fact a great question. Your response however > was merely to dismiss my problem. So it seems like your question was > just rhetoric designed to sink this

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 12:28:10 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:12 PM: On January 12, 2010 12:09:28 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage to acceptin

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:12 PM: > On January 12, 2010 12:09:28 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner > wrote: >> Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: >> >>> I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage >>> to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downsid

Re: THREAD STILL CLOSED: (was Re: multiple PTR records)

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 1:10:51 PM -0500 Victor Duchovni wrote: If you have a specific use case in which you need guidance to configure Postfix, please start a new thread, without the polemics. That is why I stated originally, for my specific problem case I will be writing in another thread. I am

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 12:09:28 PM -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downside. What's the downside Frank? Good question. I can't ac

THREAD STILL CLOSED: (was Re: multiple PTR records)

2010-01-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 01:04:56PM -0500, Frank Cusack wrote: > On January 12, 2010 12:24:20 PM -0500 Frank Cusack > wrote: >> Apparently it only "honors" the first PTR record that getnameinfo() >> returns to it. Additionally this appears to be a conscious decision >> and in part designed to im

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Cusack put forth on 1/12/2010 12:04 PM: > I don't know why you would thank Wietse when there is no disadvantage > to accepting multiple PTR records. There is only a downside. What's the downside Frank? -- Stan

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 12:24:20 PM -0500 Frank Cusack wrote: Apparently it only "honors" the first PTR record that getnameinfo() returns to it. Additionally this appears to be a conscious decision and in part designed to impose postfix's sense of order on the world. Well, I see part of the probl

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Robert Fournerat
Quoting Frank Cusack : Apparently it only "honors" the first PTR record that getnameinfo() returns to it. Additionally this appears to be a conscious decision and in part designed to impose postfix's sense of order on the world. -frank In this case at least, I think, "postfix's sense of o

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread Frank Cusack
On January 12, 2010 11:07:25 AM -0600 "/dev/rob0" wrote: It's hard to focus on what you said when we don't know what you said. :) I thought it was pretty clear. :) On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:27:43AM -0500, Frank Cusack wrote: After searching the mailing list (and the web in general) what I

Re: multiple PTR records

2010-01-12 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:27:43AM -0500, Frank Cusack wrote: > After searching the mailing list (and the web in general) what I > can gather about multiple PTR records is that postfix is adamant > that hosts should not have multiple PTR records. > > Who cares? It's like saying DNS names should

THREAD CLOSED: (was Re: multiple PTR records)

2010-01-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:27:43AM -0500, Frank Cusack wrote: > Yes we don't like it, but it's easy for postfix to accept and deal with it. You write the code, deploy it on your systems, and suffer the consequences. > I'll post my actual problem in another thread, to keep this one focused > on t