Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-30 Thread DTNX/NGMX Postmaster
On 27/11/2010, at 06:59, Michael J Wise wrote: >> Microsoft pay no heed to standards, ... > > Microsoft pays heed to standards, or a lot of the Internet just wouldn't work. This does seem a bit funny, given the subject under discussion. I understand that it is a big gorilla, and hard to turn on

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-27 Thread Wietse Venema
Victor Duchovni: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:03:58PM -0800, Michael J Wise wrote: > > > I do not know how fast (or even if) this can be addressed, it's so > > not my department, but I will do my best to present the issue to the > > right people and assert its importance and annoyance factor to th

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-27 Thread Morten P.D. Stevens
2010/11/26 Terry Gilsenan : > Microsoft's b0rged hosted exchange and frontbridge system is very broken. Yes, that's right. The other question is ... Why has Microsoft changed from Postfix to Forefront? Postfix is faster, safer and more compatible with RFC. > Added to this sender verification d

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-27 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 26.11.2010 22:36, schrieb Terry Gilsenan: > ___ > From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On > Behalf Of Arnim Sommer [rantho...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 11:11 PM > To: postfix-users@postfix.org > Subjec

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:03:58PM -0800, Michael J Wise wrote: > I do not know how fast (or even if) this can be addressed, it's so > not my department, but I will do my best to present the issue to the > right people and assert its importance and annoyance factor to the rest > of the community,

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 09:59:08PM -0800, Michael J Wise wrote: > That having been said > > On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Terry Gilsenan wrote: Yes, Terry was posturing. No need to take it too seriously. Putting the posturing aside, there is an underlying interoperability issue. The new softw

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Michael J Wise wrote: > On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Stephen Thorne wrote: >> Our only option at this point is to turn off pipelining when talking to >> frontbridge, because frontbridge's pipelines are broken. This is a >> terribly negative thing. It would be much be

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Stephen Thorne wrote: > On 2010-11-26, Michael J Wise wrote: >> > > Michael, > > Here is a very quick description of the issue. > > Frontbridge advertises that it supports pipelined requests. But it > disconnects after the current request is served if any request i

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Stephen Thorne
On 2010-11-26, Michael J Wise wrote: > Michael, Here is a very quick description of the issue. Frontbridge advertises that it supports pipelined requests. But it disconnects after the current request is served if any request in the pipeline is a QUIT. This causes a serious problem because send

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Michael J Wise
ofFullDisclosure, I work at what was formerly known as BigFish, then Frontbridge, but is now Forefront Online for Office, in the capacity of Knowledge Engineer (Spam Analysis), and among other things help out with abuse and deliverability issues. And also... this discussion really doesn't seem

RE: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Terry Gilsenan
___ From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Arnim Sommer [rantho...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, 26 November 2010 11:11 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com >Hello, >unfortunately, @

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Arnim Sommer
2010/11/26 Wietse Venema : > Arnim Sommer: >> Hello, >> unfortunately, @work we are hosted at microsoftonline.com. >> >> Since monday, we are getting mail delays with one of our partners, and >> I could track it down to address verification getting timeouts. >> >> Has anyone else seen that problem,

Re: Mail.Global.FrontBridge.com

2010-11-26 Thread Wietse Venema
Arnim Sommer: > Hello, > unfortunately, @work we are hosted at microsoftonline.com. > > Since monday, we are getting mail delays with one of our partners, and > I could track it down to address verification getting timeouts. > > Has anyone else seen that problem, or is it just one isolated proble