Re: adding transport functionality causes a mail loop

2020-11-24 Thread Steven Jones
Hi, I had missed something simple I guess, lists..xx.nz local: in the transport file Once in mail gets delivered to mailman OK. regards Steven From: Koga Hayashi Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2020 3:45 PM To: Steven Jones ; postfix-users@postfix.org

RE: adding transport functionality causes a mail loop

2020-11-24 Thread Koga Hayashi
Steven, A bit more information about your postfix server configuration will be greatly appreciated. postconf -n If possible, let us see the log when loop occurs. regards From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org On Behalf Of Steven Jones Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 8:49 AM To: postfix-users@

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Peter
On 25/11/20 1:53 am, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: However, this thread is off-topic. We should close it with conclusion: don't avoid duplicate mail based on Message-Id: A better conclusion would be to not consider messages with a missing or empty Message-Id to be duplicates of each other. I

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Peter
On 24/11/20 3:56 am, Wietse Venema wrote: Jaroslaw Rafa: Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 10:18:39 D'Arcy Cain pisze: I used to have a client who was not getting emails from one of his friends. Turned out that the friend's client/MUA was not adding the message ID. Doesn't Postfix automatically add M

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 24 Nov 2020, at 17:23, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > That's the reason why I ignore the specifics of your setup and concentrate > on de-duplication in general. Interesting rationalization. But sure, have it your way. -- 'A man like that could inspire a handful of broken men to conquer a cou

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 24.11.2020 o godz. 16:25:54 @lbutlr pisze: > > Note that the headers you include have NEITHER a reply-to header NOR an > X-Listname header. Why? Because those are added BY MY MAILSERVER. [...] > Not talking about average mail users, Never have been talking about > average mail users. This s

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 24 Nov 2020, at 15:08, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 24.11.2020 o godz. 14:37:13 @lbutlr pisze: >>> Only the copy that went through the mailing list has those, >> >> No. >> >> Please re-read what I wrote. > > So, I looked through my archives and found an actual message from this > mailing list

Re: adding AV scanning to working Postfix/SA system

2020-11-24 Thread Kenren Taisho
Hi Richard, Amavisd-new can be extended to support SAVDI. I am using it in one of my installation. Just google search amavisd + savdi, there are numerous documentation on how to do so. Kind regards On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 9:07 PM Richard Siddall wrote: > michael Schumacher wrote: > > Joe, > > >

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 24.11.2020 o godz. 14:37:13 @lbutlr pisze: > > Only the copy that went through the mailing list has those, > > No. > > Please re-read what I wrote. So, I looked through my archives and found an actual message from this mailing list, that someone sent both to me and to list. Below are the ac

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 24 Nov 2020, at 13:57, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 24.11.2020 o godz. 12:20:23 @lbutlr pisze: >>> I'm not talking about client getting confused about threading. I'm talking >>> about the fact that when you get only an off-list message and reply to it, >>> the reply goes only to the original sen

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 24.11.2020 o godz. 12:20:23 @lbutlr pisze: > > I'm not talking about client getting confused about threading. I'm talking > > about the fact that when you get only an off-list message and reply to it, > > the reply goes only to the original sender and not to the list, > > No, that is not the

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 24 Nov 2020, at 02:44, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 16:29:13 @lbutlr pisze: >> >> This is not accurate. First, the direct message almost certainly arrives >> first. > > Unless you use greylisting That's a whole different issue and anyone using greylisting now I would never

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 23 Nov 2020, at 23:55, Bob Proulx wrote: > @lbutlr wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> But so many people use Gmail these days that they have gotten used to >>> the way Gmail does things. And Gmail de-duplicates and saves the >>> first message with any particular message-id that arrives. And then

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 23 Nov 2020, at 23:51, Bob Proulx wrote: > @lbutlr wrote: >> On 23 Nov 2020, at 15:27, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: >>> Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 11:49:39 D'Arcy Cain pisze: If someone replies to a mailing list and copies the sender then that person gets two copies. The above recipe avo

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread @lbutlr
On 24 Nov 2020, at 05:50, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 23.11.20 16:30, @lbutlr wrote: >> Or you use procmail/Sieve to add a reply-to header to messages that have >> the mailing list email in the headers. > It's silly to set up procmail rule to remove "duplicate" message and then > set up ru

Re: adding AV scanning to working Postfix/SA system

2020-11-24 Thread Joe Acquisto-j4
> michael Schumacher wrote: >> Joe, >> Due to some recent malware (in attachments, obvious stuff) wanted to add AV > scanning. I gather "Amavis-new" is the hot ticket these days, >>> I deal with Sophos products and would like to use their linux product to do > the scanning. Seems to be preci

Re: adding AV scanning to working Postfix/SA system

2020-11-24 Thread Richard Siddall
michael Schumacher wrote: Joe, Due to some recent malware (in attachments, obvious stuff) wanted to add AV scanning. I gather "Amavis-new" is the hot ticket these days, I deal with Sophos products and would like to use their linux product to do the scanning. Seems to be precious little on

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.11.20 13:50, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: note that it's possible to Bcc: message to mailing list so it does not contain list address in To:/Cc: ... as this message clearly shows. I set mailing lists not to avoid duplicate messages (and usually drop direct mail). However, this thread

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 11:49:39 D'Arcy Cain pisze: If someone replies to a mailing list and copies the sender then that person gets two copies. The above recipe avoids that. On 11/23/20 5:27 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: If someone gets two copies - a direct one and the mailing list one - then h

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Richard Damon
On 11/24/20 1:51 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > @lbutlr wrote: >> On 23 Nov 2020, at 15:27, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: >>> Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 11:49:39 D'Arcy Cain pisze: If someone replies to a mailing list and copies the sender then that person gets two copies. The above recipe avoids that. >>

Re: empty message-ID

2020-11-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa
Dnia 23.11.2020 o godz. 16:29:13 @lbutlr pisze: > > This is not accurate. First, the direct message almost certainly arrives > first. Unless you use greylisting :) - in that case list message usually arrives first, as the direct message is generally from previously unknown sender and has to wait.