Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-16 Thread Zak Elep
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:37 AM, eric pareja wrote: > It points to something I've observed about Filipino techies. Majority > are IT CONSUMERS, not PRODUCERS. > There has to be a change in perception of roles and the value of being > producers and not just consumers (this includes sales and market

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-16 Thread eric pareja
It points to something I've observed about Filipino techies. Majority are IT CONSUMERS, not PRODUCERS. There has to be a change in perception of roles and the value of being producers and not just consumers (this includes sales and marketing because they are just an extension of us being a market o

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-16 Thread Zak Elep
Sorry, was busy :P Actually brought the first point up earlier, although in a disinterested form. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Brian Baquiran wrote: > I'm surprised it took so long for someone to bring these up: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Zak Elep wrote: >> >> 1.  Filipinos don't ca

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-16 Thread Brian Baquiran
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to bring these up: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Zak Elep wrote: > > 1. Filipinos don't care. Fsck your POS software if I can't do XXX. > 2. Filipinos don't write good software. Or at least, they think they > can't write code as good as others. >

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-16 Thread Zak Elep
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote: > I am not talking about making money at all - open source or not. > > I'm trying to discuss why there aren't more Filipinos contributing, > regardless of reason. M-x devils-advocate-troll-sub-mode 1. Filipinos don't care. Fsck your POS soft

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-14 Thread Miguel Paraz
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote: > >> I remember one conclusion from last time was that if someone had the >> talent and the time, they would better spend it on a sideline rather >> on working on an open source project.

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Tinsay
-- mike t. > >From: Wilfred Villarruz >To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List > >Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 12:44:16 >Subject: Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions > >contributing to open source is not only about participat

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread JP Loh
But I think OP *IS* referring to contributions to open source projects in terms of development/code. KahelOS is an open source project worth noting. Although it's just a distro, there's still some development time spent on it. Not 100% sure on this but there may be Filipino developers who contribu

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread hard wyrd
Exactly. I don't contribute code directly to projects. Since I feel more effective in evangelization and getting the word out there, that's where I focus my efforts. No matter how good a project is, or how solid the code is, if nobody is willing to use it or let others know it exists, then it's us

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Wilfred Villarruz
contributing to open source is not only about participating in the development of the source codes or programming. we can contribute by using, advocating, and helping other organizations and individuals with need and less money to acquire expensive commercial software, use free and open-source sof

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Zak Elep
I guess people just don't do it for fun anymore. People just tend to like working on big profitable projects, and most proprietary projects are that way; they don't realize the value of small projects with a genuine focus on solving some problem despite little or no profit. Another, perhaps more

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Zak Elep
SoC is not just the only way. Google recently introduced another program aimed at younger people (e.g. high school or earlier) for mentoring on open source projects. On Feb 6, 2011 11:19 PM, "JP Loh" wrote: > Invite mentors and students to join SoC? > > I remember reading a year or two ago about s

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Michael Janapin wrote: > I was told that Pag-IBIG has no centralized database yet. I am just thinking > out loud if PLUG could help in piloting an open source solution for them. I > think that we can all benefit from this. > > Just my two cents. > > Go grab some sal

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, strong wrote: > I believed, one good way on contributing to open source is to drive > events/seminars/trainings to our local Schools/Colleges/Universities to > promote it, and to teach/inform our youngsters. > > my two cents. :) > contributing to open source is a

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread strong
I believed, one good way on contributing to open source is to drive events/seminars/trainings to our local Schools/Colleges/Universities to promote it, and to teach/inform our youngsters. my two cents. :) On 02/07/2011 08:40 AM, Michael Janapin wrote: I was told that Pag-IBIG has no centrali

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread strong
this is OK, assuming that they are interested on open sourcing their system :) On 02/07/2011 08:40 AM, Michael Janapin wrote: I was told that Pag-IBIG has no centralized database yet. I am just thinking out loud if PLUG could help in piloting an open source solution for them. I think that w

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Miguel Paraz wrote: > I remember one conclusion from last time was that if someone had the > talent and the time, they would better spend it on a sideline rather > on working on an open source project. thats a very old fashioned view of open source. there are so

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Janapin
I was told that Pag-IBIG has no centralized database yet. I am just thinking out loud if PLUG could help in piloting an open source solution for them. I think that we can all benefit from this. Just my two cents. Go grab some salt and water. Lol. Michael Janapin PBTS Baguio City http://mulingsil

Re: [plug] The Philippines in Open Source Contributions

2011-02-06 Thread JP Loh
Invite mentors and students to join SoC? I remember reading a year or two ago about someone mentoring in Drupal and two more other people in other projects. On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 22:48, Miguel Paraz wrote: > Hi, > Reviving this topic - we talked about this years ago but I think it's > worth rev