Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Milan, Milan Zamazal wrote: > Please note I'm unable to join right now, I hope I'll be able to start > doing something in September or October. Please just don't remove nor > orphan the package in the meantime. Ok, no problem. Groetjes, Pet

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-25 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "PVE" == Peter Van Eynde > writes: PVE> Do you want to take over completely or as part of the PVE> 'packaging team'? I prefer to keep slime formally under the packaging team. Please note I'm unable to join right now, I hope I'll be able to start doing something in September o

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Milan and friends, Milan Zamazal wrote: > If you give up on the package and nobody wants it, I'll probably take it > over. Not that I have any reason to suppose it would be less tricky for > me, but SLIME is important enough to be available i

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-24 Thread Christian Lynbech
> "Milan" == Milan Zamazal writes: Milan> The important thing is how much the released versions (whatever Milan> the _release_ is) retain backward compatibility and whether they Milan> are stable enough or the stable versions can be easily Milan> identified. If most versions in SCM satisfy t

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-24 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "RS" == Rupert Swarbrick > writes: RS> Hmm, so as I said (somewhere in this thread), quite a few lisp RS> libraries don't have "proper" releases, or the official releases RS> lag so far behind the scm that they're pretty much irrelevant. It is not that important whether th

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-22 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
Milan Zamazal writes: > RS> I don't think that debian packages are a waste of time. > > It is not, the problem is who will do the work. I definitely prefer a > small set of well working core CL packages over hundreds of obsolete CL > packages in a poorly maintained state. Well, I'm very ha

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-22 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "RS" == Rupert Swarbrick > writes: RS> I don't think that debian packages are a waste of time. It is not, the problem is who will do the work. I definitely prefer a small set of well working core CL packages over hundreds of obsolete CL packages in a poorly maintained state.

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-22 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "CL" == Christian Lynbech writes: CL> Is there any way non-DD's can help in the short term? Maybe helping to fix open Debian bugs on packages that you are interested in? CL> Longer term, interested paties should of course sign up as DD's Yes, please. ___

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-22 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "PVE" == Peter Van Eynde > writes: PVE> I also think that slime should go. Not that I don't think it is PVE> good package that has its use, but because it is just so tricky PVE> to maintain and I never have understood how to debug those PVE> emacs bugs :-(. If you give

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-21 Thread Christian Lynbech
> "Peter" == Peter Van Eynde writes: Peter> You're right of course. We'll keep clc and 'native' libraries. But the Peter> others should go. Is there any way non-DD's can help in the short term? We seem to be several ready to help out. Longer term, interested paties should of course sign u

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-21 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
Peter Van Eynde writes: >> I will be there and can try to stir some thing up if need be. >> >> Also, I would be willing to help out with packages (though I am not >> currently a Debian Developer). > > Honestly I get the impression that few people care about the packages. > Most implementations

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Christian, How is Castafiore doing? Could you revive her? Christian Lynbech wrote: > Would there be any point in discussing this at next months European > Common Lisp meeting? I fear that I won't be there. The 'next' conference that I will

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Van Eynde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello all, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I'm a DD interested in CL. I maintain (although not very actively) a > few Debian CL packages and I'm not going to give up on them, so I need > at least common-lisp-controller (in addition to CL implementations) in

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-17 Thread Milan Zamazal
I'm a DD interested in CL. I maintain (although not very actively) a few Debian CL packages and I'm not going to give up on them, so I need at least common-lisp-controller (in addition to CL implementations) in Debian. I might consider to help more, but the main problem (what a surprise!) is my R

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-17 Thread Milan Zamazal
I'm a DD interested in CL. I maintain (although not very actively) a few Debian CL packages and I'm not going to give up on them, so I need at least common-lisp-controller (in addition to CL implementations) in Debian. I might consider to help more, but the main problem (what a surprise!) is my R

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-16 Thread Christian Lynbech
> "Peter" == Peter Van Eynde writes: >> we go low impact and remove common-lisp-controller and all Common >> Lisp libraries, and I/we only package the lisp implementations >> (clisp, ecl, sbcl, cmucl and perhaps ccl) without any special changes Would there be any point in discussing this at

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-14 Thread Barry deFreese
Rupert Swarbrick wrote: Peter Van Eynde writes: After some consideration I must conclude that the state of the Common Lisp packages in Debian is becoming unreasonable. One of the goals of forming the pkg-common-lisp team was that I would not be a bottleneck, as RL is inflicting more and mor

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-13 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
Peter Van Eynde writes: >> After some consideration I must conclude that the state of the Common >> Lisp packages in Debian is becoming unreasonable. One of the goals of >> forming the pkg-common-lisp team was that I would not be a >> bottleneck, as RL is inflicting more and more damage to my 'De

Re: pan pan pan

2009-08-13 Thread Kambiz Darabi
Hello Peter, Peter Van Eynde wrote: > > Hi all, > > With regret I'll copy the message that I've put on my blog: > >> After some consideration I must conclude that the state of the Common Lisp >> packages in Debian is becoming unreasonable. One of the goals of forming the >> pkg-common-lisp tea