Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-02 Thread Gerry Danen
tedd, I don't find your implementation hard to read. There are implementations where zeros and Ohs are used and it typically takes several tries to get it right. http://www.nals2007.org/ shows how I just captured a single image and then hid the email address. I'd like to see a spambot reap that a

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-02 Thread tedd
David: Your points are well taken. I was impressed by your javascript answer. It seems to me that there should be something that could circumvent the CAPTCHA problem. I haven't played around with cron, but could the CAPTCHA key be provided via a timed sequence? For a human viewer, they cou

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-02 Thread David Dorward
tedd wrote: >>> B) to read it via text contained within your web site. >> C) Run it through a regular HTML parser. > > And where does the HTML parser get it's text to parse if not from the web > site? I was distinguishing between greping text looking for something that looked like an email addre

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread tedd
tedd wrote: There are only two ways for a spambot to get your email address from a web site: A) to read it via a screen reader, which is exceedingly slow. I may be wrong, but I doubt that any serious harvester would consider this method; B) to read it via text contained within your web site

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread tedd
I used this procedure once on a web site - It is rather simple, but worked quite well at the time: Stop SpamBots from Harvesting email addresses Using Character Codes in Emil Addresses If you replace at least one alphabetic character on each side of the "@" symbol in all of the e-mail addr

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, February 1, 2006 7:23 am, Gerry Danen wrote: > A user of mine insists that her email address shows on a web page. I > need to protect that address from spam bots. There are lots of > solutions around that I have come acros. I am looking for a clean, > reusable, non-javascript solution. As

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread Michael Hulse
Well, this is Javascript, but interesting: http://www.albionresearch.com/misc/obfuscator.php Link description: "Sadly there are a number of 'spambots' which roam the web 'harvesting' email addresses to send spam to. Often you have no choice but to include an email address in a web page. Fortu

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread David Dorward
tedd wrote: > There are only two ways for a spambot to get your email address from > a web site: A) to read it via a screen reader, which is exceedingly > slow. I may be wrong, but I doubt that any serious harvester would > consider this method; B) to read it via text contained within your > web s

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Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread Dave Lambert
Gerry Danen wrote: A user of mine insists that her email address shows on a web page. I need to protect that address from spam bots I used this procedure once on a web site - It is rather simple, but worked quite well at the time: Stop SpamBots from Harvesting email addresses Using Char

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread Greg Schnippel
> I doubt if this can be done, but it there a way to detect a spambot > as compared to a SE indexing your site? They are both basically the > same, right? Yes, if you can assume that a spambot will be doing sneaky things to hide its origin or identity. The "bad behavior" project has been trying to

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread Mathieu Dumoulin
Indeed, the problem is that the HTTP-USER_AGENT is actually set by the software reading the page, a bot could actually say its IE6 and then bypass your protection. The best protection you can do is encoding your addresses in a two way encoding like Base64 wich is plenty enough and using a litt

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread tedd
Regulars: I doubt if this can be done, but it there a way to detect a spambot as compared to a SE indexing your site? They are both basically the same, right? tedd -- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread Greg Schnippel
found this a couple of days ago on Digg: http://www.csarven.ca/hiding-email-addresses "A comprehensive list of methods on how to hide email addresses in source code from spam bots. Includes; CSS, Javascript, Forms, Images, Obfuscation, Authentication, Flash, Unicode, Encryption and other methods.

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread tedd
A user of mine insists that her email address shows on a web page. I need to protect that address from spam bots. There are lots of solutions around that I have come acros. I am looking for a clean, reusable, non-javascript solution. Any help is appreciated. Gerry Gerry: There are several way

Re: [PHP] Hide email addresses from spam bots

2006-02-01 Thread David Grant
Gerry, If a human being can read it, so can a spambot. New techniques might be developed all the time, but you shouldn't bet against spammers bringing themselves up to date with those techniques too. If the user wishes to display their e-mail address on a web page, they should ensure they have g