Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap package

2018-08-23 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, Guille made this one time ago: https://github.com/guillep/pharo-snapcraft cheers, Esteban > On 22 Aug 2018, at 17:19, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Hello > > Are there plans to do a Pharo 6.1 snap package in the upcoming > months? (Ubuntu 18.04.1)

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. I assume I have to install a package on Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver. The question is which one. Note: I plan to write a comprehensive installation instruction for JuypterTalk. On 8/23/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I installed JupyterTalk [1]. With it comes a ZeroMQ implementation > [2]. T

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread Marten Feldtmann
Simple question: Pharo 32 or 64 bit ? If you work with Pharo32 you need to install the 32bit (Unix)-libraries for 0MQ. If you work with Pharo64 you use the 64bit (Unix)-Libraries. So - what is your environment ? Marten Am 23.08.2018 um 10:54 schrieb H. Hirzel: > Hello > > I installed Jupyter

Re: [Pharo-users] Making TDD in pharo work properly (aka - walkback on a missing class is nasty)

2018-08-23 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 22 Aug 2018, at 16:24, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Hi - but I guess my question is (and excuse my basic knowledge in this area) > - when a class isn’t found - can we do better than return nil so that the > debugger can give a better msg and presumably the code I’ve written could > live on

[Pharo-users] Dynabook and authentic learning pedagogy

2018-08-23 Thread Hilaire
Hi, A few notes on how Dynabook and authentic learning methodology could be related. http://blog.drgeo.eu/post/2018/Authentic-learning Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
If I'm following right, you found jupyter/kernel folder and you created the kernel.json file, so you are very close to have everything running. In the screenshot,t Pharo is not able to find zeromq library libzmq.so.3, maybe anaconda installs other version. Please check for your libzmq.so file nam

Re: [Pharo-users] Making TDD in pharo work properly (aka - walkback on a missing class is nasty)

2018-08-23 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi Marcus - that’s actually what I do - and “create” in this case, creates a class and then restarts like the method case does. I guess I was wondering if we can do it more cleanly and also improve the debugger message. If I’ve understood you guys correctly- you try to remove the ambiguity aro

Re: [Pharo-users] Making TDD in pharo work properly (aka - walkback on a missing class is nasty)

2018-08-23 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 23 Aug 2018, at 15:56, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Hi Marcus - that’s actually what I do - and “create” in this case, creates a > class and then restarts like the method case does. > Yes, that I saw. But I mean a different case: Imagine you do have code like nil doSomething or

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
I'll take a look to *nteract*, seems that it uses the same protocol to communicate with kernels. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
if you stop/kill the process (closing pharo), jupyter start it again. By now kernel.json file do not open pharo in "headless" mode, because JupiterTalk is not released and I'm suddenly updating the code, anyway...there's nothing like Pharo debugger... Did you find libzeromq.so ? what version do y

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap package

2018-08-23 Thread Alistair Grant
Hi Hannes, On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 17:20, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Hello > > Are there plans to do a Pharo 6.1 snap package in the upcoming > months? (Ubuntu 18.04.1) I haven't been thinking about it really, because: - The big attraction for me was the ability to easily run 32 bit Pharo on a 64 bit

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Pharo 6.1 - 64bit on Ubuntu 18.04.1 (Bionic Beaver, 64bit). On 8/23/18, Marten Feldtmann wrote: > Simple question: > > Pharo 32 or 64 bit ? > > If you work with Pharo32 you need to install the 32bit (Unix)-libraries > for 0MQ. If you work with Pharo64 you use the 64bit (Unix)-Libraries. > > So -

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
please try the updated version. I have just uploaded a new version of libZeroMQ class that searches for the correct lib through the LD_LIBRARY_PATH. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
Load it again I've updated the unix64ModuleName to search for the correct library name. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
I've been playing with nteract and surprissently it uses the same kernels than Jupyter, it means all of your kernels published in /use/local/share/jupyter/kernels are usables by nteract. With a very simple change in session initialization Jupytertalk works on nteract except visualizations of grap

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread Jesús Marí
I've been playing with nteract and surprissently it uses the same kernels than Jupyter, it means all of your kernels published in /use/local/share/jupyter/kernels are usable by nteract. Whith a very simple change in session initialization Jupytertalk works on nteract. -- Sent from: http://forum.

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Thank you, Jesús Marí. I reloaded your updated JupyterTalk Pharo Smalltalk package which now looks for more places to find the library ZeroMQ. Unfortunately it still did not find the ZeroMQ library. The following command shows where there is a ZeroMQ library: [1] root@Latitude2:/# find / -name

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap package

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Alistair Thank you for the detailed answer. I understand that at the moment going for a Pharo snap package does not seem to be useful. In particular as a Pharo installation may reside in a directory with everything included. So different Pharo installations may reside in different directori

Re: [Pharo-users] Dynabook and authentic learning pedagogy

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Hilaire Thank you for the short summary what authentic learning is and the conclusions what this means for a Dynabook implementation. You conclude that Dynabook's tools should support using authentic documents. I think that in practice this means that DOCX and ODT documents should be sup

Re: [Pharo-users] Dynabook and authentic learning pedagogy

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. The reference [1] you give A. Tricot, L'innovation pédagogique, Retz, 2017 is very instructive. On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello Hilaire > > Thank you for the short summary what authentic learning is and the > conclusions what this means for a Dynabook implementation. > > You conclude t

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Thank you, Jesús Marí. I reloaded your updated JupyterTalk Pharo > Smalltalk package which now looks for more places to find the library > ZeroMQ. > > Unfortunately it still did not find the ZeroMQ library. > > The following command shows where there is a ZeroMQ libr

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/23/18, Jesús Marí wrote: > I'll take a look to *nteract*, seems that it uses the same protocol to > communicate with kernels. Good, actually my goal is to have a simple installation in a new Linux installation, something like a) download nteract (https://nteract.io/desktop), a 50MB executab

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Thinking about it again: Going for a Python - anaconda distribution related hack is to specific. I am rather interested in a regular ZeroMQ installation for Pharo. I have now created a new Ubuntu 18.04.1 bionic beaver installation and the question is: how do I set ZeroMQ up togehter with Pharo (Ju

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread Jesus Mari Aguirre
I see...anaconda installs everything in home directory. ZeroMQ version won't be a problem, probably it is backward compatible. I will include $home/anaconda3/lib in the searching path. El vie., 24 ago. 2018 a las 7:10, H. Hirzel () escribió: > On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Thank you, Jesús M