Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread Sabine Knöfel
Thank you Marcus. I see there was a similar discussion in march in FogBuzz/Google. Next time I will look in FogBuzz before starting a diskussion here. Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/inspect-returns-iOf-SystemWindow-and-not-receiver-tp4692399p4692713.html Sent f

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:56 PM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > Am 10.06.13 18:01, schrieb Marcus Denker: >> >>> Breaks the Principal of Least Surprise for those you want to attract from >>> other dialects. They may end up with a strong opinion on it :) >> >> >> I am not against reverting the

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread Sabine Knöfel
yes, I am a head-scratching person, possibly old fashioned :-), coming from other dialects and this is imho the best solution Sabine On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Marcus Denker-4 [via Smalltalk] wrote: > > On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:56 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > >> Am 10.06.13 18:01, schrieb Marcu

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 11 Jun 2013, at 09:57, Marcus Denker wrote: > So maybe we can > -> add #inspector that returns the tool > -> make inspect be like it was before (with documentation). +1 Lets not waste any more time on this

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references

2013-06-11 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Bump? 2013/6/6 Bernat Romagosa > Hi! > > I'm having an issue I don't recall having had about half a year ago when > trying out Voyage. > > In my schema, a *User* has an *instVar* referencing all the *Center*s he > belongs to, and a *Center* has an *instVar* referencing all of its *User*s, > so

Re: [Pharo-users] baseline for seaside 3.0

2013-06-11 Thread Sabine Knöfel
Ok, I think I can answer my question myself: spec project: 'Seaside30' with: [ spec className: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'; versionString: #'stable'; loads: #('default'); repository: 'http://www.squeaksourc

Re: [Pharo-users] baseline for seaside 3.0

2013-06-11 Thread p...@highoctane.be
works here too indeed. pharo 2.0 fresh. Le 11 juin 2013 10:54, "Sabine Knöfel" a écrit : > Ok, I think I can answer my question myself: > > spec > project: 'Seaside30' > with: [ > spec > className: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'; > versionStr

[Pharo-users] minimal headless pharo2 for CentOS

2013-06-11 Thread LogiqueWerks
re: headless Pharo 2.0 I just finished building gst on a tiny VPS site, but I would rather use pharo ... I can get some tips from pharo --help in my SSH console but I have a big dev CentOS here in VirtualBox in which to experiment in headless builds if set on the right track ... Does anyone have

Re: [Pharo-users] minimal headless pharo2 for CentOS

2013-06-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:14 PM, LogiqueWerks wrote: > re: headless Pharo 2.0 > > I just finished building gst on a tiny VPS site, but I would rather use > pharo ... I can get some tips from pharo --help in my SSH console but I have > a big dev CentOS here in VirtualBox in which to experiment in h

Re: [Pharo-users] minimal headless pharo2 for CentOS

2013-06-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Robert, What size are you aiming for ? A normal Pharo image needs between 50 and 100 Mb, with everything included. Not much in my book, are there such small VPS machines today ? I run 6 such Images/VM pairs on a AWS EC2 micro instances (~600Mb RAM). Linode starts at 1Gb ... Sven On 11 Jun 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references

2013-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, sorry... I has been running like hell last two weeks. I posted a reply http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17039914/how-to-persist-graphs-presenting-circular-references-in-voyage but sadly no good news... I don't know where is your error. Probably a problem in your configuration. I have

Re: [Pharo-users] minimal headless pharo2 for CentOS

2013-06-11 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi Robert, look at Pharo Kernel 2.0 image with Gofer https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-2.0/job/PharoKernel2.0-Gofer/ There is a version with preloaded basic Seaside too https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-2.0/job/PharoKernel2.0-Seaside/ Cheers, -- Pavel

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references

2013-06-11 Thread Bernat Romagosa
Hi Esteban! Thanks a lot, I tried your code and it's working for me, so the problem must be somewhere else. I set up a logger in VOMongoSerializer >> #serialize:description:using: and I can confirm it keeps jumping back and forth between two related objects, but I don't really know why... #new i

Re: [Pharo-users] minimal headless pharo2 for CentOS

2013-06-11 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Regarding the VM, in most 64bits Linux, you have to install some additional 32 bits libs. If you get a message like this: [marianopeck@myserver pharoVM]$ ./pharo could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either: - check that /opt/pharo/pharoVM//vm-display-X11.so exists, or - use the '-plug

Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references

2013-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
btw the configuration of voyage is outdated in the mongotalk driver (another thing I need to update, he) you might want to try manually updating the mongotalk packages. cheers, Esteban On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > Hi Esteban! > > Thanks a lot, I tried your code and

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread btc
Marcus Denker wrote: On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:56 PM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: Am 10.06.13 18:01, schrieb Marcus Denker: Breaks the Principal of Least Surprise for those you want to attract from other dialects. They may end up with a strong opinion on i

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread Johan Fabry
+1 as well. Consistent with historical/expected behavior and with info on how to do it 'the other way'. On Jun 11, 2013, at 4:08 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2013, at 09:57, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> So maybe we can >> -> add #inspector that returns the tool >> -

[Pharo-users] auto-format on save/display in pharo 2?

2013-06-11 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Is there a way to set the browser to auto format on save or display in pharo 2? Thanks

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

2013-06-11 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote > So maybe we can > -> add #inspector that returns the tool > -> make inspect be like it was before (with documentation). +1. Great idea. Seems best from both viewpoints. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/inspect-returns

[Pharo-users] #stable not defined

2013-06-11 Thread Thomas Worthington
Pick something in the configuration browser's unverified tab at random and the chances are that "Install configuration (stable version)" will fail with "#stable not defined" - tonight I tried FileSystem, Moose, CairoGraphics and Cog and all of them failed - some of them taking quite a long time to

Re: [Pharo-users] auto-format on save/display in pharo 2?

2013-06-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
not that I know but I would really like to experiment with such feature. On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > > > Is there a way to set the browser to auto format on save or display in > pharo 2? > > > Thanks > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] #stable not defined

2013-06-11 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Thomas Worthington-2 wrote > Pick something in the configuration browser's unverified tab at random and > the chances are that "Install configuration (stable version)" will fail > with "#stable not defined" - tonight I tried FileSystem, Moose, > CairoGraphics and Cog and all of them failed - some o

Re: [Pharo-users] #stable not defined

2013-06-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi tom Hello, which version of Pharo are you using? Because I do not see why you need to load FileSystem or Moose. Stef On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Thomas Worthington wrote: > Pick something in the configuration browser's unverified tab at random and > the chances are that "Install configur

Re: [Pharo-users] #stable not defined

2013-06-11 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Sean wrote >Thomas Worthington-2 wrote >>Regardless, what should I do to get SOME version of, say, Moose >>or CairoGraphics loaded up? >I tried to load Moose per the instructions on their website [1] and got and >error, so I'm not sure. I forwarded the error to >their mailing list [2] Could it

Re: [Pharo-users] #stable not defined

2013-06-11 Thread Thomas Worthington
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:44:34 +0100, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi tom Hello, which version of Pharo are you using? I should have said: 2.0 Because I do not see why you need to load FileSystem or Moose. I had forgotten than FileSystem was in 2.0; I don't see Moose anywhere in the groups

Re: [Pharo-users] #stable not defined

2013-06-11 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
>> Because I do not see why you need to load FileSystem or Moose. > > I had forgotten than FileSystem was in 2.0; I don't see Moose anywhere in the > groups menu. > > But the general question is: when the stable load fails, what is plan-B for > the user? I couldn't work this out from the sourc