Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Yes I understand this already, but I assume you mean something that already works with morphs which something I did not realise when I first replied.Dont know if Roassal offers something similar for mophs, but since none said so already I will assume it does not. In any case moving Morphic to Athen

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

kilon.alios wrote > I dont get why we need zoomable and infinitable scrollable pasteupmorph, I need an IDE that does not cram my self expression into a multi-paned browser. PasteUpMorph is an implementation detail that I'd be happy to upgrade if there's something better. - Cheers, Sean -- V

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Le 02/11/2014 16:29, Nicolai Hess a écrit : 2014-11-02 15:22 GMT+01:00 Thierry Goubier mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com>>: Le 02/11/2014 15:15, stepharo a écrit : I gave up on zoomability (with the idea to revisit after Athens is integrated), A

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

I dont get why we need zoomable and infinitable scrollable pasteupmorph, athens already can do this, scale things and pan things to infinitive and beyond , you apply morphic and voila. On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > 2014-11-02 15:22 GMT+01:00 Thierry Goubier : > >> Le 02/1

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

2014-11-02 15:22 GMT+01:00 Thierry Goubier : > Le 02/11/2014 15:15, stepharo a écrit : > >> >> I gave up on zoomability (with the idea to revisit after Athens is >>> integrated), >>> >> >> Athens is integrated. Now if the community does not help redefining the >> drawnOn: methods using athens the

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Le 02/11/2014 15:15, stepharo a écrit : I gave up on zoomability (with the idea to revisit after Athens is integrated), Athens is integrated. Now if the community does not help redefining the drawnOn: methods using athens then it will not happen. And, speaking of infinite zoomability, you h

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

I gave up on zoomability (with the idea to revisit after Athens is integrated), Athens is integrated. Now if the community does not help redefining the drawnOn: methods using athens then it will not happen. Stef but I hacked together an infinitely scrollable world, called ScrollableWorld

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Do you think Roassal can replace Morphic at all? No Stef 2014-09-16 20:07 GMT+04:00 Alexandre Bergel >: In the word “submorph” there are two important parts. “sub” and “morph”. Roassal support subelements, but only one morph is around, the trac

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Thanks, very interesting! -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2014-10-29 16:31 GMT+04:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > I gave up on zoomability (with the idea to revisit after Athens is > integrated), but I hacked together an infinitely scrollable world, called > ScrollableWorldMorph, which is in use i

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

I gave up on zoomability (with the idea to revisit after Athens is integrated), but I hacked together an infinitely scrollable world, called ScrollableWorldMorph, which is in use in my LivingCode IDE prototype described (with loading instructions) at http://forum.world.st/Clickable-class-side-examp

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Sean, any news on the topic? -- Best regards, Dennis Schetinin 2014-09-18 9:20 GMT+04:00 Alexandre Bergel : > > Ah one thing with roassal: > > > > Please honor the global keymappings and morph local ones. > > > > TRMorph swallows them due to the key press related methods which hijack > them

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

> Ah one thing with roassal: > > Please honor the global keymappings and morph local ones. > > TRMorph swallows them due to the key press related methods which hijack them > all. Is there another keystroke than cmd-w ? > Once a TRMorph is active is feels weird. > > I love TRMorph and animatio

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Ah one thing with roassal: Please honor the global keymappings and morph local ones. TRMorph swallows them due to the key press related methods which hijack them all. Once a TRMorph is active is feels weird. I love TRMorph and animations. Very nice code. Phil Le 18 sept. 2014 05:46, "Alexand

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Yes it can. But Roassal is not made to replace Morphic. In my opinion, Morphic is not simply about having graphic elements answering events, as Roassal does. Morphic provides ways to build sophisticated UI (even if Morphic behaves poorly in comparison with state-of-the-art UI frameworks). Roassa

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Hi. Do you think Roassal can replace Morphic at all? 2014-09-16 20:07 GMT+04:00 Alexandre Bergel : > In the word “submorph” there are two important parts. “sub” and “morph”. > Roassal support subelements, but only one morph is around, the trachel > morph that contains all the drawing. > Why sta

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:20 PM, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" wrote: > Zooming is not infinite here Zooming wouldn't need to be, only scrolling e.g. an infinitely large world viewed through a small viewport - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Zoomable-Infini

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Here is an example: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | v | v := RTView new. v @ RTZoomableView. v add: (RTLabel new elementOn: 'Scroll your mouse wheel while hovering cursor over the view to zoom it'). v -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=700319393387994&set=vb.340543479365589&t

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:08 PM, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" wrote: > Why staying in Morphic? I want a "morph" with all the existing capabilities of a WorldMorph, that also has zooming and infinite scrolling. Is this easily possible via Roassal/Trachel? - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in c

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

In the word “submorph” there are two important parts. “sub” and “morph”. Roassal support subelements, but only one morph is around, the trachel morph that contains all the drawing. Why staying in Morphic? Morphic does not scale well, does not have layout, and morphs are hardly composable with ot

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

For infinitely zoomable interface, an old body of work and research on the possibilities is Pad++ [http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/pad++/] . Parcplace did some stuff too. Squeak seemed to have something at one point. Thierry 2014-09-16 15:09 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:59 A

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:59 AM, "S Krish [via Smalltalk]" wrote: > I am sure it will be lot more involved beyond a point to make everything > contained zoomable, text editor: text / image , other compositions , layouts > being honored properly.. Yes I assume that text is where things would get co

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Interesting thought from a CAD drawing world, one does this all the time.. Basic morph level zooms as a contained sub morphs to some extent could be possible as proof of concept. I am sure it will be lot more involved beyond a point to make everything contained zoomable, text editor: text / image

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:54 PM, "abergel [via Smalltalk]" wrote: > Can you describe a bit more what you need? In Roassal, you do not have > submorph, but do you really need them? Yes, I want to create a Self-like world that is also zoomable, so you could say the whole purpose is to have submorphs

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Hi! Can you describe a bit more what you need? In Roassal, you do not have submorph, but do you really need them? Alexandre > Le 15-09-2014 à 20:18, "Sean P. DeNigris" a écrit : > > Sean P. DeNigris wrote >> I see the GT playground seems to have something like this for the Roassal >> preview

Re: [Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

Sean P. DeNigris wrote > I see the GT playground seems to have something like this for the Roassal > previews... Although digging a bit, I see that the sub-objects are not true Morphs, so it seems that particular approach is not applicable... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

[Pharo-users] Zoomable & Infinitely scrollable PasteupMorph

I need to create such a beast. What is my best bet to build on top of? I see the GT playground seems to have something like this for the Roassal previews... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Zoomable-Infinitely-scrollable-PasteupMorph-tp4778229.html Sent