Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hi Sebastian, 2015-01-25 14:52 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Heidbrink : > Okay, I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo > world and I am really confused. > > So, am I right to say. > - Polymorph is no more really the way to go? > Polymorph is a very low-level UI "framework". I wo

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-01-25 18:52 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Heidbrink : > Okay, I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo > world and I am really confused. > > So, am I right to say. > - Polymorph is no more really the way to go? > - Spec is the official way to go right now? > - Roassal2 is the wa

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Johan Fabry
That’s easy :-), the Pharo tools themselves are examples. Have a look at the hierarchy of ComposableModel. You will not only find the basic widgets there, but also all UIs built with Spec that are delivered in Pharo. A random example from that is the code critics browser CriticBrowser. You can

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi, I’ll try to answer what I can ... Spec is the way to go, Roassal2 is the best visualization tool we have (and I think it’s excellent), Glamour is separate from Moose. If I may simplify: Spec is for any kind of traditional user interface, where Glamour is for a subset of that: those where t

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Hi! Is there any library or resource where I could have a look what others have done with Spec? I have a hard time to find screenshots and additional information on what was used. Sebastian On 2015-01-25 2:34 AM, Johan Fabry wrote: Hi Sebastian, for building UIs I would go with Spec. It ho

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Okay, I am new to the UI implementations and options in the Pharo world and I am really confused. So, am I right to say. - Polymorph is no more really the way to go? - Spec is the official way to go right now? - Roassal2 is the way to go for visualizations? - Athens is well, I can't even sa

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Peter Uhnak
past few months. Peter -Original Message- From: "Piotr Klibert" Sent: ‎1/‎25/‎2015 1:26 PM To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options > > is there a high-level overview of Roassal > architectur

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Stephan Eggermont
That Maya Node Editor looks like a PasteUpMorph with Connectors to me. You'd might want to wrap them (Morphic) in a in a standard window with menu bar and toolbar from either Spec or Glamour for now. And then follow Bloc developments to move there. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 13:26, Piotr Klibert wrote: > >> >> is there a high-level overview of Roassal >> architecture somewhere? >> > > I just found http://agilevisualization.com/#book Yes, that one. The thing with Roassal and friends is also the examples, there are tons of them. But class co

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Piotr Klibert
> > is there a high-level overview of Roassal > architecture somewhere? > I just found http://agilevisualization.com/#book - last time I read about Roassal was in a draft for Deep into Pharo a couple of years ago and I'm glad to see that documentation situation improved so much. Added to my readin

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Piotr Klibert
Hi, > > It however does not support adding > widgets without decoration straight to the desktop. > What about #openWorldWithSpec? As I understand this your top-level widget becomes your desktop and you can do whatever you want with it. > > As for pretty graphs, I recommend Roassal2 by the Objec

Re: [Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-25 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi Sebastian, for building UIs I would go with Spec. It however does not support adding widgets without decoration straight to the desktop. What’s wrong with having them open in different windows? If the windows keep references to each other they can interact (more specifically if the different

[Pharo-users] UI framework&design options

2015-01-24 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Hi! I need to visualize&manipulate data within a graph representation. Something like the "Maya Node Editor ". I am also interested in decorationless windows&widgets. Is it possible to embed entry fields, l