Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-25 Thread stepharo
In a computing monoculture of overcomplex ways of doing programming and DVCS is refreshing to find a community where alternative ideas like Pharo and fossil and listened and used. Indeed...now I'm into learning Pharo trying to adjust to some alternatives, but those will require to ask some addi

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-25 Thread stepharo
Le 23/12/15 14:23, Saša Janiška a écrit : On Sri, 2015-12-23 at 20:01 +0800, Pierce Ng wrote: For now I'm not bothered about integrating Fossil as a Pharo VCS though. I just use Monticello. Is Monticello good-enough for collaboration with smaller team of devs? of course. Pharo itself is de

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-25 Thread Saša Janiška
On Sri, 2015-12-23 at 09:20 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > In a computing monoculture of overcomplex ways of doing programming  > and DVCS is refreshing to find a community where alternative ideas > like Pharo and fossil and listened and used. Indeed...now I'm into learning Pharo t

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-23 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 23/12/15 08:23, Saša Janiška wrote: On Sri, 2015-12-23 at 20:01 +0800, Pierce Ng wrote: For now I'm not bothered about integrating Fossil as a Pharo VCS though. I just use Monticello. Is Monticello good-enough for collaboration with smaller team of devs? Yes, if you work only with S

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-23 Thread Saša Janiška
On Sri, 2015-12-23 at 20:01 +0800, Pierce Ng wrote: > For now I'm not bothered about integrating Fossil as a Pharo VCS > though. I just use Monticello. Is Monticello good-enough for collaboration with smaller team of devs? Sincerely, Gour --  As a blazing fire turns firewood to ashes, O Arjuna

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-23 Thread Pierce Ng
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 09:38:20AM +0100, Saša Janiška wrote: > Sure, I'm really excited about it and exploring further. However, it's > nice to find users within Pharo community who can see the merits of > Fossil DVCS. I use Fossil as personal wiki, VCS for config files, and ticketing system. I l

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-23 Thread Saša Janiška
On Uto, 2015-12-22 at 15:23 +0100, Hilaire wrote: > As for now, you have to use filetree, over fossil repo, but from Pharo > you can only save to the repo, no way to fetch back I think. OK. > But if you are potential Pharo users, you should not waste your time > on the CVS question but discover

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-22 Thread stepharo
Le 22/12/15 11:39, Saša Janiška a écrit : On Uto, 2015-10-20 at 11:09 +0200, Hilaire wrote: Hello, potential Pharo user here who just installed 5.0 image on his Debian Sid and researching whether Smalltalk (Pharo) can be used as language for writing some multi-platform opens-source apps...

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-22 Thread Hilaire
Hello, As for now, you have to use filetree, over fossil repo, but from Pharo you can only save to the repo, no way to fetch back I think. The GIT integration is more advanced with dedicated GIT package for Pharo. As a first iteration, I did some code modifications -- blindly I have to admit -- o

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-12-22 Thread Saša Janiška
On Uto, 2015-10-20 at 11:09 +0200, Hilaire wrote: Hello, potential Pharo user here who just installed 5.0 image on his Debian Sid and researching whether Smalltalk (Pharo) can be used as language for writing some multi-platform opens-source apps...tried/evaluated several languages, but, consideri

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-29 Thread stepharo
Stef, There is no problem. I just *lack time* to keep moving on DrGeo features and migrate to Pharo4.0 at the same time. I quickly try Dr. Geo code on Pharo4 and realize it will need some work and lot of user testing to get DrGeo as robust as it is now. We will conduct end user experiment in p

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-29 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-29 10:26 GMT+01:00 Hilaire : > Le 24/10/2015 18:44, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > Hilaire, if you prefer a Smalltalkhub project, just do so and I'll > > make regular merges back into filetree. > > I commited to SqueakSource a few abstractions WIP > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/istoa/ > I mor

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-29 Thread Hilaire
Le 24/10/2015 18:44, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Hilaire, if you prefer a Smalltalkhub project, just do so and I'll > make regular merges back into filetree. I commited to SqueakSource a few abstractions WIP http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/istoa/ I more or less randomly abstracted the classes but can't

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Dale Henrichs
At the end of the day, I would assume that it would be possible to run travis-ci tests against a fossil repository which would be very useful to have ... but like I said, I'm fine with whatever you guys decide... Dale On 10/24/15 10:12 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: Le 24/10/2015 18:56, Hilaire a

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 24/10/2015 18:56, Hilaire a écrit : I was not aware filetree need to be modified as well? But wait, I can use it right now with Fossil, so I am bit lost. No, no. This is just the development of GitFileTree is integrated inside the main FileTree repository. If you look at https://github.c

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Hilaire
I was not aware filetree need to be modified as well? But wait, I can use it right now with Fossil, so I am bit lost. Hilaire Le 24/10/2015 18:44, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Hilaire, Dale, > > the easiest would be to make a fork of filetree on github, and try > from there. But a branch in the ma

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hilaire, Dale, the easiest would be to make a fork of filetree on github, and try from there. But a branch in the main filetree would work just as well, with the added benefit of the travis CI integration (and gitfiletree has tests in there). Running tests locally is often necessary, but setti

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Dale Henrichs
Thierry and Hilaire, If you want to work together up on the github repo, that's up to you and Hilaire, if you have a github id, let me know and I will add you as a contributor on the project so that you two can work together ... Dale On 10/24/15 6:55 AM, Hilaire wrote: Le 22/10/2015 10:47,

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Hilaire
Le 22/10/2015 10:47, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Yes, I guess so. > > Still, with all the people interested by Fossil, I think the > motivation is there. And it would be nice to see a bit of refactoring > to decouple the format from the specific commands used for the > specific VCS. > > Thierry I

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-24 Thread Hilaire
I will write you if needed, I am not there yet. Hilaire Le 22/10/2015 22:51, Dale Henrichs a écrit : > Hilaire, if you are interested in contributing, I would be willing to > add you to the FileTree project up on GitHub ... Oops, unless you > don't want to be:) > > Dale > > On 10/22/2015 01:40 AM

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-22 Thread Dale Henrichs
Hilaire, if you are interested in contributing, I would be willing to add you to the FileTree project up on GitHub ... Oops, unless you don't want to be:) Dale On 10/22/2015 01:40 AM, Hilaire wrote: Le 21/10/2015 22:03, Thierry Goubier a écrit : Just use the ConfigurationOfGitFileTree availa

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-22 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-22 11:16 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Le 22/10/2015 10:47, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > Still, with all the people interested by Fossil, I think the > > motivation is there. And it would be nice to see a bit of refactoring > > to decouple the format from the specific commands used for the > > sp

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-22 Thread Hilaire
Le 22/10/2015 10:47, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Still, with all the people interested by Fossil, I think the > motivation is there. And it would be nice to see a bit of refactoring > to decouple the format from the specific commands used for the > specific VCS. > Decoupling was my first though loo

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-22 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-22 10:40 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Le 21/10/2015 22:03, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > > > Just use the ConfigurationOfGitFileTree available in your > > Configuration browser in the image ;) > > > > Or > > > > Metacello new > > configuration: 'GitFileTree'; > > repository: > > 'http://s

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-22 Thread Hilaire
Le 21/10/2015 22:03, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > Just use the ConfigurationOfGitFileTree available in your > Configuration browser in the image ;) > > Or > > Metacello new > configuration: 'GitFileTree'; > repository: > 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo30/main'; > loa

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Bernardo, I host my own repos. Is really easy[1]. In my case was just a matter of enabling cgi on lighttpd[2] and adding the lines at [3] to the lighttpd.conf file. There is a place that offers fossil hosting as a service[4] and at some time I tried to make my own in web2py (but code is not m

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
Hi Offray What fossil hosting service do you recommend ? Thanks On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < off...@riseup.net> wrote: > Hi, > > On 20/10/15 13:34, Dale Henrichs wrote: > >> This is good to hear >> >> I am pro-git, because well you have to pick an

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, On 20/10/15 13:34, Dale Henrichs wrote: This is good to hear I am pro-git, because well you have to pick an SCM to talk about and I do think that the collaboration tools for open source projects on github are superior to anything else... My friends think the same, but usually the

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Stef, Thanks for this review. Because of its portability and simplicity I use it for every project I have. Since 2011 I'm writing my thesis as a solo "open research" exercise (before it get fashioned ;-) time line at [1]). Now I used in conjunction with STON to write all the thesis inside

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 21/10/2015 21:58, Hilaire a écrit : Thanks for the details it will be helpful, but I wanted to know where is the .mcz package? Just use the ConfigurationOfGitFileTree available in your Configuration browser in the image ;) Or Metacello new configuration: 'GitFileTree'; re

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Hilaire
Thanks for the details it will be helpful, but I wanted to know where is the .mcz package? Hilaire Le 21/10/2015 21:29, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Le 21/10/2015 21:09, Hilaire a écrit : >> Le 20/10/2015 16:32, Thierry Goubier a écrit : >>> Done. The configuration has been updated for Pharo3. >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 21/10/2015 21:09, Hilaire a écrit : Le 20/10/2015 16:32, Thierry Goubier a écrit : Done. The configuration has been updated for Pharo3. Où dois-je regarder ? Look the following methods in MCFileTreeGitRepository, protocole git querying: gitBranchs gitCloneRepositoryAndCheckoutIn: gitNe

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-21 Thread Hilaire
Le 20/10/2015 16:32, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > Done. The configuration has been updated for Pharo3. > Où dois-je regarder ? -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu http://google.com/+DrgeoEu

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Hilaire
Stef, There is no problem. I just *lack time* to keep moving on DrGeo features and migrate to Pharo4.0 at the same time. I quickly try Dr. Geo code on Pharo4 and realize it will need some work and lot of user testing to get DrGeo as robust as it is now. We will conduct end user experiment in prim

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Dale Henrichs
This is good to hear I am pro-git, because well you have to pick an SCM to talk about and I do think that the collaboration tools for open source projects on github are superior to anything else... Git other than that I am glad that folks are finding that FileTree is working for other d

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread stepharo
6.0 Review Of Key Concepts The fossil program is a self-contained stand-alone executable. Just put it somewhere on your PATH to install it. Use the clone or new commands to create a new repository. Use the open command to create a new source tree. Use the add and rm or delete commands to add an

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-20 16:07 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > > > 2015-10-20 12:21 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > >> >> >> 2015-10-20 12:17 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : >> >>> >>> >>> 2015-10-20 12:13 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : >>> Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > So it looks very similar to a f

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-20 12:21 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > > > 2015-10-20 12:17 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > >> >> >> 2015-10-20 12:13 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : >> >>> Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : >>> > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? >>> > >>> > Any taker on adding a foss

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread stepharo
Hilaire what is the problem that you encounter to still be in Pharo3.0? Stef Le 20/10/15 12:13, Hilaire a écrit : Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same approach

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-20 12:17 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > > > 2015-10-20 12:13 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > >> Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : >> > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? >> > >> > Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same >> > approach as GitFi

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-20 12:13 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? > > > > Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same > > approach as GitFileTree ? > > > > Thierry > > Which version of GitFileTree

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Hilaire
Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? > > Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same > approach as GitFileTree ? > > Thierry Which version of GitFileTree should I take for Pharo3? Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Hilaire
Le 20/10/2015 11:20, Thierry Goubier a écrit : > So it looks very similar to a filetree + git workflow ? I don't know much git, but I guess it will the same > > Any taker on adding a fossil interface to filetree with the same > approach as GitFileTree ? I will take a look, adapting should be qui

Re: [Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
2015-10-20 11:09 GMT+02:00 Hilaire : > Hi, > > I have been trying Fossil with Filetree, and I was rather please by the > mutuals use of these tools. So I may share a few feedbacks. > Fossil[1] itself is a software to manage source code development. It is > very simple to install and data is saved

[Pharo-users] Fossil and Filetree

2015-10-20 Thread Hilaire
Hi, I have been trying Fossil with Filetree, and I was rather please by the mutuals use of these tools. So I may share a few feedbacks. Fossil[1] itself is a software to manage source code development. It is very simple to install and data is saved in a single sqlite database. It comes with source