Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-07-09 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2015-06-30 11:21 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Ben Coman wrote > > I find myself liking the last two... Actually... maybe using > > > > together with > > > > will distinguish the most between the two cases > > I agree that any of those would be fine. I kind of like your last > suggestion, in f

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-30 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 30/06/15 01:32, Nicolai Hess wrote: 2015-06-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris >: Peter Uhnák wrote > It seems that > > is then the go-to naming for now I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Ben Coman wrote > I find myself liking the last two... Actually... maybe using > > together with > > will distinguish the most between the two cases I agree that any of those would be fine. I kind of like your last suggestion, in fact. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: h

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Peter Uhnák wrote >> It seems that >> >> is then the go-to naming for now > > I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't > quite sound right. > > Sample and Example are the two words that most clearly captu

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-30 Thread Luc Fabresse
2015-06-30 9:09 GMT+02:00 Stephan Eggermont : > On 29-06-15 20:10, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> I strongly feel we should be >> more specific and uniform by either using ( & >> ) or ( & ). >> > > +1 Be specific. +1 too > > > Stephan > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 29-06-15 20:10, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: I strongly feel we should be more specific and uniform by either using ( & ) or ( & ). +1 Be specific. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-29 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-06-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris : > Peter Uhnák wrote > > It seems that > > > > is then the go-to naming for now > > I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't > quite sound right. > > Sample and Example are the two words that most clearly capture the i

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-29 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Peter Uhnák wrote > It seems that > > is then the go-to naming for now I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't quite sound right. Sample and Example are the two words that most clearly capture the intent. The problem with using #sample to return instances and

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Thank you all for your answers (For whatever reason all replies by Torsten > to this thread ended up as separate threads.. maybe mail client issues?) > > It seems that is then the go-to naming for now. I also like that > the word starts differ

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Peter Uhnák
Thank you all for your answers (For whatever reason all replies by Torsten to this thread ended up as separate threads.. maybe mail client issues?) It seems that is then the go-to naming for now. I also like that the word starts differently so it's easy to differentiate them at a glance. On Mon

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Torsten, By we, I mean the GT team. I thought this should have been quite clear given the gt prefix and where this code is packaged :). We do not want to keep it a secret, but we only go to the community when we have something significant to say. Sometimes the reaction takes a short time, some

[Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Tudor Girba wrote: >We are working on a more elaborate model for examples, but we need a bit >more time to get to a rounder solution. Hi Doru, Sorry - but I think this is not acceptable as a satisfying answer: Remember that the GT extension was developed in parallel a little too bit hidden. I

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> there was no agreement - so we rolled back for Pharo 4 to discuss/decide for >> Pharo 5. >> >> I communicated already how I would solve it to get IMHO a consistent an

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Peter, > > there was no agreement - so we rolled back for Pharo 4 to discuss/decide for > Pharo 5. > > I communicated already how I would solve it to get IMHO a consistent and > easy understandable solution: > > 1. executable example

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We are working on a more elaborate model for examples, but we need a bit more time to get to a rounder solution. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > 2015-06-22 12:03 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák : > >> Hi, >> >> there was a long discussion about the meaning

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Damien Cassou
Ben Coman writes: > I'll revisit my previous suggestion. In real life... > > * a "sample" is a real object you can hold. You ask a supplier to > "send you a sample" of their product so you can inspect it before you > buy lots. In an industrial factory, you "take a sample" to take an > item fro

[Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Peter, there was no agreement - so we rolled back for Pharo 4 to discuss/decide for Pharo 5. I communicated already how I would solve it to get IMHO a consistent and easy understandable solution: 1. executable example = We talk about executable code here: an "example"

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Ben Coman
I'll revisit my previous suggestion. In real life... * a "sample" is a real object you can hold. You ask a supplier to "send you a sample" of their product so you can inspect it before you buy lots. In an industrial factory, you "take a sample" to take an item from the process stream to the lab

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-06-22 12:03 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák : > Hi, > > there was a long discussion about the meaning of example* methods and > pragmas, however I do not know what was the final resolution. > > Basically I am interested in two use-cases > > 1. executable example (the one where Nautilus shows nice play

[Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-22 Thread Peter Uhnák
Hi, there was a long discussion about the meaning of example* methods and pragmas, however I do not know what was the final resolution. Basically I am interested in two use-cases 1. executable example (the one where Nautilus shows nice play icon) This is as I understand only through example* na