Re: [Pharo-users] Getting rid of .sources file for deployment

2020-09-03 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
The .sources file has been optional for as long as I can remember. Is it OK for list that somebody breaks this tradition? Trygve On 2020-08-29 04:49, Esteban Maringolo wrote: Hi, Is there a way to get rid the .sources file in a deployment scenario? I followed this guide [1], but I cannot get

Re: [Pharo-users] DateTime now nanos

2020-06-14 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- /The essence of object orientation is that objects collaborateto achieve a goal. / Trygve Reenskaug mailto: tryg...@ifi.uio.no <mailto:%20tryg...@ifi.uio.no> Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ N-0378 Oslo

Re: [Pharo-users] FFI and absolute path to dll

2020-05-12 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
a new edition of Windows. I'm hoping the creator of the program will fix the problem. In the mean time, I have to remember to start the program manually every morning. This applies to Win7 and Win 10. Hope this helps even if it doesn't solve the problem. --Trygve On 12.05.2020 21

Re: [Pharo-users] mentor question 4

2020-05-04 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
* A coding experiment.* Consider a Scrum development environment. Every programming team has an end user as a member. The team's task is to code a credit card validity check. A first goal is that the user representative shall read the code and agree that it is a correct rendering of their code

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] JRMPC Poll

2020-03-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Could the class documentation you are looking for be generated automagically from the class comments? The first para could be a blurb describing the purpose of the class. The resulting document could be searchable. --Trygve On 26.03.2020 14:43, horrido wrote: I didn't ask them that,

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

2020-02-09 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
outdated and useless by the time it's finished. I'm 90, so the temptation is resisted and story ends here. Best --Trygve On 08.02.2020 18:02, TedVanGaalen wrote: Hi Ben Maybe you misunderstood what I meant. I was thinking of Pharo-backward-compatibility. not Smalltalk-backward-compatibi

Re: [Pharo-users] We Are Smalltalk

2019-10-30 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Here's a video that demonstrates something that has been done with Squeak: http://folk.uio.no/trygver/2017/Ellen-video-2.6(copy22)-%20AVCHD.H264.1440x1080p24.mp4 --Trygve On 28.10.2019 21:32, Richard Kenneth Eng wrote: https://youtu.be/pB0iI6ksW30 -- /The essence of object orientati

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming

2019-07-25 Thread Trygve
I dream of a future with the release of a Loke 1.0 that is firmly embedded in Pharo. A Loke that is quickly becoming the computing environment of choice for millions of homeowners and schoolchildren. Trygve On 25.07.2019 18:34, Cédrick Béler wrote: Me too ! And on the huge esug discussion

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-10 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
s controversial and should probably delete some or all of it to avoid angry answers. Another reason why I probably shouldn't send it is that I do not have time to engage in a discussion. I /must /give priority to finishing my article on DCI and PP. (A ~50 page draft is on my home page; it will

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-09 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
n7-VM.   I'll update the ZIP if anybody is interested in actually running BabyIDE --Trygve On 08.05.2018 20:06, H. Hirzel wrote: On 5/6/18, Trygve Reenskaug wrote: I'm working on a programing paradigm and IDE for the personal programmer who wants to control his or her IoT.

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-09 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Of course not. But one of my goals is that future dynabooks will be backwards compatible. Recent discussions have shown me that this goal is a research project. --Trygve On 09.05.2018 12:19, Marcus Denker wrote: I go back to Alan Kay's vision of a Dynabook: A/personal/computer for chi

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-08 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
is a new research project that I look forward to digging into as soon as time permits. Thanks -Trygve On 08.05.2018 09:57, Norbert Hartl wrote: Am 08.05.2018 um 08:30 schrieb Trygve Reenskaug <mailto:tryg...@ifi.uio.no>>: Norbert, I stand corrected because I have not followed

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-07 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
tributions to my thinking. --Trygve. On 07.05.2018 14:14, Norbert Hartl wrote: Am 07.05.2018 um 12:42 schrieb Trygve Reenskaug <mailto:tryg...@ifi.uio.no>>: Please tell me when Java, C, C++, etc programs stopped working because their runtime systems had changed. Please tell me whe

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-07 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
pharo version 4. And then for version 5, version 6,…. Sounds like a dream…but hey…it is indeed realistic. It just depends on how the people approach it How does this sound? Norbert Am 07.05.2018 um 11:31 schrieb Trygve Reenskaug <mailto:tryg...@ifi.uio.no>>: Thanks for your quick a

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-07 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
er they are doing in order to adapt their applications to the new Pharo so that you can start serving your customers again. Cheers --Trygve On 06.05.2018 13:00, Norbert Hartl wrote: Can you elaborate on what you consider as a kernel? There are always things moving in the pharo world. The la

[Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-06 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
alue for millions of non-expert users? --Thanks, Trygve On 05.05.2018 13:53, Stephan Eggermont wrote: I’ve taken a look at what would be needed to support magma on pharo a few years ago. Chris always told us he uses it professionally on squeak and/*has not enough capacity to keep up with changes

Re: [Pharo-users] Mac Squeak binary virtual machine for Squeak 3.10.2

2015-06-12 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
I rest my case. --Trygve On 10.06.2015 20:57, Serge Stinckwich wrote: If I remember correctly, it was easy to port Moose from VW to Pharo, because there was a lot of tests. I'm currently working on porting another software from VW to Pharo without any tests and I'm suffering;-)

Re: [Pharo-users] Mac Squeak binary virtual machine for Squeak 3.10.2

2015-06-10 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
was partly because I believe you underestimate the work needed to port BabyIDE to Pharo and partly because you do not appear to appreciate the need that programmers (your customers) have for a stable programming language. Trygve On 09.06.2015 19:59, stepharo wrote: I'm sorry to say that Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] SmaCC: First steps

2015-02-12 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
later. Cheers --Trygve On 11.02.2015 18:36, kilon alios wrote: Well I tried in the past to use openqwaq , but what I learned from the experience is that sometimes understanding others code can be even more time consuming than remaking it yourself. I spent like an afternoon trying to understand

Re: [Pharo-users] Image growing size

2015-02-07 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
[ :aClass | aClass -> aClass allInstances size]) sort: [ :a :b | a value > b value ] It takes some time to run, especially in a larger image. Stephan -- /The essence of object orientation is that objects collaborateto achieve a goal. / Trygve Reenska

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on Morphic drawOn: method.

2015-02-05 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Trygve Reenskaug [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] > wrote: Because your drawOn: method doesn't draw anything and needs help from super. It seems to me that you need to read more documentation :-) On 05.02.2015 15:53, nacho wrote: That work perfec

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on Morphic drawOn: method.

2015-02-05 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Trygve Reenskaug [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] > wrote: I've tested your code in Squeak and found another bug (I should have been more careful when I read your code. Shame on me.) In class Ball you have the methods position: aPoint

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on Morphic drawOn: method.

2015-02-05 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
pseMorph handles its position and bounds . This will not be trivial. Much easier to invent a new instance variable and use it in the drawOn: method. Good luck with your apprenticeship On 05.02.2015 11:56, nacho wrote: @Trygve I've checked and it doesn't work. I can't even

Re: [Pharo-users] Question on Morphic drawOn: method.

2015-02-04 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
hat I can test it) --Trygve On 04.02.2015 19:00, nacho wrote: Hi, I have the following question: I want to draw a bouncing ball. First thing I do is create a class: EllipseMorph subclass: #Ball instanceVariableNames: 'position' classVariableNames: '' ca

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: [Pharo-dev] why smalltalk is the best system to support object-oriented thinking :)

2015-02-04 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Excellent talk. I was particularly happy with the hammer illustration on slide 8. --Trygve On 04.02.2015 10:43, stepharo wrote: Better on this list. Message transféré Sujet : [Pharo-dev] why smalltalk is the best system to support object-oriented thinking :) Date : Tue

Re: [Pharo-users] Slides from the Pharo Status talk at FOSDEM 2015

2015-02-03 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
It's a fact of life that leverage implies rigidity. A rubber crowbar is flexible, but useless. Our challenge is, as I see it, to determine the minimum we need to keep rigid in order to get maximum leverage for doing the rest. --Trygve On 03.02.2015 14:34, Marcus Denker wrote: On 03 Feb

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about Morphic in Pharo 4

2014-12-20 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
fterwards, I could read the generated Morphic code and say: Aha! So that's how I should have done it. Just a dream. --Trygve On 20.12.2014 14:08, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: On 20 Dec 2014, at 13:44, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: kilon.alios wrote even if continue to use Spec I will stiil h

Re: [Pharo-users] Your picture on Pharo contributors :)

2014-09-27 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
On 27.09.2014 09:26, Marcus Denker wrote: On 27 Sep 2014, at 07:17, stepharo <mailto:steph...@free.fr>> wrote: Trygve We took exactly the same license process and text than squeak. This way people cannot argue that this is different because pharo is based on Squeak. It took squea

Re: [Pharo-users] Your picture on Pharo contributors :)

2014-09-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
RE." I have no problem with signing this, but I have a problem with signing a carte blanche. --Trygve On 26.09.2014 07:25, stepharo wrote: Hi guys do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Test Coverage with Hapao

2014-09-21 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Thanks. Looks like a powerful improvement. --Trygve On 21.09.2014 19:34, Tudor Girba wrote: Class categories are system categories :). Since Pharo 3.0, they are replaced with RPackage. They are still around at the moment as a backup system, but almost everything in the image should now

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Test Coverage with Hapao

2014-09-21 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
Doru, "/Now pay attention class categories will not exist in the future./" I already know about system categories (categories of classes) and method categories within a class. I understood you to mean system categories. What are class categories and why will they be removed? --T

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Test Coverage with Hapao

2014-09-21 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
On 20.09.2014 14:51, stepharo wrote: This is cool I blog about it. Now pay attention class categories will not exist in the future. Stef Any ref to this development?

Re: [Pharo-users] The fourth R

2014-09-12 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
aro evolves not to another programming language but rather to a human language and a human environment liberating the user from the technicalities of the system. Pharo is small but is going to a very promising direction. All hail Pharo :) On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Trygve Reenskaug <m

Re: [Pharo-users] The fourth R

2014-09-11 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
has lost backward compatibility). --Trygve On 11.09.2014 18:10, p...@highoctane.be wrote: "Smalltalk is not a language, it is an object computer" Wow, that nails it quite nicely. And it feels a lot like that, especially with tools like GT-Playground. Now, the most complicated bit i

Re: [Pharo-users] The fourth R

2014-09-11 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
On 07.09.2014 12:29, kilon alios wrote: ... Referring to the rest of your post I dont agree that we need to separate Data from Code, I don't know of anybody who wants to separate data and code. May be you are thinking about DCI without having grokked it. Smalltalk sees an object as an enti

Re: [Pharo-users] The fourth R

2014-09-11 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
its not even environments but tools that are produced in these environments that can vastly automate coding and hide the increasing complexity of coding solutions. Maybe one day a child will be able to describe to a computer what kind of software he or she needs and the computer autom

Re: [Pharo-users] [squeak-dev] ESUG Squeak DCI image posted

2014-08-30 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
t;>BabyIDE1>>BB5Bank opens a DCI browser on the same example. (Recommended as a first study.) enjoy --Trygve On 29.08.2014 06:32, H. Hirzel wrote: Thank you Trygve! Where will the Powerpoint slides / report be posted? --Hannes On 8/18/14, G

Re: [Pharo-users] Can Pharo meet all your computing needs?

2014-08-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
ntial reference --Trygve On 26.08.2014 03:08, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: Hi Wilfred and welcome, I have been lurking at the Smalltalk/Squeak community like from ten years when I used Etoys, Bots Inc and Scratch to teach newbies an introductory course on "informatics" (whic

Re: [Pharo-users] Can Pharo meet all your computing needs?

2014-08-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
m DCI role methods. --Trygve On 26.08.2014 01:33, Wilfred Hughes wrote: Sounds like the Dynabook goal rather overlaps with that of Lisp Machines. The idea of a single system that allows you to modify any part at runtime, inspect any part, or drop into a debugger anywhere is extremely powerful and wo

Re: [Pharo-users] Can Pharo meet all your computing needs?

2014-08-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
lications" in which it is commonplace for users to dig down and modify any level. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Can-Pharo-meet-all-your-computing-needs-tp4774250p4774868.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.

Re: [Pharo-users] Can Pharo meet all your computing needs?

2014-08-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
similar. More like iOS than an app. This is fun --Trygve --- /I am using the term BOOK rather than Dynabook because Alan Kay has the moral copyright to the latter and he may not agree with what we are doing./ On 25.08.2014 16:15, S Krish wrote: " The Dynabook SW architectur

[Pharo-users] DCI

2014-08-26 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
.zip It would be great if we could do serious work on a realization of the Dynabook dream together. Pharo may be a good starting point because its community seems very open to new ideas. Cheers --Trygve PS. The BabyIDE is an application browser rather than a class browser. There is a kind of

Re: [Pharo-users] Can Pharo meet all your computing needs?

2014-08-25 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
(I suppose this is an ST based OS?) Any takers? --Trygve On 23.08.2014 17:04, Wilfred Hughes wrote: Hi folks I've been playing with Pharo recently, and really enjoying writing some programs in the Pharo environment. As a result, I've been wondering if I can use Pharo the

[Pharo-users] ESUG Squeak DCI image posted

2014-08-17 Thread Trygve Reenskaug
runtime!/ --Trygve -- Trygve Reenskaug mailto: tryg...@ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ http://fulloo.info/ N-0378 Oslo http://fullOO.info Norway Mobile: (+47) 468 58 625