On 10/01/20 1:52 p. m., horrido wrote:
> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote
>> But I have not
>> being able to convince any of my coder friends to switch to Pharo
>> instead of C++, Java or Javacript, which by the way, is the language
>> they already know and use to put bread on the table on a
This is exactly why I also push Smalltalk's simplicity. In the 1970s, Per
Brinch Hansen posited that a small, simple language would lead to fewer
programmer errors. The result of his work was the Edison programming
language. It was published in his book, "Programming a Personal Computer,"
which is
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 1:52 PM horrido wrote:
> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote
> > But I have not
> > being able to convince any of my coder friends to switch to Pharo
> > instead of C++, Java or Javacript, which by the way, is the language
> > they already know and use to put bread on th
Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote
> But I have not
> being able to convince any of my coder friends to switch to Pharo
> instead of C++, Java or Javacript, which by the way, is the language
> they already know and use to put bread on the table on a daily basis.
>
> So I think that we deal with
Hi,
(I don't know if there is a netiquete rule of _this list_ about
top-posting inter-posting or bottom-posting, so I will start here).
Is good to see a thread like those with different points, so thanks to
all participants. I agree with several of them.
I think that Smalltalk advocacy is import
itli...@schrievkrom.de wrote
> Am 10.01.20 um 15:42 schrieb horrido:
>
>>
>>> So let's stop trying to convince people with things that mattered some
>>> 20 years ago. Even the function point thingie we keep carrying in front
>>> of our bellies (Capers-Jones was it?) is a lie when you want to bu
Am 10.01.20 um 15:42 schrieb horrido:
>
>> So let's stop trying to convince people with things that mattered some
>> 20 years ago. Even the function point thingie we keep carrying in front
>> of our bellies (Capers-Jones was it?) is a lie when you want to build an
>> application for today's ma
Hi,
Here are dates for the Pharo TechTalks first half of 2020:
January 23: https://association.pharo.org/event-3697009
Thursday 20 https://association.pharo.org/event-3697011
March 19 https://association.pharo.org/event-3697012
April 23 https://association.pharo.org/event-3697013
May 28 https://
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:52:51AM +0100, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote:
>
> I wanted to stay out of this thread, because it leads nowhere. But now
> that I've typed all this, I will push the send button and regret it in a
> few minutes...
Joachim,
Thanks for pushing the send button.
Dave
jtuchel wrote
> Am 10.01.20 um 10:16 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
>> That happened once in the history of Smalltalk and the big player was
>> IBM ...
>
> Well, twice actually ;-)
> Many people might not know that HP once was a Smalltalk vendor with
> their distributed Smalltalk (which was actually a
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 6:53 AM jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
wrote:
> I wanted to stay out of this thread, because it leads nowhere. But now
> that I've typed all this, I will push the send button and regret it in a
> few minutes...
Don't regret it, I like how you wrote and I agree with most of what
After having read this thread, I would like to add an other comment Richard.
It is really super that you are evangelising smalltalk and pharo. The
technology is truly worth it. And I should not try to take away your
enthusiasm.
Best,
Kasper
On 9 January 2020 at 17.07.25, Richard Kenneth Eng (
The problem is that IBM and HP adopted Smalltalk at a time when Smalltalk
wasn't ready nor deserving. There was no major open source Smalltalk. There
were several commercial Smalltalk vendors sniping at each other. Smalltalk
was totally unprepared for the nascent web. Smalltalk was too heavy to run
Am 10.01.20 um 10:16 schrieb Marten Feldtmann:
That happened once in the history of Smalltalk and the big player was
IBM ...
Well, twice actually ;-)
Many people might not know that HP once was a Smalltalk vendor with
their distributed Smalltalk (which was actually a white-label copy of
Visua
That happened once in the history of Smalltalk and the big player was
IBM ... and actually that really showed impact to the Smalltalk market.
Lots of consultings were running around, get pretty much money to teach
COBOL programmers how to use Smalltalk (or to be more precise: learn how
to click pro
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