Re: [Pharo-users] How to detect wheter the computer is connected to the internet ?

On 12/14, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi Dimitris, > > > On 14 Dec 2015, at 07:02, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > > > Hey guys I try to make a way to detect whether my project is up to date and > > if not to update it from the github repo automagically. This part works > > fine , but I will a

Re: [Pharo-users] Small steps in a keyboard driven IDE

Stephan Eggermont writes: > https://vimeo.com/148637679 > > Added a class view that shows the methods. Dragging them out opens > a method card, Shift-RightArrow adds a method card below the class card. > Ctrl-- makes a method card use smaller text, Ctrl-+ larger. On my > machines I have a bug in

Re: [Pharo-users] How to detect wheter the computer is connected to the internet ?

Hi Dimitris, > On 14 Dec 2015, at 07:02, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Hey guys I try to make a way to detect whether my project is up to date and > if not to update it from the github repo automagically. This part works fine > , but I will also like to first detect whether the computer has an

[Pharo-users] How to detect wheter the computer is connected to the internet ?

Hey guys I try to make a way to detect whether my project is up to date and if not to update it from the github repo automagically. This part works fine , but I will also like to first detect whether the computer has an internet connection so to avoid unnecessary errors and checks . Is that possib

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello cannot download the latest zip of a github repo if a zip already exists from a previous commit

Thanks Dale , good news it works on Pharo 5 :) Is there a way to delete the previous data = delete the previous zip file and all its decompressed folders / files ? I can do it manually but I was wondering if metacello offers anything similar. On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:19 AM Dale Henrichs < dale.h

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

That's was it: sanguinity. On 12/14/2015 12:18 AM, Robert Withers wrote: I've always thought that squeak should have a set of measured, communicated emotional layer, but inverted. Measure a positive number that is better when it grows, instead of bad. The system could react to that measure, li

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

I've always thought that squeak should have a set of measured, communicated emotional layer, but inverted. Measure a positive number that is better when it grows, instead of bad. The system could react to that measure, like it's gambling. That would go in the half-layer of the 9 1/2 layer stac

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

In the realm of marketing, having a clear objective is key, to unlock the artifact. Being a kid about it, to dig deeper into the inspirations of otexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib"hers, ignites it. The kindling, however, must be a positive mental attitude (as espoused by ba

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Todd, have you investigated using Squeak/Pharo at the back-end and Amber at the front end? That's where I'm currently targetting my development work. On 14 December 2015 at 01:59, Todd Blanchard wrote: > I've shipped several cordova/phonegap apps. > > It can work for a certain level of simplicit

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

As a person who has posted video of Squeak and Pharo running on Raspberry Pi, I have to disagree with teh statement "Pharo can already run on ... Raspberry PI and works well.". Squeak works well on the Pi, in my experience. It's about an order-of-magnitude more responsive to user input than Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel Slow?

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote >> Is that normal? > No, it's not. Oh good! Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > Can I reproduce it? If true, tell me exactly how (if you give me the image > and tell me which VM you used, even better). It happens consistently when I serialize via: FLSerializer serialize:

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

I've shipped several cordova/phonegap apps. It can work for a certain level of simplicity - but browser based apps don't scratch my itch. I would be more interested in being able to develop a browser based app in Pharo and deploy it to a phone or tablet. > On Dec 13, 2015, at 17:13, horrido

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

I thought so, too, which is why I wrote this tutorial for app development. However, there is some question surrounding Amber's viability in the longer term. And the demand for cross-platform apps may not be as

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello cannot download the latest zip of a github repo if a zip already exists from a previous commit

On 12/13/15 6:28 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: So it looks like that when I do Metacello new baseline: 'ChronosManager'; repository: 'github://kilon/ChronosManager'; load and I have ChronosManager already installed via the same command previously , if the repo has changed in the mean time

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Where do I get this? I have to say I kind of think Pharo is missing the boat with regards to mobile devices. There is a huge demand for a mobile development platform that allows one to write a mobile app that runs the same on Android and iOS. > On Dec 12, 2015, at 03:51, Dimitris Chloupis w

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

I think I asked this before (at the start of the year), but if I were given an actual real-world *enterprise* customer /whom I could interview/ to get the *full story* of how they came to use Smalltalk, especially if they were coming from a major language such as Java, and what their particular cor

Re: [Pharo-users] Magritte Tutorial [Draft]

it is still not at the level I would like. Do not hesitate to propose enhancements. I will add the other tutorial I have rescued. Stef Le 13/12/15 20:48, Julien Delplanque a écrit : Thank you, I was actually looking for tutorials about it. Julien On 13/12/15 11:18, stepharo wrote: Hi guys H

Re: [Pharo-users] Machine Learning in Pharo

Check the sciSmalltalk mailing-list. and the Numerical book Stef Le 13/12/15 21:02, Evan Donahue a écrit : I saw a post on pharo-dev a little while ago about adding some machine learning libraries to pharo, and I was just wondering if there have been any developments on that front. I'm about t

[Pharo-users] New web tutorial

Hi guys with Olivier Auverlot we did several attempts (over the year) and we are happy to release a first draft of a web tutorial around Pharo. We ask the user to build a simple blog engine. It goes over - Mongo - Seaside - Magritte https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/TinyB

[Pharo-users] Machine Learning in Pharo

I saw a post on pharo-dev a little while ago about adding some machine learning libraries to pharo, and I was just wondering if there have been any developments on that front. I'm about to do some machine learning work myself, so it might make sense to coordinate with anyone out there already worki

Re: [Pharo-users] Magritte Tutorial [Draft]

Thank you, I was actually looking for tutorials about it. Julien On 13/12/15 11:18, stepharo wrote: Hi guys Here is the ci of the magritte tutorial that I'm revising and collecting material for https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/Magritte/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-

Re: [Pharo-users] NSGA II Genetic algorithm in SmallTalk/Pharo

Done : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/scismalltalk/PYgp3UPPdS8 CheersAbdelghani De : Serge Stinckwich À : abdelghani ALIDRA ; Any question about pharo is welcome Cc : Gustavo Santos Envoyé le : Dimanche 13 décembre 2015 13h49 Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] NSGA II Genetic algorit

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

On 13-12-15 15:13, horrido wrote: That's an *enormous* amount of work!!! No wonder it hasn't been done yet. Indeed.On the other hand, it doesn't need to be perfect. It is much better done in short iterations. The understanding comes from going through this process often and with many differe

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Excerpts from Dimitris Chloupis's message of 2015-12-13 19:37:30 +0100: > Thank you very much , I will study them one by one :) thank you from me too. i won't be able to work on this soon (need to get the desktop app ready first, which won't happen before the next GSoC, (but it might happen as par

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Thank you very much , I will study them one by one :) On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:31 PM Hilaire wrote: > For iPad, it is gone because I did not renew my developer license, so > Apple remove it from the store. Sorry sorry :( > > Concerning DrGeo on Android, I mostly forgot all the details to build

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

"Fast growth has its problems." I don't think we need to worry about that. Even if we're successful with a marketing campaign, it will take time to aggregate substantial numbers of new Smalltalkers. It may take years to reach the top 20 on Redmond. (We should be so lucky to have this problem.) B

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Python was in the doldrums for the first 13 years of its life. Then, it exploded onto the scene in 2004 (according to TIOBE). Was this because of continuing improvements to CPython during those 13 years? Really? JavaScript has been around since 1995, but what made it the darling of the web in the

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

> kilon.alios wrote >> I think that is why its difficult to bring pharo to diffirent platforms, >> the mentality of pharo and mentality of smalltalk is so specific that does >> not fit easily into other platforms. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 5:45 AM, horrido wrote: > Yes, the mentality of Pharo has n

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

For iPad, it is gone because I did not renew my developer license, so Apple remove it from the store. Sorry sorry :( Concerning DrGeo on Android, I mostly forgot all the details to build it as I did not update it since a couple of years (3 years). Historically Dmitri Golubuvsky helped me a lot to

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Yeah I am interesting to this too, I was not aware Dr. Geo was on Android thats great news. Hilaire why I cannot find Dr. Geo for my iPad mini ? Just got an iPad mini as my Christmas present to myself :) I would love to see a blog post by you how to get Pharo working on Android and iOS . Any poin

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Le 13/12/2015 15:13, horrido a écrit : > I did identify one thing: get high school students (i.e., young people) > interested in Smalltalk. That's why I tried (and failed) to launch the > Canadian Smalltalk Competition. You should understand that I put a LOT of Did you check out what can be done fo

Re: [Pharo-users] Magritte Tutorial [Draft]

The tutorial is awesome! Thank you guys! Alejandro > On Dec 13, 2015, at 7:18 AM, stepharo wrote: > > Hi guys > > Here is the ci of the magritte tutorial that I'm revising and collecting > material for > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/Magritte/lastSuccessfulBuild/art

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Excerpts from Hilaire's message of 2015-12-13 09:38:33 +0100: > Dr. Geo has been ported to Android since alsmost 5 years is there any description about the process involved in porting a pharo application to android? what do i need, how do i start? i am tentatively working on a desktop application

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

That's an *enormous* amount of work!!! No wonder it hasn't been done yet. I did identify one thing: get high school students (i.e., young people) interested in Smalltalk. That's why I tried (and failed) to launch the Canadian Smalltalk Competition. You should understand that I put a LOT of work

[Pharo-users] Metacello cannot download the latest zip of a github repo if a zip already exists from a previous commit

So it looks like that when I do Metacello new baseline: 'ChronosManager'; repository: 'github://kilon/ChronosManager'; load and I have ChronosManager already installed via the same command previously , if the repo has changed in the mean time , it wont get the latest zip from github and instead

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Just to say that Stephan expressed very eloquently my thoughts ! > On Dec 13, 2015, at 08:41, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > On 13-12-15 06:10, horrido wrote: >> Rather than view my posts as accusatory, you should view them as trying to >> steer the collective thinking of a large group toward a m

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

I /did/ write a Smalltalk tutorial: A Gentle Introduction to Amber . It's not as if Pharo needs one. I'm prepared to write a Redline tutorial, if and when James Ladd gets around to completing Redline. stepharo wro

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Okay, the timing of my post was off. Stephan already answered my question about Wardley maps. Good answer, by the way. horrido wrote > Why is this "nonsense"? Are you saying it's not important to make Pharo > applicable to more problem domains? Are you saying that making Pharo > useful to more pe

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Why is this "nonsense"? Are you saying it's not important to make Pharo applicable to more problem domains? Are you saying that making Pharo useful to more people in the IT community is a dumb idea? What am I missing in terms of situational awareness? Clearly, *I am clueless*, because I don't unde

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Python has some books with animals on the cover. In the good old days, this mattered :-) Phil On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > bingo !!! > +1.000.000.000 > > The problem is that there is so much hype about marketing thats easy to > miss the enormous fact that langua

Re: [Pharo-users] NSGA II Genetic algorithm in SmallTalk/Pharo

Hi guys, can you consider joining the SciSmalltalk mailing-list for discussing such things ? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/scismalltalk Thank you. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:50 AM, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an implementation in Smalltalk/Pharo of the multiObjectives G

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

On 13-12-15 06:10, horrido wrote: Rather than view my posts as accusatory, you should view them as trying to steer the collective thinking of a large group toward a more promising direction...which is exactly what they are. My analysis of the situation is objective, *not defamatory*. I see what's

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

bingo !!! +1.000.000.000 The problem is that there is so much hype about marketing thats easy to miss the enormous fact that languages like C, C++, Java and Python are not as popular as they are even with their big flaws without substance , without solving some serious problem that requires seriou

[Pharo-users] Magritte Tutorial [Draft]

Hi guys Here is the ci of the magritte tutorial that I'm revising and collecting material for https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Books/job/Magritte/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/BookletMagritte.pdf If you want to add a chapter let me know. I will add the ticketCorner and/o

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

why don't you spend the time to write such mails into - writing tutorial or - just improving class comments of the well-known classs (such as set, dictionary, booleans, strings), - create videos you would have already an impact. Now you are shouting in the desert and people will just

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Hello, This is free software Darwin evolution :) If you like Pharo Smalltalk, and it looks like you like it, you need to find your place in the Pharo ecosystem and see where you can add value to the ecosystem. You seem to like advocating, so please continue! This is marketing for Pharo for free,

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Le 12/12/2015 12:51, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : > Pharo can already run on iOS and Raspberry PI and works well. > > On Android its still a work in progress but its improving WIP but you can already get it working Dr. Geo has been ported to Android since alsmost 5 years https://play.google.com/sto