Re: [Pharo-users] ICFP contest 4th of August

2015-08-02 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Sorry wrong key it is on the 7th... On 2015-08-02 10:05 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: Hi! Just in case somebody might have missed this: http://icfpcontest.org/ Seabstian

[Pharo-users] ICFP contest 4th of August

2015-08-02 Thread Sebastian Heidbrink
Hi! Just in case somebody might have missed this: http://icfpcontest.org/ Seabstian

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] jdt2famix - an open-source java importer project

2015-08-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi (again), The project below is made possible by JNIPort. Thanks, Joachim! Cheers, Doru On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to announce the jdt2famix project. This aims to be an > open-source solution for importing Java projects into Moose: > http://www

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread Joachim Tuchel
I think nobody's arguing that comparison of Collections is wrong per se. It's just that such an extension should not be part of the core libraries, or put differently, Smalltalk should not be extended in that direction, because the assumptions about what may or may not be the meaning of comparin

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread webwarrior
Your use case (comparing containers using pluggable comparison for items) is pretty common. And what I was suggesting won't solve that problem. However, it will make sequencable collections with comparable items comparable. That's it. If we have comparison defined for Point, why not have it fo

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread Peter Uhnák
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 6:44 PM, webwarrior wrote: > > On 02.08.2015 19:02, Peter Uhnák [via Smalltalk] wrote: > > > (a b c) = (b a c) if a = b > > > > (a b c) < (b a c) if a < b > > The semantics are well defined. > > > > > > Since you mentioned JavaScript, you should know that you ca

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread webwarrior
On 02.08.2015 19:02, Peter Uhnák [via Smalltalk] wrote: > (a b c) = (b a c) if a = b > > (a b c) < (b a c) if a < b > The semantics are well defined. > > > Since you mentioned JavaScript, you should know that you can't compare > arrays with ==, because it does object comparison. > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > (a b c) = (b a c) if a = b (a b c) < (b a c) if a < b > The semantics are well defined. Since you mentioned JavaScript, you should know that you can't compare arrays with ==, because it does object comparison. No. Sorted collection maintains order of its elements, and I'm talking > about or

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> I'd say it is questonable if SequenceableCollections should be comparable by > default. +1 Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread webwarrior
No. Sorted collection maintains order of its elements, and I'm talking about order on [the set of] sequencable collections On 02.08.2015 15:46, jtuchel [via Smalltalk] wrote: > Am 02.08.15 um 14:11 schrieb webwarrior: > > I was surprised when discovered that in Pharo comparison is not > defined

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread webwarrior
On 02.08.2015 15:44, jtuchel [via Smalltalk] wrote: > I'd say it is questonable if SequenceableCollections should be > comparable by default. > > is (a b c) equal or lower than (b a c) ? > Doesn't this depend heavily on what is in the Collection and what the > meaning of the Sequence of two Collec

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Am 02.08.15 um 14:11 schrieb webwarrior: I was surprised when discovered that in Pharo comparison is not defined for lists, arrays and similar datastructures. Because in almost every programming language (F#, Python, Javascript just to name few) you can compare lists, arrays, etc. By convention,

Re: [Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
I'd say it is questonable if SequenceableCollections should be comparable by default. is (a b c) equal or lower than (b a c) ? Doesn't this depend heavily on what is in the Collection and what the meaning of the Sequence of two Collections is? So I'd say there is not much use in putting compa

[Pharo-users] Comparison for SequencableCollection

2015-08-02 Thread webwarrior
I was surprised when discovered that in Pharo comparison is not defined for lists, arrays and similar datastructures. Because in almost every programming language (F#, Python, Javascript just to name few) you can compare lists, arrays, etc. By convention, the ordering is lexicographical, just like

Re: [Pharo-users] Tabular: XLSX import

2015-08-02 Thread Юрий Мироненко
It looks like I need some guidance to understand contemporary packaging/deployment/versioning system. I know it exists, but I don't know details. Can you kick me in the right direction? Maybe some link? 2015-08-02 11:21 GMT+03:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > Hi, > > it would be sooo cool to have a confi

Re: [Pharo-users] Tabular: XLSX import

2015-08-02 Thread Юрий Мироненко
I'm in active development/improvement of this importer just now. So just be sure that you checked comments to the releases uploaded before actually using it. 2015-08-02 11:07 GMT+03:00 Ben Coman : > Cool. I might have a use for this soon. > cheers -ben > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Юрий Ми

Re: [Pharo-users] Tabular: XLSX import

2015-08-02 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, it would be sooo cool to have a configuration in the catalog… Esteban > On 01 Aug 2015, at 20:58, Юрий Мироненко wrote: > > Hello. > Some time ago I announced Tabular > , some effort to make a tool > for spreadsheets import/export. > > Th

Re: [Pharo-users] Tabular: XLSX import

2015-08-02 Thread Ben Coman
Cool. I might have a use for this soon. cheers -ben On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Юрий Мироненко wrote: > Hello. > Some time ago I announced Tabular, some effort to make a tool for > spreadsheets import/export. > > This is short notice: Vincent Blondeau have added XLSX import functionality! >