Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo image processing library

2015-06-30 9:34 GMT+02:00 Serge Stinckwich : > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > 2015-06-25 18:41 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák : > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> is there any image (as in picture) processing library in the likes of > >> Python's PIL(http://effbot.org/imagingbook/im

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Sounds good, could I try it and run all those benchmarks etc. on it on my PCs? Jan Nicolai Hess wrote > Yes, the vm primitives, like I already told some messages above. > FilePrimitives ARE slow on windows. > > We may get better performance, if we disable windows file cache/buffering > and use

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 01:39:25AM +0200, Nicolai Hess wrote: > 2015-07-01 0:39 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > > > Then the only thing I can think of is a vm primitive that is implemented > > differently in linux/mac than windows vm... > > > > Yes, the vm primitives, like I already told some

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

2015-07-01 0:39 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck : > Then the only thing I can think of is a vm primitive that is implemented > differently in linux/mac than windows vm... > Yes, the vm primitives, like I already told some messages above. FilePrimitives ARE slow on windows. We may get better perf

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

I tried Time profiler on |code method| code := 'a'. method := Object compiler source: code; requestor: nil; failBlock: [ ^nil ]; compile. method putSource: code inFile: 2 withPreamble: [:f | f cr; nextPut: $!; nextChunkPut: 'Behavior method'; cr]. desktop: 37.0% {38ms} MultiByteFileStream(Wri

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Then the only thing I can think of is a vm primitive that is implemented differently in linux/mac than windows vm... On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jan Blizničenko wrote: > I'm gonna try to reply to all of you and try your ideas > > > Stephan Eggermont wrote > > On 30-06-15 14:37, Jan Blizniče

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

I'm gonna try to reply to all of you and try your ideas Stephan Eggermont wrote > On 30-06-15 14:37, Jan Blizničenko wrote: >> Unfortunately no - all benchmarks I made with antivirus disabled. > > Including the Microsoft stuff itself? (Security Essentials/Windows > Defender) Does your desktop h

Re: [Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

Stephan Eggermont wrote > Exported read-only view, synchronized every second with the Morphic > cardwall Not bad! I judge that 7/10 on the coolness scale between my two options :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Mofify-websockets-status-to-deliver-SVG

Re: [Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

On 30/06/15 22:56, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Stephan Eggermont wrote Screenshot from 2015-06-30 22:46:08.png (110K) ; I'm not following. What is the screenshot? A working app in the browser? an exported

Re: [Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

Stephan Eggermont wrote > Screenshot from 2015-06-30 22:46:08.png (110K) > ; I'm not following. What is the screenshot? A working app in the browser? an exported read-only view? - Cheers, Sean -- V

Re: [Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

Nice ! > On 30 Jun 2015, at 22:46, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > On 30-06-15 22:16, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> Use ZnLogEvent, for example, by using #logToTranscript. > > Thanks, I managed to get it to work. > > Stephan > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

On 30-06-15 22:16, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Use ZnLogEvent, for example, by using #logToTranscript. Thanks, I managed to get it to work. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Modern Events Touch and Gestures in Pharo.

Awesome! There's a reasonable chance that I can contribute to this (or at least utilize it), depending on what contracts I get. If I do get that in the near future, who do I contact about contributing? Cheers, Jeff On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:18 PM stepharo wrote: > Thanks Thales for the sponsor

Re: [Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

Use ZnLogEvent, for example, by using #logToTranscript. > On 30 Jun 2015, at 22:09, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > Now the cardwall can export SVG, I thought it would be nice > to modify & reuse the websockets status code to serve the SVG. > How do I debug that? > > Stephan > >

[Pharo-users] Mofify websockets status to deliver SVG?

Now the cardwall can export SVG, I thought it would be nice to modify & reuse the websockets status code to serve the SVG. How do I debug that? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

On 2015/06/30 07:42 PM, Peter Uhnák wrote: Debian (host) "'4,855 per second'" Ubuntu (vbox) "'4,709 per second'" Win XP (vbox) "'504.099 per second'" My my Win 7 (host) ( i7 CPU @ 2.10GHz) => 862.000 per second Still a far cry from what the Linux boxes do. I'm watching with interest. Crai

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] DragPanels: Floating palette windows with drag-and-drop in Morphic

The export as SVG is indeed easy. I've added this helper class to CardsMorphic-StephanEggermont.56 It is not well-factored, and for now ignores font families. A class helper method to directly create a file: CardSvgWriter class>newFile: aString on: aCardWall ^self new write: aCardWall to

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

> On 30 Jun 2015, at 19:42, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > Debian (host) "'4,855 per second'" > > Ubuntu (vbox) "'4,709 per second'" > > Win XP (vbox) "'504.099 per second'" > > The difference here is just one order of magnitude and not two... so maybe I > should take apart CompileMethod>>putSource:

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Debian (host) "'4,855 per second'" Ubuntu (vbox) "'4,709 per second'" Win XP (vbox) "'504.099 per second'" The difference here is just one order of magnitude and not two... so maybe I should take apart CompileMethod>>putSource:inFile:withPreambule statement by statement. Is there some more conv

Re: [Pharo-users] how to get all the send to super?

Tx! Stef Le 28/6/15 17:40, Camille a écrit : On 28 Jun 2015, at 17:25, stepharo > wrote: Hi I would like to study the use of super. Any idea how I can query them? Hi Stef, To get all methods that have a super send you can do: superSenders := CompiledMethod allIns

[Pharo-users] does anybody use the AST navigation?

Hi guys does any of you use the AST code navigation? Because we could remove it. Stef

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Le 30/6/15 14:39, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de a écrit : Ah, Okay, you are mentioning the one and only one case in which this could make sense ;-) Something like stream next ifNil: [^stream next]. so ugly. Please we should not teach how to do exception with blocks :) So there may be cases

[Pharo-users] Modern Events Touch and Gestures in Pharo.

Thanks Thales for the sponsoring. https://youtu.be/eNrbH8A5nyY Stef and the rmod team

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

> On 30 Jun 2015, at 18:36, Peter Uhnák wrote: > > I think we've safely established that the bottleneck is disk operations. Let's take it one level down then, [ 'foo.txt' asFileReference in: [ :file | file writeStreamDo: [ :out | 3 timesRepeat: [ out << String loremIpsum ] ]. fil

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

I think we've safely established that the bottleneck is disk operations. Quoting from previous emails... store := [ method putSource: code inFile: 2 withPreamble: [:f | f cr; nextPut: $!; nextChunkPut: 'Behavior method'; cr]. ]. machine 1: Debian 64bit (laptop) store bench. 41604 per second Win

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:03 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Silly question: do you have a couple of Nautilus windows open? > > Loading stuff generates annoucements and Nautilus updates are killing > performance. > And previously TestRunner too (don;t know now) > Phil > Le 30 juin 2015 00:36,

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

On 30/06/15 01:32, Nicolai Hess wrote: 2015-06-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris >: Peter Uhnák wrote > It seems that > > is then the go-to naming for now I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Silly question: do you have a couple of Nautilus windows open? Loading stuff generates annoucements and Nautilus updates are killing performance. Phil Le 30 juin 2015 00:36, "Jan Blizničenko" a écrit : > And one another benchmark of linux in VM on that desktop PC: > Roassal loading - 58 s > com

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

Ben Coman wrote > I find myself liking the last two... Actually... maybe using > > together with > > will distinguish the most between the two cases I agree that any of those would be fine. I kind of like your last suggestion, in fact. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: h

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

I would check the processes running and CPU of Windows while loading the code... On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 30-06-15 14:37, Jan Blizničenko wrote: > >> Unfortunately no - all benchmarks I made with antivirus disabled. >> > > Including the Microsoft stuff itse

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

On 30-06-15 14:37, Jan Blizničenko wrote: Unfortunately no - all benchmarks I made with antivirus disabled. Including the Microsoft stuff itself? (Security Essentials/Windows Defender) Does your desktop have a drive > 2TB? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

Cool stuff. Let's keep on truckin' This makes for interesting Roassal interactions. Phil Le 30 juin 2015 13:49, "Sean P. DeNigris" a écrit : > > stepharo wrote > > Interactive table support in Pharo > > Wow! > > > > - > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.

Re: [Pharo-users] RAM-efficient alternative to ZnMultiPartFormDataEntity

mikefilonov wrote > Thank you for the link. It is a useful example of how ajax upload can be > implemented in Seaside. > > However, by looking at the code which works without nginx plugin I see the > project does not change the mechanism of request reading, meaning if you > upload 1Gb file you st

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Peter Uhnák wrote >> It seems that >> >> is then the go-to naming for now > > I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't > quite sound right. > > Sample and Example are the two words that most clearly captu

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

we really should get rid of the .changes file… it would simplify things a lot. > On 30 Jun 2015, at 15:02, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Can you think of any other window process that could be detecting changes all > the time in .changes and therefore have an impact in the performance? Do y

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Can you think of any other window process that could be detecting changes all the time in .changes and therefore have an impact in the performance? Do you have such pharo image in dropbox or similar service? On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Jan Blizničenko wrote: > Unfortunately no - all benchma

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Unfortunately no - all benchmarks I made with antivirus disabled. Mariano Martinez Peck wrote > Do you have antivirus running in windows that may be bothering with > .changes? > Please try temporary disable antivirus and try again. > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Vie

Re: [Pharo-users] Setting GUI pointer's position

For a deep hack, you might look at Tools>ProcessBrowser and see the event loop of Input Event Fetcher calls a method in which you might put a #haltOnce and trace on from there to find a suitable place to inject the mouse position you want. Otherwise maybe look at how EventRecorder works... http://

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Ah, Okay, you are mentioning the one and only one case in which this could make sense ;-) Something like stream next ifNil: [^stream next]. So there may be cases where the two sends do not return the same result. But that is, of course, not what the OP suggested. Nevertheless, I was too

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

ah yeah :) I assumed first "something aMsg" ~= second "something aMsg” In case is the same, the correct way is as you say: ^ something aMsg ifNil: [ anotherResult ] (sorry, he :P) > On 30 Jun 2015, at 13:43, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > > Am 30.06.15 um 13:40 schrieb Peter Uhnák: >> M

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Thanks eveybody, ^ something aMsg ifNotNil: [ aNotherResult ]is much more prety indded :) Abdelghani De : Peter Uhnák À : abdelghani ALIDRA ; Any question about pharo is welcome Envoyé le : Mardi 30 juin 2015 13h26 Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result No nee

Re: [Pharo-users] Chess Game / UpdatingStringMorph

stepharo wrote > Polling is a bad idea from an architecture point of view. And dated :) While in this case that might be true (I haven't looked at the code), IMHO it's overstated to say that polling is always a bad idea. For exploratory spikes, mockups, throwaway tools, etc it can be very useful.

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

stepharo wrote > Interactive table support in Pharo Wow! - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Interactive-table-support-in-Pharo-thanks-to-the-new-OS-window-architecture-tp4834788p4834860.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabb

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

Do you have antivirus running in windows that may be bothering with .changes? Please try temporary disable antivirus and try again. On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Jan Blizničenko wrote: > I ran it in Pharo 4 (40616) because method putSource:inFile:withPreamble: > no > longer exists in Pharo 5

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Yeah, that should be >something aMsg ifNil: [ ^ nil ]< I thought you were referring to something else originally. :) On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:43 PM, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de < jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> wrote: > Am 30.06.15 um 13:40 schrieb Peter Uhnák: > >> Make sense if there's code in between. >

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Am 30.06.15 um 13:40 schrieb Peter Uhnák: Make sense if there's code in between. not sure what you're saying. I mean, sending the message twice makes sense if you already know the outcome? Hmmm... something aMsg ifNil:[ ^ something aMsg ]. "yay for guards!" "much more code" ^ aNotherResult

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Make sense if there's code in between. something aMsg ifNil:[ ^ something aMsg ]. "yay for guards!" "much more code" ^ aNotherResult Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Ah, C'mon Esteban! This one is not a question of style: something aMsg ifNil:[ ^ something aMsg ]. ^ aNotherResult What the heck ... ??? ;- Sorry, I couldn't resist ;-) See you in Brescia! Joachim -- --- Objektfabrik Jo

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

> On 30 Jun 2015, at 1:21 , abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Hi guys, > > what is the best way to express the following : > return (something aMsg) if it is not nil, return somethingElse elsewhere > > I could stil write: > > something aMsg > ifNil:[^ something aMsg] > ifNotNil:[^aNotherRe

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

all is valid and a matter of style. You can also do this: ^ something aMsg ifNotNil:[ aNotherResult ] ifNil:[ something aMsg ] or this: something aMsg ifNil:[ ^ something aMsg ]. ^ aNotherResult cheers, Esteban > On 30 Jun 2015, at 13:21, abdelghani ALIDRA wrote: > > Hi guys, > >

Re: [Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

No need to have both if you are returning the receiver. ^ something aMsg ifNotNil: [ aNotherResult ] For example try printing these two lines 1 ifNotNil: [ true ]. "true" nil ifNotNil: [ true ]. "nil" If you are interested in the implementation details I highly recommend to look at the implement

[Pharo-users] an elegant way to return a result

Hi guys, what is the best way to express the following :return (something aMsg) if it is not nil, return somethingElse elsewhere I could stil write: something aMsg ifNil:[^ something aMsg]ifNotNil:[^aNotherResult] but it sounds a little bit weird Regards. Abdelghani

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

the little lag we see is due to the bad quality of the table (we did not want to bullet proof the test scenario). ;) Le 30/6/15 11:03, stepharo a écrit : spread the words ;) Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture) https://youtu.be/0sIX3YbO-XY

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

And what do I need to build/use such a table? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

On 30-06-15 11:03, stepharo wrote: spread the words ;) Done Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture) https://youtu.be/0sIX3YbO-XY Thanks Thales for the sponsoring! Nice, indeed! Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

> On 30 Jun 2015, at 11:10, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Very cool! Indeed. > Doru > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thierry Goubier > wrote: > Cool :) > > Thierry > > > 2015-06-30 11:03 GMT+02:00 stepharo : > spread the words ;) > > Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the n

[Pharo-users] Glamour: opening paths in tree with filters

Hi, I am having trouble with opening a specific path in tree presentation (using MorphTreeMorph) when filtering nodes. What I am trying to achieve is that if a node is searched in a tree at level 4, all the parent nodes are opened to show the node searched (hence the user the does not need to ope

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

Very cool! Doru On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Cool :) > > Thierry > > > 2015-06-30 11:03 GMT+02:00 stepharo : > >> spread the words ;) >> >> Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window >> architecture) >> https://youtu.be/0sIX3YbO-XY >> >

Re: [Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

Cool :) Thierry 2015-06-30 11:03 GMT+02:00 stepharo : > spread the words ;) > > Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window > architecture) > https://youtu.be/0sIX3YbO-XY > > Thanks Thales for the sponsoring! > >

[Pharo-users] Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture)

spread the words ;) Interactive table support in Pharo (thanks to the new OS window architecture) https://youtu.be/0sIX3YbO-XY Thanks Thales for the sponsoring!

Re: [Pharo-users] Chess Game / UpdatingStringMorph

Le 30/6/15 10:12, Merwan Ouddane a écrit : On lun., 2015-06-29 at 14:09 -0700, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: MerwanOuddane wrote You should just replace it with a StringMorph and figure out how to update the morph right on time :) It seems like there should be Morph>>#addAlarm:every:, but I don't

Re: [Pharo-users] Chess Game / UpdatingStringMorph

I think that if you use StringMorph it will work. We should accept that Pharo is moving and that some old abstractions were not good. :) You do not want something doing constant polling in the UI. Stef Le 29/6/15 21:17, Volkert a écrit : I am trying to load the old chess game from Squeak [1]

Re: [Pharo-users] Chess Game / UpdatingStringMorph

On lun., 2015-06-29 at 14:09 -0700, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > MerwanOuddane wrote > > You should just replace it with a StringMorph and figure out how to > > update the morph right on time :) > > It seems like there should be Morph>>#addAlarm:every:, but I don't see > anything like that... > Is

Re: [Pharo-users] Slow compilation on one of my Windows PCs

I ran it in Pharo 4 (40616) because method putSource:inFile:withPreamble: no longer exists in Pharo 5 and results are: Desktop... all: 13.062 per second compile: 6,603 per second (why the hell is there comma as separator and not dot?) store: 13.431 per second add: 406.400 per second Notebook... a

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo image processing library

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > 2015-06-25 18:41 GMT+02:00 Peter Uhnák : >> >> Hi, >> >> is there any image (as in picture) processing library in the likes of >> Python's PIL(http://effbot.org/imagingbook/image.htm), >> >> or even (highly unlikely) something like OpenCV

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

2015-06-30 9:09 GMT+02:00 Stephan Eggermont : > On 29-06-15 20:10, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> I strongly feel we should be >> more specific and uniform by either using ( & >> ) or ( & ). >> > > +1 Be specific. +1 too > > > Stephan > > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] pragmas and example* methods use-cases

On 29-06-15 20:10, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: I strongly feel we should be more specific and uniform by either using ( & ) or ( & ). +1 Be specific. Stephan

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