Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > I thnk that rather than focus on the disk format which I hardly ever > actually look at ... that folks should be looking at tools support (like > Thierry) ... this is where the real work needs to happen ... good tools can > hide the disk fomat completely so why does the disk format matter ...

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread stepharo
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo. Stef Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit : Oh, I kn

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 08/04/2015 02:05, Dale Henrichs a écrit : Peter, That looks like a bug in the FileTree writer ... wiht one method change there should have been only one method property file change ... Yes, I'd agree. This is surprising. Unless you had been loading that package via another repository / an

Re: [Pharo-users] class variable accessor naming

2015-04-07 Thread Christian Caldeiro
Class variables should be written with Uppercase (but there are some classes in Pharo that don't follow this convention). Class methods (accessors in this case) are written in lowercase. Again, you can find several samples in Pharo. Thanks Christian On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Jan B. wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Sean, My mail may have been a bit harsh, so please read my reply to Peter ... where I think I take a bit more positive tack:) I am really pressed for time so I don't have the luxury to blue sky ideas ... but I will make the time to review any code contributions that folks have ... Dale On

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Peter, That looks like a bug in the FileTree writer ... wiht one method change there should have been only one method property file change ... Peter and Sean, If you are interested in contributing code/bugfixes to FileTree, I will welcome pull requests ... As I have mentioned in several post

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Sean, The primary reason that the method properties.json file exists is to preserve the date and timestamp for monticello ... git doesn't need this but, to be able to seamlessly copy monticello files from filetree to mcz and back again without losing data the information has to be stored some

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
Yeah, I do use the MergeDriver and it saved me a lot of headache, but when I see things like this https://github.com/dynacase/dynacase/commit/90141d63bfdd433e51a768c2191e035b76c5da83 where one five lines long method generated 14 file changes with 180 additions and 172 deletions... it makes the lo

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Dale Henrichs-3 wrote > Personally I use > https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/GitFileTree-MergeDriver and never > think twice about the properties files ... Ooh, intriguing. In other to make it easier to view code on GitHub, I've been toying with the idea of generating one-class-per-file in addit

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
and if we remove the method properties from FileTree, then the monticello files stored there could not be transparently copied into and out of a FileTree repo ... and FileTree is SCM neutral ... Personally I use https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/GitFileTree-MergeDriver and never think twice a

Re: [Pharo-users] String operations

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
> 'BormParticipant' allButFirst: 4 ('BormParticipant' splitOn: 'Borm') last Thank you both, this will work. :) In the Moose configuration, there is a CollectionExtensions that allows you > to do this: > 'BormParticipant' removePrefix: 'Borm' "-> 'Participant'". > 'BormParticipant' removeSuffix:

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec with dynamic tabs

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
Can you add an issue for Pharo 5 so it doesn't get lost? Currently a lot of effort is focused on Pharo 4 release (this week-ish), so nobody might have time to look at this now. Peter On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Hartmut wrote: > Hi to all, > > I'm working with Spec and appreciate the modular

Re: [Pharo-users] ZnClient: getting more that 19 tweet for data scrapping

2015-04-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
What Paul showed is basically just a hack. What you probably what is full API access to Twitter, that gives you the real thing, but it is more work and you have to understand all the technical details (unless somebody already did it for you, I don't know - I know that Zinc-SSO can connect to Tw

[Pharo-users] ZnClient: getting more that 19 tweet for data scrapping

2015-04-07 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, Recently Paul DeBruicker taught me how to refine my code for getting tweets properly. Consider this: =[1] | source anUrl tweet | anUrl := 'https://twitter.com/offrayLC'. source := Soup fromString: (ZnEasy get: anUrl ) contents asString. tweets := (sourc

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating ZeroConf! Please do not use it until new advice!

2015-04-07 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Yep, Thanks a lot Esteban. A memorable future is comming :-) Cheers, Offray El 07/04/15 a las 11:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe escribió: Good work, thanks. On 07 Apr 2015, at 17:24, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: ok… success :) now, this is the change: from now, each version is married with one vm

Re: [Pharo-users] Devnology presentation slides

2015-04-07 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 07/04/15 18:52, Thierry Goubier wrote: such narratives are important. Pharo uses a very simple and orthogonal language, using a very small set of constructs. I allways tend to complement with: but this very small set of constructs contains all the needed features for building highly com

Re: [Pharo-users] Showcase of initial support for word clouds and data scrapping (and the usual newbie questions)

2015-04-07 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Thanks Nicolai, you were right. The problem was not on the image format, but on the parsing of the date. It was just that my non working test were located at places where, coincidentally, the images were on jpg format and I was misreading the signals :-). Now both, date scrapping/formating and

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Ohh Ok. I need to learn more metacello/monticello to make this, but thanks for pointing it. Cheers, Offray El 07/04/15 a las 09:58, Cyril Ferlicot escribió: Just put it into the 'ConfigurationOfYourProject' class. Class side. On 7 April 2015 at 16:50, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas mailto:off

Re: [Pharo-users] class variable accessor naming

2015-04-07 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Jan B. wrote > Hello > > Class variable names should start with capital letter (as I just found > out), like RecentProjects. We have a getter to it. Should such accessor > method be named recentProjects or RecentProjects? > > ... class#>>(r/R)ecentProjects > ^ RecentProjects > > Jan --

[Pharo-users] class variable accessor naming

2015-04-07 Thread Jan B.
Hello Class variable names should start with capital letter (as I just found out), like RecentProjects. We have a getter to it. Should such accessor method be named recentProjects or RecentProjects? ... class#>>(r/R)ecentProjects ^ RecentProjects Jan -- View this message in context: htt

Re: [Pharo-users] Devnology presentation slides

2015-04-07 Thread Thierry Goubier
Thanks Stephan, such narratives are important. Pharo uses a very simple and orthogonal language, using a very small set of constructs. I allways tend to complement with: but this very small set of constructs contains all the needed features for building highly complex, understandable and r

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread garduino
philippeback wrote > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk < > yuriy.tymchuk@ > > wrote: > > I think http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/ is using a Smalltalk engine. But I > do not know if it is public. > > Phil > >> Uko >> Good catch! >From the about page: This blog began life as a set

Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link

2015-04-07 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
Thanks, Cyril! We bumped into the internal link (with label) limitation, too, in Updated Pharo by Example ( https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample/issues/10#issuecomment-89044176 ). So, +1 interest to that feature, here :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Cyril Ferli

Re: [Pharo-users] Devnology presentation slides

2015-04-07 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 02/04/15 23:18, Stephan Eggermont wrote: Diego and I presented Pharo at the Devnology meeting in Arnhem. http://www.slideshare.net/StephanEggermont/pharo-devnology20150401 And a narrative: Pharo, the Immersive Programming Experience Why do we choose to use Pharo? We feel that Pharo provid

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 07/04/15 10:28, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. >Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, >the last commit was done by me and it was 2 mo

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating ZeroConf! Please do not use it until new advice!

2015-04-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Good work, thanks. > On 07 Apr 2015, at 17:24, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > ok… success :) > now, this is the change: > > from now, each version is married with one vm. > > so, if you download /30+vm it will download the Pharo30 image with its > corresponding "vm30" > > which means some li

Re: [Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Peter, Le 07/04/2015 17:39, Peter Uhnák a écrit : Hi, are "methodProperties.json" files needed? No. Every time someone makes even small changes it is accompanied by ten times more json file changes which is a mess. Yes, it creates quite some noise on the git logs and diffs. So is it

[Pharo-users] Metacello GIT methodProperties.json

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
Hi, are "methodProperties.json" files needed? Every time someone makes even small changes it is accompanied by ten times more json file changes which is a mess. So is it needed with git? Cannot the information be retrieved from git commits? Thanks, Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread Dmitri Zagidulin
You may also want to take a look at PillarHub ( http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~mikefilonov/PillarHub ) CMS. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I k

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating ZeroConf! Please do not use it until new advice!

2015-04-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
ok… success :) now, this is the change: from now, each version is married with one vm. so, if you download /30+vm it will download the Pharo30 image with its corresponding "vm30" which means some links do not have sense anymore: /vm /vmLatest but you have /vm12 ... /vm20 /vm30 /vm40 /vmL

Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
Ok, keep me posted. Thanks, Peter On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > Hi ! > Inter-File link are on the TODO list of pillar. Currently you can't. > I'm working on Pillar now, if i add inter-file link i'll say it to you ! > > On 7 April 2015 at 16:45, Peter Uhnák wrote: > >>

Re: [Pharo-users] pillar internal link

2015-04-07 Thread Cyril Ferlicot
Hi ! Inter-File link are on the TODO list of pillar. Currently you can't. I'm working on Pillar now, if i add inter-file link i'll say it to you ! On 7 April 2015 at 16:45, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > how does one add an internal link? > I have chapter 'Framework' (and file 'Framework/Framework

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Cyril Ferlicot
Just put it into the 'ConfigurationOfYourProject' class. Class side. On 7 April 2015 at 16:50, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Thanks Cyril, > > The class that contain the catalog methods must be named 'Catalog' or > something special? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > El 07/04/15 a las 07:51, C

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating ZeroConf! Please do not use it until new advice!

2015-04-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Ok, retrying. DO NOT USE THEM! Esteban > On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:20, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > ok, you can use it now. Update failed and I need to leave for half na hour…. > I will retry later. > > cheers, > Esteban > >> On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:03, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >> that… we

[Pharo-users] pillar internal link

2015-04-07 Thread Peter Uhnák
Hi, how does one add an internal link? I have chapter 'Framework' (and file 'Framework/Framework.pillar') and 'Palette' (and file 'Palette/Palette.pillar') Can I in Framework.pillar write something like *Palette/Palette* to create a link? Currently it fails at *** Warning: PRReferenceNotFound: C

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Thanks Cyril, The class that contain the catalog methods must be named 'Catalog' or something special? Cheers, Offray El 07/04/15 a las 07:51, Cyril Ferlicot escribió: Example with Cocoon: catalogContactInfo ^ 'The creator of Cocoon is Stephan Ducasse with the help of Cyril Ferlicot

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating ZeroConf! Please do not use it until new advice!

2015-04-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
ok, you can use it now. Update failed and I need to leave for half na hour…. I will retry later. cheers, Esteban > On 07 Apr 2015, at 16:03, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > that… we need to change it :P

[Pharo-users] Updating ZeroConf! Please do not use it until new advice!

2015-04-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
that… we need to change it :P

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 07/04/2015 14:51, Cyril Ferlicot a écrit : Example with Cocoon: catalogContactInfo ^ 'The creator of Cocoon is Stephan Ducasse with the help of Cyril Ferlicot. The website is at *http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/Cocoon/*.' catalogDescription ^ 'An application configurat

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
thank you Cyril :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > Example with Cocoon: > > catalogContactInfo > ^ 'The creator of Cocoon is Stephan Ducasse with the help of Cyril > Ferlicot. > The website is at *http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/Cocoon/*.' > > catalogDescr

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Cyril Ferlicot
Example with Cocoon: catalogContactInfo ^ 'The creator of Cocoon is Stephan Ducasse with the help of Cyril Ferlicot. The website is at *http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/Cocoon/*.' catalogDescription ^ 'An application configuration system using JSON. I manage a set of properties

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
do the first and second return strings ? for the third one I will need more info. is it an array of literals like ^#( #python #database #pharo4 ) ? On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > yes, they have to return certain values: > > catalogDescription ^ A small paragraph d

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes, they have to return certain values: catalogDescription ^ A small paragraph describing your project. catalogContactInfo ^ Contact information such as email, mailing lists and website. catalogKeywords ^ An array of keys to better index your project :) explanation could be better… bu

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
Esteban about how to add projects to catalog page. Could you add examples of those methods ? For example are they suppose to return values ? How should they be defined ? I want to add info for my project Ephestos On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > http://catalog.pharo.or

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get the list of projects on SmalltalkHub?

2015-04-07 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
http://catalog.pharo.org shows you all projects registered (not just on sthub) http://smalltalkhub.com/list shows you a list of all public repositories in sthub (not always equivalent to a project) and yes… this information is not very p

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > Hi, > > if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I know that there > is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo > website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit > was d

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldn’t find where. Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website? Uko > On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou wrote: > > > Yuriy Tymchuk writes: > >> if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I know

Re: [Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread Damien Cassou
Yuriy Tymchuk writes: > if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I know that > there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in > 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, > the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will

[Pharo-users] Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)

2015-04-07 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi, if I want to create a site/blog in pharo… What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolv

Re: [Pharo-users] Showcase of initial support for word clouds and data scrapping (and the usual newbie questions)

2015-04-07 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-04-07 2:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas : > Hi all, > > On [1] you can see a small video showing the support for word clouds and > data scrapping from Twitter for some public profiles (including mine). As > you can see the visualization is embedded on grafoscopio trees/documents >

Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

2015-04-07 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 05 Apr 2015, at 10:46, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > Le 04/04/2015 18:02, stepharo a écrit : >> Thierry >> >> this means that generating ring objects would help you? > > Maybe. Or maybe unifying Ring with what RB already does with its models > (RBClass, etc...), and ensuring that Opal can w

Re: [Pharo-users] How to silently generate and remove code

2015-04-07 Thread Luc Fabresse
2015-04-05 15:07 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman : > > What would be exciting is in a "host-image" being able to generate an > empty special-object Root-Object (like is held by the VM) as a guest-image > inside the host-image, so you can push core elements into it until the > guest is a running minimal-image