Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-25 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Dave Page wrote: >> heh I'm with Robert on that PGXN just sounds and speels weird - PGAN was >> much easier ;) > > +1 Seriously? To me, “pee-gan” just didn't sound nice. And the acronym, “PostgreSQL Add-on Network,” wasn't as good, since it's mainly extension-focus

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-17 Thread Greg Smith
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Anyone volunteering ... ? Adding is simple enough ... I can help with moderating announce, having now gotten used to doing the similar chore for things submitted to the web site for a few months. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Servi

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-17 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Marc G. Fournier's message of jue jun 17 10:47:41 -0400 2010: > I sooo agree here ... and to make matters worse, when I go through all > of the groups once a week, I find a half dozen or more postings that > 'slipped through the cracks' that should have been approved, but weren

Re: [pgsql-www] ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-17 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 13:22 +, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > > > What I'm referring to? The fact that at least last time I was looking > > at this, most (all other?) moderators *only* approve things. And never > > reject them, instead le

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010, Magnus Hagander wrote: What I'm referring to? The fact that at least last time I was looking at this, most (all other?) moderators *only* approve things. And never reject them, instead letting the timeout take care of things thatn shouldn't be posted. That means that if th

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-17 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 > What I'm referring to? The fact that at least last time I was looking > at this, most (all other?) moderators *only* approve things. And never > reject them, instead letting the timeout take care of things thatn > shouldn't be posted. Certain

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-17 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:29, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> >>> Why is there significant delay on important posts, yet some posts go >>> almost straight though? Every time I use Announce my posts are delayed >>> for about 4-5 days. >>> >>> Why do some post

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Josh Berkus wrote: Why is there significant delay on important posts, yet some posts go almost straight though? Every time I use Announce my posts are delayed for about 4-5 days. Why do some posts jump the queue, appearing to imply the moderator is being selective in rele

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 16:08 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> Hmmm. Yet nothing seems to get approved unless I personal e-mail Marc. > >> Why? > > > > I approved stuff today and yesterday. I didn't the week before because I > > was in Chicago. I also normally don't moderate on the weekends. I was >

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Josh Berkus
>> Hmmm. Yet nothing seems to get approved unless I personal e-mail Marc. >> Why? > > I approved stuff today and yesterday. I didn't the week before because I > was in Chicago. I also normally don't moderate on the weekends. I was > the one that approved the PGXN email for example. This week i

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 01:17 +0300, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > I don't moderate -announce. Sorry. I thought you did. JD -- PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 503.667.4564 Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering -- Sent via

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 15:01 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > > And me, and devrim and a number of others. > > Hmmm. Yet nothing seems to get approved unless I personal e-mail Marc. > Why? I approved stuff today and yesterday. I didn't the week before because I was in Chicago. I also normally don't m

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
I don't moderate -announce. -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ PostgreSQL DBA @ Akinon/Markafoni, Red Hat Certified Engineer devrim~gunduz.org, devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.gunduz.org Twitter: http://twitter.com/devrimgunduz 17.Haz.2010 tarihinde 00:58 saatinde, "Joshua D. Drake"

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Josh Berkus
> And me, and devrim and a number of others. Hmmm. Yet nothing seems to get approved unless I personal e-mail Marc. Why? -- -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://www.pgexperts.

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:34 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Why is there significant delay on important posts, yet some posts go > > almost straight though? Every time I use Announce my posts are delayed > > for about 4-5 days. > > > > Why do some posts jump the queue, appearing to imply the moderato

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Cédric Villemain
2010/6/16 David E. Wheeler : > On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > >> I think this project is a great idea, and I think as a community we >> ought to be behind it 100%. >> >> However, I do wonder what happened to the original name, which IIRC >> was PGAN.  That seems easier to pronoun

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 13:05 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:27, Simon Riggs wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:12 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > >> This was just posted to announce. > > > > I notice you mention that this was just posted to the ANNOUNCE list. > > > >

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 13:22 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I actually like PGXN. PGXN is marketable. Yeah that may not be what > > -hackers are after but if I stand up in front of a Fortune 500 company > > and say, "We have PGXN" it sounds a heck of a lot better that PGAN. > > I think the attrac

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Josh Berkus
Why is there significant delay on important posts, yet some posts go almost straight though? Every time I use Announce my posts are delayed for about 4-5 days. Why do some posts jump the queue, appearing to imply the moderator is being selective in releasing some, yet not others? Do we need so

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 09:03 +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > > David E. Wheeler wrote: > > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > > > > > >> I think this project is a great idea, and I think as a community we > > >> ought to be behind it 100%. > > >> > > >

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
David E. Wheeler wrote: > Honestly, I didn't realize anyone was attached to ?PGAN.? > > Frankly, I blame whoever named PostgreSQL itself and came up with the > short version, ?PG.? Nothing but pigs out of that. I finally understand how pig-squeal is a short-form of PostgreSQL (PG-SQL). :-O Yet

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 09:03 +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > David E. Wheeler wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > > > >> I think this project is a great idea, and I think as a community we > >> ought to be behind it 100%. > >> > >> However, I do wonder what happened to

Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:27, Simon Riggs wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:12 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> This was just posted to announce. > > I notice you mention that this was just posted to the ANNOUNCE list. > > Who is it that moderates the announce list? I can't answer this part, jus

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > David E. Wheeler wrote: >> >> On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: >> >>> I think this project is a great idea, and I think as a community we >>> ought to be behind it 100%. >>> >>> However, I do wonder what happened to the

ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Simon Riggs
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:12 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > This was just posted to announce. I notice you mention that this was just posted to the ANNOUNCE list. Who is it that moderates the announce list? The postings made by David Fetter on 13 June and postings by David Wheeler on 15 June were

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-16 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
David E. Wheeler wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: I think this project is a great idea, and I think as a community we ought to be behind it 100%. However, I do wonder what happened to the original name, which IIRC was PGAN. That seems easier to pronounce, remember, ...

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I totaly agreed you need funding, and you are very well qualified to do > > this, and it is a badly needed facility. > > Thanks. > > > The problem I had is that the effort appeared to be "I am creating my > > own s

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:42:59PM -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > I totaly agreed you need funding, and you are very well qualified to do > > this, and it is a badly needed facility. > > Thanks. > > > The problem I had is that the effort

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I totaly agreed you need funding, and you are very well qualified to do > this, and it is a badly needed facility. Thanks. > The problem I had is that the effort appeared to be "I am creating my > own sandbox, fund me" (particularly the FAQ), w

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > I think this project is a great idea, and I think as a community we > ought to be behind it 100%. > > However, I do wonder what happened to the original name, which IIRC > was PGAN. That seems easier to pronounce, remember, ... I didn't care for

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > This was just posted to announce.  Seems the community now has to > compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get > around to developing one of our own. > > I personally had no knowledge of this, which is fine, but don't

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > > > One issue that will come up: this is clearly a more commercial > > enterprise than Jarkko's CPAN (and the internet is a different place > > than it was in 1995) You pushed money right to the front with this, so >

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Josh Berkus
On 6/15/10 2:06 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > You pushed money right to the front with this, so > that will lead to certain questions concerning ownership of what > arguably should be community resources: the IP of the aggregate index, > for example. Oh, good point. We clearly need a FAQ item ab

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 14:16 -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > > > One issue that will come up: this is clearly a more commercial > > enterprise than Jarkko's CPAN (and the internet is a different place > > than it was in 1995) You pushed money

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 01:25:33PM -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to > > compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get > > around to developing one of our o

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: > One issue that will come up: this is clearly a more commercial > enterprise than Jarkko's CPAN (and the internet is a different place > than it was in 1995) You pushed money right to the front with this, so > that will lead to certain questio

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Josh Berkus
> I, for one am +1 (although I do note a hint of PGX in PGXN :P). Yeah, we tried to come up with a name which didn't have "PGX" in it, for obvious reasons. However, everything we could come up with (here and on IRC) was very contrived. And "PGXN" does dovetail nicely with "PGXS", which it utili

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Josh Berkus
On 6/15/10 1:12 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to > compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get > around to developing one of our own. It is possible for things to be community and not originate in the Core Team, Bru

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Bruce Momjian writes: > This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to > compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get > around to developing one of our own. The chapter of PGXN as announced here is to build a network of extensions, the ones I'm working on

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:12 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to > compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get > around to developing one of our own. > > I personally had no knowledge of this, which is fine, but don'

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Then you weren't paying attention at the devlopers' meeting. It's the bottom item on cheers andrew Bruce Momjian wrote: This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to compete wit

Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to > compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get > around to developing one of our own. > > I personally had no knowledge of this, which is fine, but don't exp

[HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
This was just posted to announce. Seems the community now has to compete with another extension-based infrastructure if we ever get around to developing one of our own. I personally had no knowledge of this, which is fine, but don't expect me to get excited about it, except to consider it a thre