> That's the only other way to do it, no?
>
You can also take care of the maintenence part both inline (as opposed to a
seperate segment) and at commit time (rather than delay for a vacuum). See
the current HOT patch for a similar implementation to this idea.
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there a
> canonical way to
> solve it? Maybe there's a trivial answer, but I have no plpgsql
> programming
> experience.
>
We I set these up for our clients, I typically seperate the partition creation
piece from the data insertion piece. (Mostly as partition cr
the tablespace to there? Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> If you're not going to be spreading your installation over multiple
> disks (well, mount-points), there's no need to play with tablespaces at
> all.
Well, one could use them as part of a disk quota utilization schem
orks on such an old machine.
>
When you're running these test, make sure to look for where your bottlenecks
are. Going from a Pentium II to an Atholon may sound great, but if your
bottlenecks are all i/o based, it won't give you nearly the jump you might be
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> Would it be possible to partition this by the first_idx value? An
> improvement?
>
It sounds like it should be possible to partition on the first_idx value
(either by range or maybe a modulo type operation). It will certainly be an
improvement over a single billion row
dumping some of our stuff onto our labs
site, you can see some of it here: https://labs.omniti.com/trac/pgsoltools
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s it solves an even smaller
number of issues than originally hoped. my .02 anyway.
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e null for Oracle enterprise 9.2.0.7 and
> 10.2.0.3.
>
Confirmed on Oracle 8.1.7.4.0 as well, so if it changed it was a ways back.
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n primary server down for maintenance and
> >> still have both a production and standby running. I guess I was
> >> really just wanting to make sure I wasn't missing some other big
> >> usage for incremental backups from the standby.
> &g
re (in pg terms)
the oid of a table would be marked so any further DML type information
generated from that table is simply ignored.
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ng the lack of response is due to a lack of knowledge on the topic.
Personally I've never quite understood how you'd make use of the sslinfo
functions to manage connections without something like on commit triggers, so
I hope you'll consider submitting some docume
On Friday 13 July 2007 05:21, Gregory Stark wrote:
> "Robert Treat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm guessing the lack of response is due to a lack of knowledge on the
> > topic. Personally I've never quite understood how you'd make use of the
>
re 75% of your buisness, your solution doesn't scale well).
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either, but seems all the emails I have seen reffered
to it as the "European PostgreSQL Users Group", so I expected it to look more
like other users groups, ie. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> But for now, I was asked to arrange a general mailing list, which I have
>
On Monday 30 July 2007 23:39, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > http://www.commandprompt.com/images/oscon_2007.png
> >
> Left to right: Michael from UGA
> (surely everyone knows what UGA is, right?), Josh Berkus, Jim Nasby,
> Josh Drake, David Fetter, Rob
pen to know an ambituous C hacker, there is a good chance it
could be included in 8.4.
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On Saturday 25 August 2007 01:40, Jaime Casanova wrote:
> On 8/24/07, Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 24 August 2007 17:18, Matthew wrote:
> > > Hey Bill,
> > >
> > > > It does not.
> > >
> > > Bummer.
>
xists, but someone could certainly start one.
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use the built in csv import
> through pg via COPY).
>
> barring that you need to roll some scripts or use a tool. There are
> many ways to do this of varying quality, mostly pretty dubious. In
> the microsoft world you have DTS which has an ok migrator.
>
Perhaps odbclink c
On Friday 21 September 2007 22:43, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On 9/21/07, Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 September 2007 18:38, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> > > On 9/20/07, Collin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Well, the su
On Sunday 23 September 2007 23:43, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 16:05 -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> > On Friday 21 September 2007 22:43, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> > > On 9/21/07, Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 20 Septem
thinking about pl/proxy, which you
interface at the sql level like other procedures, and it does some magic
behind the scenes to farm queries where they are supposed to go. Granted this
doesn't really support acid safe distributed dml, but might be what he was
thinking?
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intensive. Better would probably be to use an external lang, like this:
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION otools.sleep(integer)
RETURNS integer
AS $$
my ($seconds) = @_; return sleep($seconds);
$$ LANGUAGE 'PLPERLU';
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mps for doing
the upgrade. Not that much different than going from 8.1 -> 8.2, which I have
blogged about previously. HTH.
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this stuff, but since PostgreSQL's typical usage has
leaned more toward solving larger/more complex problems, the idea that you
would have a DBA standing behind it generally has been true in far more
cases.
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t; makes both of us say clearly what we want.
> >
> > If people want it they can add the automatic cast back in, it just
> > isn't dfault anymore.
>
Any recommendations on how one might go about generating a list of all of the
removed implicit casts?
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lay mode (for example, during a failover
scenario) the server often has a desire to reread the last file you
processed, and if you dont have it complains.
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> > http://www.wiesinger.com/
> >
> > On Fri, 18 May 2007, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote:
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> Are there any tools available to dump the files of the pg_xlog, pg_clog,
> >> ... directories in human readable format to unde
technology standpoint, Ingres is top notch, but it suffers from the
same problem as most of the database solutions available; it is corporate
owned/controlled rather than community owned/controlled.
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a 1TB Sybase database, its warm-standby
> and regular backups & quarterly maintenance. I am new to PostGres and the
> idea of no tech support phone calls when things break is a scary one! I am
> trying to create a belt-and-suspenders redundant solution so that if
> something br
; "persistent" and hence many of which are idle at the low hours?
>
Nah, initdb is not a tuning device. I'd recommend setting your shared_buffers
to 20% of total RAM for starters. You'll also want to set your
expected_cache_size accordingly. After that, google and benchmarkin
f them show what redirect_stderr was renamed to. It
> says something like "... was renamed to foo. redirect_stderr was renamed
> to bar was renamed to ..."
Yeah, that should get cleaned up.
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on the
system... uncovered in much the same way... go solaris). Actually I was
wondering if it could be done with symlinks, a la moving xlogs. Since we do
custom builds, that's not a real issue, but I was curious.
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On Wednesday 05 December 2007 07:22, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Robert Treat wrote:
> > On Monday 03 December 2007 20:22, Erik Jones wrote:
> > > Interesting. If this is anything you'd like to look into I can
> > > provide whatever diagnostic output you need (ios
ective, partitioning on id ranges v. using the bin
> partitioning method are kind of similar. The biggest differences
> being that with the range setup the majority of the working set of
> data will be in the last couple of month's partitions whereas with
> the bin method it will be
Personally I've not yet landed a customer who needs such a solution,
but hopefully soon)
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>
just to add, make sure your free_space_map settings are set adequately;
otherwise you might not be able to find an adequate schedule.
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out the objective
> superiority of one method over another. I think we should also avoid being
> too doctrinaire about it.
>
Adding something to the FAQ/Subscribe message certainly couldnt hurt.
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>subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your
>message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
You criticize that Joshua's reply was dogmatism but was yours any better?
I think people can see through these weak ad hominem arguments; no
o trim accordingly, you're already at the bottom
of the email, and so bottom posting comes more naturally. *shrug*
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do a select with
where bin_id = mod(2112,3); Where 2112 equals the number your looking for,
and 3 would be the number of buckets.
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posting may well
> cause your messages to be ignored. Those claims are both true, and we
> don't need to justify it with jumped-up claims about the objective
> superiority of one method over another. I think we should also avoid being
> too doctrinaire about it.
>
> A
>
&
ere is the techniques that are available in
Postgres that might help keep the same schema performant. I think looking at
partitioning or at partial indexing (making a new index on the code clause)
could help keep performance with minimal impact to the schema.
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way to determine if there are live transaction
looking at the row, that would require quite a bit of knowledge about what
else is occuring in the system to be able to determine that. That level of
knowledge/complexity is what vacuum takes care of.
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have which would make us more extensible, but the uses for those tools that
can't be covered with the tools available in postgres is pretty narrow.
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> > causes the OOM killer to almost always kill PostgreSQL first,
> > regardless of whether it was truly the offending process or not.
>
> If that isn't an argument for FreeBSD I don't know what is...
>
Funn
a more current version as soon as possible, or
to seek support from a commercial support vendor who is willing to continue
backpatching for them."
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started to pay off. I'd guess that if
they wanted to, they could switch to PDO with Drupal 7 and not hurt
themselves too much.
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business
factors. My guess is that in your case, you'd want a mix of replicating data
from the current Oracle database and your application, as best possible.
Figuring out how you go about replicating the data is certainly easier if
you've have been through it before, but I don't thin
second co-lo for now. But, pretty soon we're
> going to be surpassing the available limits in portably drive
> capacity unless we invest in tape drives.
>
Are you guys running ZFS yet? If so it's snapshot / cloning capabilities might
be the way to go.
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Howdy folks,
We're looking for some PostgreSQL users / advocates in the New Orleans area
for some community outreach activities, like PGDays and User Groups. If you
are in that area and interested in helping, or know who to talk to, please
drop me a line, thanks!
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be
somewhat workload dependent. It's mostly irrelevant though to "internet
oriented" companies, very few are looking for 32+ core systems as a solution
to their problems.
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ill output
numbers on table/index bloat. It's not entirely accurate (patches welcome),
but usually good enough to highlight the problems. See
http://labs.omniti.com/labs/pgtreats/log/trunk/tools/pg_bloat_report.pl
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is_cadex_released LIMIT 5 OFFSET 0
>
Looks to me like the problem is you are trying to ORDER BY columns in
"ca_customs_entry", but there is no such table for that (don't confuse it
with "ca_customs_entries"). You need to either set a matching alias, or fix
the table name qualifier in those order by columns.
Robert Treat
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someone is looking to fund/help development of such a
thing, it might be worth pointing people to Postgres-XC
(http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Postgres-XC). It's got a ways to go,
but they are at least trying.
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The issue is more
just that the built in replication system isn't very mature yet. It's
being worked on, and switchover is something on the list, but it's not
an option yet.
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x27;s the latter, you'll
probably need to write your own tools; at least we've always done that
as we've never found anything that worked with both Oracle and MSSQL
into Postgres reliably; but really it shouldn't be too difficult;
basically just ETL or some home brew repli
gsql was port to use the core lexer. Ideally
you'll have some kind of test suite / regression you can run to verify
all of this; if not you maybe you can set up some replication between
old/new servers (we use mimeo for that when sever versions are this
far apart) and point your app to both a
d I
> bought a bit of it too, didn't bother subscribing to safari, it just
> ain't a book!) to be used as reference and what not.
>
> In PG, all there is, is the manual, a book by Robert Treat, the Book
> from Joshua, 1 or 2 other books authored by someone I can't rem
gt; >
> > like
> >
> > commit_delay,
> >
> > fsync.
>
> I haven't done any tuning as of yet. I'm running with the default settings
> produced by initdb.
>
Don't even bother trying to tune zfs untill after you've tuned postgres,
t put
> use.perl.org in the top results.
>
hmm, i'd have thought you would have wanted planet.perl.org anyway (though
that doesn't show up either)
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was the idea behind castcompat, which didn't get far out of the gate
before several examples cropped up showing how backwards-compatible casting
would break new 8.3 system expectations.
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Actually I think we should be pointing people to
http://www.postgresql.org/developer/roadmap.
Of course we would still need to add an EOL page... I think one could make a
strong argument for a static url for EOL info now tha
module.)
>
Note another possible solution for mediawiki users is to do a fresh install
using latest svn, which has native 8.3 fts support for postgres, and then do
an xml dump/import of the wiki contents.
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te for it, and the public doesn't want to commit
> to a database that has only a handfull of books available.
>
Just to clarify, the market needs to expand to get publishers on board, not
authors.
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either a different role, or a different database with the ability to
do "alter database disable on connect triggers". whether this is a direct
alter database, or set at the GUC level, either makes it pretty hard to lock
yourself out completly,
update rule to the parent table itself, rewriting
into a set of insert, delete statements. (or call a function to manage it
which is probably better on a larger number of partitions)
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t E'\\connect ' || datname || E'\nvacuum;' from
> pg_database where datallowconn" | psql
>
> that's not actually complicated (i'm not saying it's nice, as it isn't).
>
I have to think that a better solution for someone whose needs are met by the
abo
sing configure.
> A post installation step is fine but I think it needs to be documented
> as such.
>
There are instructions on how to install them at
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/contrib.html, but your right
they don't seem to be mentioned anywhere in the install s
s ever (yeah, i
> > skipped some special cases).
>
> I was gonna say ! :-)
>
> Add
>
> hermaphrodite
> transgender with female phenotype
> transgender with male phenotype
>
> and you should be set from current medical science's point
> of view ;-)
>
T
its and you'll have soon
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argue that since it is expected that the ratings might change in
some way every few years that an enum type is not a good choice for this, but
I feel like some type of counter-argument is that this is probably longer
than one would expect thier database software to last. :-)
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On Monday 28 April 2008 17:35, Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 20:33 -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> > I think one of the best examples of this is the movie rating system
> > (which I blogged about at
> > http://people.planetpostgresql.org/xzilla/index.php?/archives/3
On Monday 28 April 2008 10:28, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 08:33:28PM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> > enum types custom ordering. It also showcases the idea of data
> > definitions that "should never change", but that do changes every half
> >
On Thursday 01 May 2008 01:30, Greg Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Robert Treat wrote:
> > Whenever anyone posts a problem on 7.3, the first thing people do now
> > days is jump up and down waving thier arms about while exclaiming how
> > quickly they should upgrade. Whi
On Wednesday 30 April 2008 11:00, Craig Ringer wrote:
> Robert Treat wrote:
> > If one were to have built something on postgresql 5 years ago, they would
> > have had to do it on 7.3. Whenever anyone posts a problem on 7.3, the
> > first thing people do now days is jump up
On Thursday 01 May 2008 13:40, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > And again, if you do the math, any install before 2008-11-17 would have
> > been on 7.3, which is less than 5 years.
>
> I'm not sure how you're doing the math, but
; You can't in plpgsql. It doesn't have the equivalent of a walkable
> fields collection. Its possible in some other procedure languages (I've
> seen it done in C).
>
I did it once by setting up the function to accept the tablename and ctid of
the row involved, and then g
gt;
>
There is a caveat here, in that you need to keep around n number of xlogs,
where n is determined based on the last restart point processed on the slave.
If you are deleting all xlogs as they are processed, any shutdown will likely
cause you to have to start the whole thing over again. Not
to find
information specific to your environment). It's an understandably difficult
issue to work around, since ever storage engine you use means that you're
basically learning the intricacies of a separate database, so it doesn't
surprise me that things end up a little schizophren
l problems the spec is trying to keep you from
getting into... but I have to wonder, if we have established f1 by the time
we evaluate the group by, shouldn't we also be able to determine f1 at having
time, and therefore allow alias in having in this instance?
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> missing.
Out of curiosity, what is your vacuum strategy?
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To make changes to your s
eeps creating empty tables and see where
> that goes, but I'd prefer not to do something like this...
>
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xlogs streams are in
16mb bursts. It would make more sense for wal streaming though (but in
that case we'd probably want to measure it more precisely).
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re running fusion-io on some pretty heavily traffic'd
servers, and the performance has been good, and durability there when
needed. It's certainly worth checking out for those investigating
these options.
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ons.
I've always liked doing this with my pager:
[robert@client-168] export PAGER=md5
-=[11:40:25 Thu Sep 01]=---=[ pagila-0.10.1 ]=-
[robert@client-168] psql -hlocalhost -dpagila
psql (9.0.4, server 9.1beta3)
WARNING: psql version 9.0, server version 9.1.
Some psql features m
Can you go into some more detail on how you set up ZFS on these systems?
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On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Andy Colson wrote:
> On 09/13/2011 08:15 PM, Toby Corkindale wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Some months ago, I ran
here
system was UTC and Postgres was GMT, which was mostly a cosmetic
problem, but it surprised us elsewhere too). It makes me wonder if
there was enough thought put into the backwards compatibility angle of
this; either what the default should be, or to make sure people were
aware of the
nce and for all.... sumo suits anyone?
http://www.maineventweb.com/page/page/2916926.htm
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difference between an unqualified DELETE and a TRUNCATE?
>
> lack of triggers and RULEs spring to mind.
>
Just fyi, there is a patch for 8.4 that will add truncate permissions.
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't designed into your
original expectations; but if you have controlled access to the server, it's
likely postgres can work in that scenario. (The other problem spots is server
upgrades, but you can probably go years on a particular version before that
becomes really pr
Hiroshi-san,
Is this something specific to windows? If so, should this be consider a bug?
Robert Treat
On Sunday 03 August 2008 18:01:05 Hiroshi Saito wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Sorry, it was not included in release.
> please see,
> http://winpg.jp/~saito/pg_work/OSSP_win32/
>
> Reg
list and not to me personally).
>
> Is there someone I should mention this to or does he already know?
>
Problems like this should be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would
likely be helpful to include emails with full header information, though the
folks there can tell you what they nee
cific questions beyond that, please post them in the list, and
be sure to include your OS and version information. HTH :-)
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g simple like oracle's dblink, which comes pre-installed, is
simple to set-up, and has a much more straight-forward syntax for use in day
to day query work.
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Robert Treat
Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
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