l
hdparm -I lets you check if write caching is on, hdparm -W lets you toggle
it off. That's for ATA disks; SCSI ones can use sdparm instead, but
usually it's something you can adjust more permanently in the card
configuration or BIOS instead for those.
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How does turning off write caching on the disk stop the problem with LVM?
It doesn't. Linux LVM is awful and broken, I was just suggesting more
details on what you still need to check even when it's not involved.
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eader to modify the sysbench
test to use O_SYNC/O_DIRECT in order to re-test LVM for the situation if
you changed wal_sync_method=open_sync , how to do that is mentioned
briefly at http://sysbench.sourceforge.net/docs/
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he other ameliorating factor here is that in order for this to bite you,
I think you'd need to have another, incorrectly ordered write somewhere
else that could happen before the delayed write. Not sure where that
might be possible in the PostgreSQL WAL implementation yet.
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category of journal mayhem not so much of a problem. But when I read
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on the copy. Once you get the log output on the screen it should narrow
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makes the only UNIX{-ish} OS where the default is a genuine sync
write Solaris.
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But when you consider the speed with which Oracle produces patches vs. the
Postgres folks the winner is clearly the latter.
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On MySQL, the parameters that controls this behavior are described
starting at
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/innodb-parameters.html#sysvar_innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit
For something with lots of disk commits, it's critical that you have both
systems
r faster write performance
though. SAN vendors seem completely incompetant at producing out of the
box tunings that work well for database use (I feel a RAID5 rant brewing).
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that picking an arbitrary choice is going to be more useful in
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On 30 Mar 2009, at 23:26, Tom Lane wrote:
Steve Crawford writes:
I have a query that converts a string to an array with the
string_to_array function. Sometimes the input is an empty string
(not a
null, but a
r individually, but
have to unnest the list for some display purposes.
The cases where it makes more sense to return a singleton array are
going to be parsing things like /etc/password where there are specific
meanings for each element, but when some are optional. I can't think
of any exampl
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Sam Mason wrote:
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> string_to_array('',',')::INT[] => invalid input syntax for integer: ""
Oof. That's a good point.
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list of objects.
The example of string_to_array('',',')::int[] is relevant to this
point. The whole "there's one empty element" only makes sense if
you're thinking in terms of string processing. If it's a list of any
other kind of object it probably do
n any use case where the string was a list
of objects it's almost certainly intended to be an empty list. And
databases are almost always processing lists of things.
I think the only use case where you want it to be a singleton list of
an empty string is when you're doing string parsing su
ted?
What would it look like if it was a zero-length list? You can ask what
would it look like if it was a shopping list of one item called ''.
But I agree both are theoretically consistent, but one is actually
useful in 99% of use cases. The other is only useful in unusual cases.
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bonnie++ on the hardware. That should give you a better idea
what's going on here, and if the badness shows up there it will be much
easier to get someone at IBM to pay attention too.
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not in the dictionnary, neither in the stop words ?
- If yes, how ?
I'm also interested in any information you could give me...
Many thanks !
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foo','bar']),(array['foo','bar','baz']))
as input(input);
input |output
---+---
{}|
{foo} | {foo}
{foo,bar} | {foo,bar}
{foo,bar,baz} | {foo,bar,baz}
(4 rows)
postgres=# select input,
plementation, rather
than dropping into Perl.
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the early development stages is to create a
seperate disk partition for the temporary tables, turn that into a
tablespace, and then use temp_tablespaces to point the temp tables toward
it. The idea is to separate out I/O to the temp tables so that you can
measure it to see how significant it is.
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7;s a disk controller with a write cache involved, that narrows the
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above are not really clear in the tuning guide on the
wiki, I'll do an update to improve those sections when I get a minute.
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ited" in this
situation would help a lot of people out.
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tions here are:
1) Decrease the maximum possible segment backlog so you can never get this
far behind
2) Increase the rate at which random I/O can be flushed to disk by either
a) Improving things with a [better] battery-backed controller disk cache
b) Stripe across more disks
-
und performance to be... inconsistent at best.
Yeah, EBS is not exactly a high-performance or predictable database
storage solution, particularly when you get to where you're calling fsync
a lot--which is exactly what is happening during the period you note your
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e they're
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on ratio estimate, from there you can
make a fairly accurate guess of what the whole dump is going to take up,
presuming your data is fairly evenly distributed such that the first
records that come back are typical of the whole thing.
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is a good place to find PostgreSQL
oriented blogs at.
I've been collecting 8.4 related blog and talk presentations onto a list
at http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Waiting_for_8.4 and encourage others to
expand on that with ones I've missed.
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matrix should also provide you some
ideas for features you might find useful in the newer version.
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ways to play with.
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So that the server is remotely accessible from all of its interfaces, and
then you can do all filtering of who can connect just via pg_hba.conf
instead. See
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/auth-pg-hba-conf.html for more
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appropriate log rotation is needed to give you breakpoints to import at
though.
The other common idiom here to detect changes is to save the output from
"pgdump -s" regularly and look for changes via diff.
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does, as a different type of report.
Accordingly, I just updated with examples of both types, as well as
something to work against pre-8.1 databases.
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You can certainly find situations where sync writes end up working out
better, but they're not common.
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with a note referring to that in the install section above it where this
info used to live.
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just send it to -general rather than cc'ing multiple ones.
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On Wed, 27 May 2009, Kevin Kempter wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions per good ERD tools (Linux based preferred).
There's a giant list that includes lots of ERD tools at
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Community_Guide_to_PostgreSQL_GUI_Tools
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accurate
enough for gross maintenance use when I did a quick check of its results
before, but those were tables without variable widths, TOAST, etc. This
is one of those boring tasks that DBAs really want more
monitoring-friendly visibility into.
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where ...
group by a.id,b.id,c.id
) AS sub
WHERE a.id = a_id
AND b.id = b_id
AND c.id = c_id
But that's pretty silly and not usually necessary.
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obably best off doing this in the client. You can do any
sort of level break logic you need in the client, and even refer to previous
records. The only thing that would make doing it in the client awkward would
be if you were planning to use the results in more query logic such as a join.
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> The following was run -immediately- after a vacuum.
You realize "vacuum" doesn't update the statistics, right?
You have to do "analyze" or "vacuum analyze" for that.
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an index on the first column.
There was some discussion on changing this but there wasn't consensus on which
direction to head with it. It may come up again for 8.1 if someone wants to
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Get a better computer to run it on in teh long-term -- that will be your
best investment
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> On a 128MB RAM, 450 MHz pentium 3 server with linux gentoo and postgresql
> 7.4.6 on an office lan we can manage satisfactorily a db c
-Method better then the first Method on
> the existing tables!?
A view doesn't change performance at all. It's exactly the same as writing the
query in the view directly into your query.
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>
> I've just inherited a PostgreSQL database, for which I do not have any
> details of, like database name or the users.
> This used to be a library database which was managed via a web page
> written
> in php.
> Its runni
That particular error message is typically associated with a missing
pg_hba.conf entry that tells the postgreSQL server which remote machines to
allow connections FROM
# If you want to allow non-local connections, you need to add more
# "host" records. Also, remember TCP/IP connections are
In practice it works well enough though.
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I use a modified form of option 3 with an ON UPDATE RULE the update rule
copies the row to an inherited table...
CREATE TABLE dm_user (
id SERIAL NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,
lu_user_type INTEGER NOT NULL REFERENCES lu_user_type(id),
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To: Greg Patnude
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] preserving data after updates
> I use a modified form of option 3 with an ON UPDATE RULE the update
r
ized table". But even that's not on the horizon right
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y sort
those again.
You could maybe make it faster by having an index on
and doing order by "session_id desc, sequence_num desc". And giving this
session a larger than normal sort_mem would give it a better chance of being
able to use hash_agg for the count.
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procedures when it would be possible to do these things instantaneously. That
only becomes more important as the investment they want to leverage becomes
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they have to pull off 10GB of data because their system
is 10x faster at doing this unnecessary work than mine would be, so it only
takes 100x as much time?
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I have a strong feeling what really _ought_ to happen here is that
the inherited tables support in postgres, which never really worked anyways,
should be deprecated and eventually removed. All that infrastructure should be
repurposed into partitioned tables. That seems like it would
racle
and DB2 DBAs. The only choice is whether they're doing it by kludging a
failure-prone and suboptimal system or whether it's built into the database in
a reliable, convenient, and well designed form.
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TICE: the number of page slots needed (704) exceeds max_fsm_pages
> (2)
> HINT: Consider increasing the configuration parameter
> "max_fsm_relations"
> to a value over 704.
> VACUUM
Those statements seem a tad strange with those numbers...
er you should realize that sequences can skip numbers. If you really need
them to be sequential then you'll have to lock the table in your trigger and
"select max(id)" for your category. This will be much much slower.
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the right solution for
you. Perhaps something simpler like libdb or memcached would be more
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gt; No, unless SSL compresses automatically.
Without checking the source, I'll bet it does.
Any good encryption system should compress first.
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tions as soon as I
try to delete a referenced column even after "set constraints all deferred".
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Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is it enough to just do
> > update pg_constraint set condeferrable = 't' where contype = 'f';
>
> I think you'd need to start a fresh backend sessio
nt timeout set to 30m. That seems
to be a bogus setting that's just hiding some of the i/o by postponing it
until after the test ends.
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UNIQUE constraint and another
transaction has an insert or update pending for the same key. If the other
transaction commits you get a unique constraint violation, if it aborts your
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I use a modified form of option 3 with an ON UPDATE RULE the update rule
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"Florian G. Pflug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Greg Stark wrote:
> > I want all my foreign key constraints to be deferrable. They were all
> > created
> > with the default (not deferrable).
> > Is it enough to just do update pg_constraint set
Michael Fuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 12:13:33PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote:
> >
> > Consider this a plea for an ALTER TABLE ALTER CONSTRAINT command :)
>
> Shouldn't ALTER TABLE DROP CONSTRAINT followed by ALTER TABLE ADD
> CONSTRA
he correct free() is always called. Ie, as
long as perl doesn't hand any data structures to postgres expecting postgres
to free it or vice versa.
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eed to do this just to work
properly.
Two mallocs can work fine alongside each other. They each call mmap or sbrk to
allocate new pages and they each manage the pages they've received. They won't
have any idea why the allocator seems to be skipping pages, but they should be
carefu
your patch any worse than the current
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Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 05:41:04PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote:
> >
> > Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Is that true even if I'm updating/deleting 1,000 tuples that all reference
> > t
, this would be very similar to how Oracle handles such
locks. In that case there's a fixed amount of space per page reserved in
advance for storing locks.
Actually I think it's a bit more complicated. But that's the idea.
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Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> I looked at Paul's first message and thought "nah, that won't work
> >> because ... because ... hmm ... hmmm ..
t work and will likely crash the backend.
Out of curiosity, would it work if the table were completely empty at the
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this is just a one-time query just do
set enable_hashagg = off
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. Easy to do in C, C++, Perl, and Python (and, I assume Java), but
I can't find anything in the documentation or on Google. Is it possible
in plpgsql?
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ry much that it will do
anything useful.
It sounds like Access wants to be able to update records by looking them up by
primary key. In that case assigning a new value in your view will make
Postgres make up a brand new number that is utterly useless for finding the
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in your view. The problem is that every time you query it it will provide
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hed by the decrease in i/o
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.
It would be pretty useful. In fact if it isn't how hash indexes are
implemented then it might be useful to provide a user visible hash(ROW)
function that allows creating such indexes as functional indexes. Though
hiding it would make the SQL simpler.
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Consider for example a query involving two or more hash indexes and the new
bitmap indexscan plan. You don't want to fetch the tuples if you can eliminate
them using one of the other indexes.
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but beware of using a single query to tune such
parameters. And beware tuning them on non-production conditions. When the data
grows and less of it fits in RAM you may have to raise it again.
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much larger than 25 (think of monthly compounded
25 year mortgages, or worse, daily compounded savings accounts). But in those
cases the base will be very close to 1.
There's really no use case for NUMERIC^NUMERIC except in the case of an
integral power which is useful for number the
this stuff or do I need to dive into the source?
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I suspect something stranger going on. Perhaps /bin/sh on this machine is bash
and this user has some environment variable set that enables this non-standard
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quires starting from
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table
where parent_id = child_table.parent_id
)
Which won't use anything as efficient as a hash join or merge join but will be
at least capable of using index lookups for something basically equivalent to
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The followups are fascinating too. The next three messages immediately begin
discussing how to get back this feature at least as an option.
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"Greg Sabino Mullane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I maintain that it makes more sense for those few people who regularly look
> at system functions to add a "S" than to have everyone else have to do
> things such as "\df public."
@@aol(me too).
ble yet and future changes might
break my code. But I think it'll be workable.
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ware of is a) it uses plain DES
which is just a 56 bit key and crackable by brute force and b) cross-domain
authentication is broken.
But if you just have a single domain it's a lot simpler to set up than the
poster child for second system effect, Kerberos 5.
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