Re: Cya dudes

2000-10-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:01 PM 10/1/00 +0200, Jean-Louis Leroy wrote: >Personally I'm very concerned about the 'every RFC should have an >implementation section' near-requirement. This, I'll agree, is going over the top. It's a good requirement, since it means people *must* think hard about how a feature will be b

RE: Cya dudes

2000-10-01 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:56 AM 10/1/00 -0500, David Grove wrote: >Part of Perl's problems, a severe internal problem that has external (user >side) consequences, is that Perl does *not* have anyone to speak policy with, Yes, it does, as much as any piece of software can. For language issues there's Larry. For inte

RE: Cya dudes

2000-10-01 Thread David Grove
I am in the process of drafting a proposal, and have at a minimum split the thread. However, thank you for pointing out which list this should go in. I'll redirect further messages there. On Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:56 AM, Nathan Torkington [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > It's valid to wa

Re: Cya dudes

2000-10-01 Thread Nathan Torkington
It's valid to want to change the cultural makeup of perl6, but the -language list is not the place for it. Try perl6-meta, and please make concrete proposals. I see this "p5p sucks, we need something better" as pointless unless there are definite ideas of what would be better. Nat

Re: Cya dudes

2000-10-01 Thread Jean-Louis Leroy
> The Perl-KGB-elite has got to go, and a free republic must replace > it. I wouldn't go as far as your entire post, neither in form nor content, but I do have concerns about the sociopsycho(patho)logy of the Perl community. Personally I'm very concerned about the 'every RFC should have an imple

RE: Cya dudes

2000-10-01 Thread David Grove
I'm afraid I had a family crisis yesterday, else another RFC would have been submitted. Part of Perl's problems, a severe internal problem that has external (user side) consequences, is that Perl does *not* have anyone to speak policy with, while the community itself is submerged in issues of

Re: Cya dudes

2000-09-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Ed Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I tried to contribute on this list but it seems we've coalesced downto Tom > > and a handful of others. No one else has a voice. > > Hmm... not my experience. But then I've only seen your message here > bec

Re: Cya dudes

2000-09-29 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 09:39:20AM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 02:34:55AM +, Ed Mills wrote: > > I tried to contribute on this list bu [You know, I think something went wrong there. Let's try again.] The RFC process gets you a hotline to Larry on an equal footing wit

Re: Cya dudes

2000-09-29 Thread Piers Cawley
"Ed Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried to contribute on this list but it seems we've coalesced downto Tom > and a handful of others. No one else has a voice. Hmm... not my experience. But then I've only seen your message here because of Simon's response to it, my spamfilter sees your

Re: Cya dudes

2000-09-29 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 02:34:55AM +, Ed Mills wrote: > I tried to contribute on this list bu -- "He was a modest, good-humored boy. It was Oxford that made him insufferable."

Cya dudes

2000-09-28 Thread Ed Mills
I tried to contribute on this list but it seems we've coalesced downto Tom and a handful of others. No one else has a voice. I have nothing but respect for Tom, Nathan, et al, but its no longer my idea of a community - more like a faction. I'm getting more into PHP now and less into Perl, onl