At 11:01 PM 10/1/00 +0200, Jean-Louis Leroy wrote:
>Personally I'm very concerned about the 'every RFC should have an
>implementation section' near-requirement.

This, I'll agree, is going over the top. It's a good requirement, since it 
means people *must* think hard about how a feature will be built, and will 
tend to keep the more bizarre things from getting out. Unfortunately it 
does stop people that aren't thinking at an internals level, and that's bad.

On the whole I think I'd rather that this requirement not been put in place.

>  Or the 'if you're not coding
>the internals your input is most likely bullshit' stance of some of
>our self-appointed 'leaders'.

I've been out of the -language loop for a while, but I can't really picture 
any of the folks with any sort of responsibility saying this (do please 
correct me if I'm wrong), and anyone else should be granted the respect 
appropriate for any "self-appointed leader", which is to say as much as any 
other member of the community.

It's possible you're speaking of one or more of the working group chairs, 
in which case your criticism may well be valid. This, though, is one of the 
cases where you may need to cope (as a volunteer project one needs to work 
with what's available). You can also speak to folks a step or two up the 
ladder, such as it is--Kirrily's a sane and sensible person to deal with 
for any of the -language sub-groups, and if she's not, then Nat *certainly* 
is. And complaints about me can always go to him too.

Honestly it looks like a good part of the problem we're having is that 
people are treating things that aren't particularly important to be far 
more important than they really are.


                                        Dan

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