All,
I believe that there is some room for adding several new convenience
operators or functions to Perl 6 that are used with Mapping and Hash
values.
Or getting more to the point, I believe that the need for the
relational data model concept of a tuple (a "tuple" where elements
are address
On 2/24/07, Jonathan Lang wrote:
In effect, using * as an array of indices gives us the ordinals
notation that has been requested on occasion: '*[0]' means 'first
element', '*[1]' means 'second element', '*[-1]' means 'last
element',
'*[0..2]' means 'first three elements', and so on - and this
Author: allison
Date: Tue Feb 27 04:00:21 2007
New Revision: 17200
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd01_overview.pod
Log:
[pdd]: Update overview PDD to reflect current (and planned)
architecture.
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd01_overview.pod
Darren Duncan writes:
> I believe that there is some room for adding several new convenience
> operators or functions to Perl 6 that are used with Mapping and Hash
> values.
> I also want to emphasize that I see this functionality being generally
> useful, and that it shouldn't just be shunted off
I'd like to request that num16 and therefore complex16 be added to S09,
and made optional just as num128 and complex128 are. The half-sized
floating point type is commonly used in computer graphics and widely
supported by GPUs and High Dynamic Range image formats such as OpenEXR.
-'f
I've just checked in an updated version of
docs/pdds/draft/pdd01_overview.pod for review. A few questions/comments:
- The standard parser, bytecode compiler, optimizer, interpreter
breakdown has appeared in every overview of Parrot since the dawn of
time, but it's awfully vague. I'm redoing th
How are the bitwise shifts defined on low level types? In particular,
for right shift, does high bit extension or zero fill occur? Does the
answer depend on whether the low level type is signed or not?
On the flip side, it seems more useful if we have both operators
available for either signed o
Does Perl 6 have (bit/string) rotation ops? Especially bit rotation on
low-level integer types would be Nifty for making some numeric
algorithms cleaner, more self documenting, and potentially faster than
forcing the use of a combination of other bitwise ops to do the same
thing.
-'f
What happens when a low-level type overflows or underflows? For
example, if you decrement an int1 twice, what happens?
If you increment a uint8 past 255, do you get:
1. A uint8 with value 0?
2. A uint16 with value 256?
3. A failure?
What about incrementing an int8 past 127? Do you get:
1. An
What happens when you cast between low-level types? If the source value
is out of range of the destination type, do you get:
1. An exception?
2. Clip to finite range always?
3. Clip to finite range for ints, clip to infinities for nums?
4. Exception when dest is int, clip to infinities when dest
How do you specify that you want to byte-stringify a compact struct,
rather than "normal" stringify it?
Does the byte-stringified version include internal and/or trailing
alignment padding? How do you specify the other choices?
Whether or not trailing padding is included when byte-stringifying a
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 12:18:20AM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
> 4. rename():
>
> function rename of Mapping (Mapping $m, Str $old_k, Str $new_k) {
> ... }
>
> This operator takes one Mapping argument and derives another
rename is a Perl 5 builtin. I didn't think that it ha
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 09:20 -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
> How is casting and coersion handled with expressions involving mixed low
> and high level types?
>
> For example, what is the output of this?
>
> my Int $ten = 10;
> my int4 $a = 0;
> my int4 $b;
>
> $b = ($a + 2.4
How is casting and coersion handled with expressions involving mixed low
and high level types?
For example, what is the output of this?
my Int $ten = 10;
my int4 $a = 0;
my int4 $b;
$b = ($a + 2.4 * $ten) / 4;
say $b;
The answers to the above questions may alter my view o
Darren Duncan writes:
> I believe that ... some common relational operations would be a lot
> easier to express if Perl 6 had a few more operators that make them
> concise.
I am prepared to believe that. But what I'm unclear on is when I'd want
to perform a common relational operation.
Please c
Geoffrey Broadwell writes:
> How are the bitwise shifts defined on low level types? In particular,
> for right shift, does high bit extension or zero fill occur? Does the
> answer depend on whether the low level type is signed or not?
>
> On the flip side, it seems more useful if we have both o
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:31:31PM +, Smylers wrote:
> Geoffrey Broadwell writes:
>
> > How are the bitwise shifts defined on low level types? In particular,
> > for right shift, does high bit extension or zero fill occur? Does the
> > answer depend on whether the low level type is signed or
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:31:31PM +, Smylers wrote:
> Geoffrey Broadwell writes:
>
> > Perhaps having both +> and ?> operators? Since "coerce to boolean and
> > then right shift" is meaningless, ...
>
> It's useless, rather than meaningless; you've neatly defined what the
> meaning of that
At 16:39 25/02/2007 +0100, Klaas-Jan Stol wrote:
hi,
most languages that can run in interactive mode have some kind of welcome
message and prompt that is printed before the user can give any input.
For example, Python prints:
Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (
Author: allison
Date: Tue Feb 27 12:03:56 2007
New Revision: 17205
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd01_overview.pod
Log:
[pdd]: Clarify small platform and bytecode translation goals (not for
1.0 release), and remove some "dead end space alien platforms" from
target list. jesse++
Modified:
Klaas-Jan Stol wrote:
hi,
attached a patch updating DEPRECATED.pod.
it adds the deprecated ops from http://www.parrotcode.org/docs/ops/var.html
Thanks, applied in r17206.
Allison
Alek Storm wrote:
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This patch adds the add_attr, rem_attr, and rem_attr_str vtable
meth
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it seems over time there have been a few handrolled implementations of
namespace import mac
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This patch changes the , , and syntax in opcodes to , , and , resp
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if pbcs need to be regenerated due to incompatibilities that have been
introduced, make sho
Author: allison
Date: Tue Feb 27 13:45:44 2007
New Revision: 17208
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd06_pasm.pod
Log:
[pdd]: Minor text changes to PASM PDD.
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd06_pasm.pod
==
--- trun
Author: allison
Date: Tue Feb 27 13:48:38 2007
New Revision: 17209
Modified:
trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd16_native_call.pod
Log:
[pdd]: Some cleanups and a callback example for NCI PDD. Klaas-Jan
Stol++
Modified: trunk/docs/pdds/draft/pdd16_native_call.pod
==
Klaas-Jan Stol wrote:
Looks good. I'd like to change the $P0 and $P1 to use actual variable
names (it's clearer for examples), but I can do that before I apply it
tomorrow.
yes, good point. I was trying to save lines, but clarity is better.
Anyone can, really. I'm happy to apply it thou
Fixed in r17210.
Aldo Calpini wrote:
Allison Randal ha scritto:
We do. Unfortunately we can't rely on Perl 5 for the configure system.
It may seem like an easy way to gain cross-compilation in the short
term, but in the long term it will hurt us.
Miniparrot is the right way to go. It certainly needs work, tho
David Green wrote:
On 2/24/07, Jonathan Lang wrote:
>In effect, using * as an array of indices gives us the ordinals
>notation that has been requested on occasion: '*[0]' means 'first
>element', '*[1]' means 'second element', '*[-1]' means 'last
>element',
>'*[0..2]' means 'first three elements',
Author: larry
Date: Tue Feb 27 15:41:10 2007
New Revision: 13706
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod
Log:
Some clarifications requested by Geoffrey Broadwell++.
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S09.pod
==
--- doc/tr
At 4:45 PM + 2/27/07, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> 4. rename():
rename is a Perl 5 builtin. I didn't think that it had been dropped for
Perl 6.
At 6:22 PM + 2/27/07, Smylers wrote:
> 1. join() aka natural_join():
Remember that Perl already has a C function, for joining strings.
To b
At 6:15 AM -0800 2/27/07, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
What happens when a low-level type overflows or underflows? For
example, if you decrement an int1 twice, what happens?
If you increment a uint8 past 255, do you get:
1. A uint8 with value 0?
2. A uint16 with value 256?
3. A failure?
What ab
Author: larry
Date: Tue Feb 27 15:56:44 2007
New Revision: 13707
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
Log:
Modifiers on bit shifts.
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
==
--- doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:35:49AM -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 09:20 -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
: > How is casting and coersion handled with expressions involving mixed low
: > and high level types?
: >
: > For example, what is the output of this?
: >
: > my
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:54:50AM -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
: How do you specify that you want to byte-stringify a compact struct,
: rather than "normal" stringify it?
Coerce to a buffer type rather than using ~.
: Does the byte-stringified version include internal and/or trailing
: align
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 06:26:18AM -0800, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
: What happens when you cast between low-level types? If the source value
: is out of range of the destination type, do you get:
:
: 1. An exception?
: 2. Clip to finite range always?
: 3. Clip to finite range for ints, clip to i
Author: larry
Date: Tue Feb 27 17:00:09 2007
New Revision: 13708
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
Log:
Better writing requested by John Macdonald++
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
==
--- doc/trunk/design
Author: larry
Date: Tue Feb 27 17:01:23 2007
New Revision: 13709
Modified:
doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
Log:
gah
Modified: doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod
==
--- doc/trunk/design/syn/S03.pod(original)
+++ doc/tr
On 2/26/07, Geoffrey Broadwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hmmm. Let's see if there is a way I can help to get what I want
Assuming that the answer to my question in the other thread is "packed
arrays aren't implemented anywhere yet", are any implementations close
enough that I can trade te
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