On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 13:11:34 -0400, BÁRTHÁZI András <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi,
I just would like to share it with you. We had a weekend at the lake
Balaton on the last weekend, where I had a talk about Perl 6. The guys
liked it (the girls had sunbath during the event :), and one of them
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
Of course, there are other "implicit" parameters that are given
to a rule -- the target string to be matched and an initial
starting position. But I think some of those details are still
being worked out.
Wasn't it said that rules have the current match object/stat
On 30 May 2005, at 22:23, chromatic wrote:
[snip]
I'd love to have feedback before I release it to the CPAN in a week or
so.
[snip]
Getting some test failures on vanilla OS X 10.4.1 (see below). Not
got time to dig into causes at the moment.
Looks nice though. Like the roles stuff.
Adrian
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 08:45:53PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>> Nick Glencross wrote:
>> >alignbytes=8, prototype=define
>>
>>
>> What does this mean in perl?
> It's the result from this C program run by Configure:
> #include
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This patch should (hopefully) be my last contribution to
strength_reduce() for a while
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Rob Kinyon wrote:
> xOn 5/31/05, Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Rob Kinyon wrote:
>> > I would love to see a document (one per editor) that describes the
>> > Unicode characters in use and how to make them. The Set implementation
>> > in Pugs uses (at last count) 20 different Unicode cha
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Folks,
Can anyone recommend any texts on testing applications and libraries that are
supposed to work with threads? How to force race conditions, that sort of
thing?
N
François" PERRAD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since r8195, PARROT_DEBUG_FLAG is not defined in parrot/interpreter.h
> So, make hello fails when compiling src/exec_start.c
Ah, yep. I've changed it to follow the code of src/embed.c.
Thanks for testing.
> PARROT_DEBUG_FLAG is also referenced in se
Nick Glencross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This trivial patch fixes a cosmetic problem while running Configure on
> HP-UX. Basically the $align variable goes out of scope and is then used,
Thanks, applied - r8250
leo
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 10:57:21PM +0100, Adrian Howard wrote:
> ok 15 - ... having cleared out any existing failures
> # Failed test (t/base.t at line 95)
> # Structures begin differing at:
> # $got->{failures}[0]{diagnostics} = 'Failed test
> (fake_tests/fail.t at line 9)
>
Curtis Rawls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This patch should (hopefully) be my last contribution to
> strength_reduce() for a while : ).
Thanks, applied - r8251
leo
On 2 Jun 2005, at 10:01, Michael G Schwern wrote:
[snip]
Test::More 0.48_02 introduced a change where it would put a leading
newline before its diagnostics when running under Test::Harness.
Looks
like the test expected that. You're probably running Test::More 0.47.
[snip]
Bah. I knew that
Peter Sinnott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When running t/op/trans.t using the jit it fails. When not
> using jit it passes
> I think the problem may be with the macro as
hmm, but N2 prints as 'nan' before the macro is called.
Anyway, could you please try to debug this according to
$ perldoc
This is the exact same behaviour that you get under cygwin on Windows. I
assumed that the extra print was added by someone who had previously
been doing an investigation.
Don't remember doing all this edge case trig stuff in school.
Nick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Building from parrot_2005-06
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 10:48:32PM +0100, Nick Glencross wrote:
> Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>
> >Nick Glencross wrote:
> >
> >>#define PARROT_9000/800 1
> >
> > ^
> >
> >Can you check in config/*/*.pl where that is coming from?
>
> That would be PARROT_${jitcpu}, where jitcpu is
Greetings,
It was brought to my attention that Crypt::DES is included in the
Phalanx 100 list. While I'm flattered, I think this should be replaced
by a better symmetrical crypto module like Crypt::Rijndael.
The reasoning is simple. Crypt::DES is terribly weak and slow by
comparison. The
Bob Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The attached test case segfaults in r8247, apparently in the iseq
> instruction.
Thanks for reporting - fixed in r8253.
leo
On 6/1/05, Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Should {} be an empty hash rather than an empty code?
Given that an empty hashref is probably much more useful than an empty
block, I propose that {} be an empty hash and {;} be an empty block.
This mirrors the fact that (AFAIK) { $_ => 1 } is a
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:22:45AM +0100, Nick Glencross wrote:
> Peter Sinnott wrote:
>
> >bash-2.05$ uname -a
> >
> >HP-UX gnbil2dv B.11.00 A 9000/800 1657309373 two-user license
> >bash-2.05$ /cm/tools/bin/perl -V
> >Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 0) configuration:
> >Pl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Building from parrot_2005-06-01_151500.tar.gz on solaris
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/tmp/tinder/parrot$ uname -a
> SunOS prodigy 5.9 Generic_117171-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4
> # not 0.00ok 17
> # '
> atan N4, -0.0, -0.0
> .fp_eq (N4, -3.141
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:22:28PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Building from parrot_2005-06-01_151500.tar.gz on solaris
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/tmp/tinder/parrot$ uname -a
> > SunOS prodigy 5.9 Generic_117171-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4
>
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:29:36AM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Peter Sinnott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When running t/op/trans.t using the jit it fails. When not
> > using jit it passes
>
> > I think the problem may be with the macro as
>
> hmm, but N2 prints as 'nan' before the macro is
Peter Sinnott wrote:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:22:45AM +0100, Nick Glencross wrote:
Peter Sinnott wrote:
bash-2.05$ uname -a
HP-UX gnbil2dv B.11.00 A 9000/800 1657309373 two-user license
bash-2.05$ /cm/tools/bin/perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 0) confi
Luke Palmer wrote:
Should {} be an empty hash rather than an empty code?
Does it matter? More interesting is the question what it returns
or evaluates to if it's a block. Actually with my idea of List
beeing a subtype of Code the parse time recognition of blocks
as List of Pair has no implicati
On 6/2/05, "TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luke Palmer wrote:
> > Why did we change { %hash } from making a shallow copy of a hash to
> > the code that returns %hash?
>
> Sorry, I don't understand this question. Do you want 'shallow copy'
> to mean 'take a ref'? Or Parrot/Pugs
Hello,
On a nostalgic lark I searched Google for "Perl Python Parrot" and was
astonished (and excited) to discover the Parrot project.
The Parrot FAQ states that Parrot must run on all platforms on which
Perl 5 runs, including classic Mac OS. I've been implementing a
POSIX-like environment
This patch informs win32 users that nmake v1.5 is not capable of building
Parrot.
READM.win32.patch
Description: Binary data
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Building from parrot_2005-06-01_151500.tar.gz on solaris
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/tmp/tinder/parrot$ uname -a
> SunOS prodigy 5.9 Generic_117171-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/tmp/tinder/parrot$ gcc -v
> Reading specs from
On Jun 2, 2005, at 3:48 AM, Dave Paris wrote:
Greetings,
It was brought to my attention that Crypt::DES is included in the
Phalanx 100 list. While I'm flattered, I think this should be
replaced by a better symmetrical crypto module like Crypt::Rijndael.
The reasoning is simple. Crypt::DE
All:
I would like to revisit the following question as there was no
decision reached AFAICT.
http://groups.google.ca/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_thread/thread/766c1b32c57a56f6/3296f0d6cad75548?q=list+context+.chars&rnum=1&hl=en#3296f0d6cad75548
What I would like to be able to do is:
my $str
> So, if we continue following this API, Perl6 core will contain time(),
> but no localtime() nor gmtime(). The Date module will provide human
> readable date and time strings, and basic date math.
localtime() and gmtime() seem fairly core to me. The array contexts are
simple, and the scalar co
Paul Seamons skribis 2005-06-02 9:43 (-0600):
> localtime() and gmtime() seem fairly core to me. The array contexts are
> simple, and the scalar context is an RFC valid string. Nothing too heavy
s/array context/list context/
Juerd
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Kevin Scaldeferri wrote:
My understanding is that inclusion on the Phalanx 100 doesn't constitute
any sort of endorsement of the modules. It's hopefully a statement that
the module is widely used, but not a judgment on whether it ought to be.
They are not endorsed, but they are considered "im
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 06:48:30AM -0400, Dave Paris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> It was brought to my attention that Crypt::DES is included in the
> Phalanx 100 list. While I'm flattered, I think this should be replaced
> by a better symmetrical crypto module like Crypt::Rijndael.
Don't be fla
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 22:57 +0100, Adrian Howard wrote:
> Getting some test failures on vanilla OS X 10.4.1 (see below). Not
> got time to dig into causes at the moment.
I've bumped up the Test-Simple version requirement in Build.PL to fix
this.
> Looks nice though. Like the roles stuff.
Than
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:14:33AM +0200, "TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" wrote:
> Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >Of course, there are other "implicit" parameters that are given
> >to a rule -- the target string to be matched and an initial
> >starting position. But I think some of those details are still
>
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 12:16 +, Nigel Sandever wrote:
> This patch informs win32 users that nmake v1.5 is not capable of building
> Parrot.
Thanks, applied (with grammar tweaks to the previous paragraph).
-- c
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 15:19 -0700, chromatic wrote:
> I've just added a feature to Parrot::Test to allow you to add todo =>
> 'reason' to the end of all test function calls. This will mark the
> tests as TODO in a way that Test::Builder understands.
> If there are no objections in a couple of da
Luke Palmer wrote:
When we heard that Larry didn't acutally want $$foo to infinitely
dereference, some of us were overjoyed, and others severely
disappointed. Both transparent dereferencing (infinite $$foo) and
opaque dereferencing (one-level $$foo) have their uses, but they are
definitely disti
"TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" skribis 2005-06-02 20:36 (+0200):
> Might it be applicable to use .() as the dereferencer
> of scalar variables that derefs to the next none(Ref)
> type and if that is a Code it dispatches to it as expected?
Or perhaps postfix $, to deref recursively.
my $foo = 5;
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 06:57:24PM +0200, David Landgren wrote:
> >My understanding is that inclusion on the Phalanx 100 doesn't constitute
> >any sort of endorsement of the modules. It's hopefully a statement that
> >the module is widely used, but not a judgment on whether it ought to be.
>
>
*4 Y/26
os2
-solaris8-sparc-cc B-Y/37 - - - YY20040928
+solaris8-sparc-cc B -Y/231 -- - YY/14 20050602
tru64-alpha-gcc 8 Y YY
tru64-alpha-dec_c_v6.5 8 Y YY
On 5/19/05, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vladimir Lipsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Parrot_really_destroy needs to be fixed
>
> $verbose++ please, thanks
>
yes, please. until this issue is fixed, i'm rolling back these patches
so the threads test 6 is again skipped on windows
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
Alas, it doesn't seem to be quite that straightforward. Or maybe
it is, and I'm just not seeing it yet. So, I'll just "think out
loud" here for a bit...
I like it if that is happening on the list instead of off-list.
Thanks.
I think the state object ought to have
Juerd wrote:
$y() = 7;
No, sorry, that looks to me as if $y is a reference to an lvalue sub,
not like any form of referencing of scalars.
Well, it is a reference to an lvalue sub if it is just that :)
As unspecificly typed as it stands there it could be anything
that reacts to &postfix:<()>
"TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" skribis 2005-06-02 21:30 (+0200):
> And it nicely lines up with $y[], $y{}, @a[], %h{} etc. as
> dereferential expressions.
Except that () doesn't return a reference to an anonymous scalar of the
list it surrounds.
Juerd
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On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 15:16 -0400, Andy Dougherty wrote:
> Here's the Solaris patch:
Thanks, applied.
-- c
HaloO Juerd,
you wrote:
Except that () doesn't return a reference to an anonymous scalar of the
list it surrounds.
Of course not. The inside of the .() call operator has type
Signature and the dispatch goes to the implementation that has
the closest type distance to the types of the actual arg
"TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" skribis 2005-06-02 22:22 (+0200):
> The only thing that is a bit unclear to me is if the dot is part of the
> operator name---like a sigil---or purely syntactical. A method is e.g.
> also not defined with the dot:
> class Blahh
> {
>method .example ( $non_invocant ) {...}
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:45:45PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
> If we allow "sub .foo", "sub :foo" comes naturally, and another
> asymmetry is gone.
>
> It would also allow "multi sub" and "multi method" to simply become
> "multi".
I _really_ like the explicit 'method' name that methods have. Calling
t
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:19:22PM +0200, "TSa (Thomas Sandlaß)" wrote:
> >I think the state object ought to have some sort of base type --
> >is it Grammar? Rule? If we say it's a "Rule", then we're
> >effectively saying that "applying a Rule to a target results
> >in a Rule object containing
Hi,
Looks good. With a fresh checkout I now get :
Determining whether GNU m4 is
installed.no.
And in the m4 makefile
# some constants
M4_EVAL_COMPILER_SO = ../../runtime/parrot/dynext/m4_eval_compiler.so
default: all
all: build
Certainly easier to go thi
On Monday, June 27, Marc Prewitt and I will be making a presentation at
YAPC::NA::2005 in Toronto entitled "Phalanx from the Trenches: A Local
Perl Users Group's Experience."
While the main focus of our talk will be on our experience with the Perl
Seminar NY Phalanx contingent's work on Text-
I sync'd up with subversion this afternoon, and I'm finding that a
*lot* of things that used to work for me are now breaking really
badly. Specifically where there used to be sane fallbacks for pretty
much all of the MMD functions now we've got nothing and I'm having to
install a lot of crud I
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