Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2006-01-24 though 2006-02-07

2006-02-07 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 10:08:46PM -0500, Matt Fowles wrote: >PGE Binding > Audrey noticed a problem convincing PGE to alias a scalar. Patrick > explained that it was not yet implemented. Oops! I forgot to mention to the list(s) that I've since fixed PGE so that it is able to parse sc

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2006-01-10 though 2006-01-24

2006-01-25 Thread Klaas-Jan Stol
Matt Fowles wrote: LuaNil Morphing Klaas-Jan Stol proffered a patch which changed LuaNil from a singleton and made it morph to other Lua types when asked. Warnock applies. Actually, François Perrad applied this patch, but I think he only sent a reply to me.

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-11-14 through 2005-11-21

2005-11-23 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 23, 2005, at 3:06, chromatic wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 01:39 +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: But my argument was: whenever you start introspecting a call frame, by almost whatever means, this will keep the call frame alive[1] (see Continuation or Closure). That is: timely destruction

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-11-14 through 2005-11-21

2005-11-22 Thread chromatic
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 01:39 +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > But my argument was: whenever you > start introspecting a call frame, by almost whatever means, this will > keep the call frame alive[1] (see Continuation or Closure). That is: > timely destruction doesn't work for example... Destruct

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-11-14 through 2005-11-21

2005-11-22 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Nov 22, 2005, at 1:40, Matt Fowles wrote: Call Frame Access Chip began to pontificate about how one should access call frames. Chip suggested using a PMC, but Leo thought that would be too slow. No, not really. It'll be slower, yes. But my argument was: whenever you start int

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-10-10 through 2005-10-24

2005-10-25 Thread Jonathan Worthington
"Matt Fowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: =head3 Obsolete Win32 Exports Michael Walter found and removed some obsolete Win32 Exports. Jonathan Worthington applied the patch. Weren't we planning on auto generating these? The Plan is to mark functions that are to be exported with something that

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-09-26 through 2005-10-02

2005-10-05 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Oct 5, 2005, at 1:17, Matt Fowles wrote: Here Doc in PIR Will Coleda revived a thread from February about PIR here doc syntax. Looks like the syntax is ok. Jonathan Worthington has already implemented here doc syntax. Data::Escape::String Dislikes Unicode Will noticed

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-08-15 through 2005-08-22

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:43:41PM -0400, Matt Fowles wrote: > >Java on Parrot > Tim Bunce asked some preliminary questions about Java on Parrot. I > provide preliminary answers, and Nattfodd and Autrijus posted links to > related work. The important question of what it should be c

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-08-15 through 2005-08-22

2005-08-23 Thread Sam Phillips
On 23 Aug 2005, at 10:20, Leopold Toetsch wrote: On Aug 23, 2005, at 3:43, Matt Fowles wrote: Java on Parrot I vote for "Jot". That's already occupied by another language http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Iota_and_Jot. as is Java Parrot http://petstockroom.com/get_item_2jj_birdca

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-08-15 through 2005-08-22

2005-08-23 Thread Leopold Toetsch
On Aug 23, 2005, at 3:43, Matt Fowles wrote: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-08-15 through 2005-08-22 Java on Parrot I vote for "Jot". That's already occupied by another language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_and_Jot. Perl 6 Language Type Inferencing in Perl 5 Autrijus

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-08-02 through 2005-08-10

2005-08-10 Thread Autrijus Tang
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:47:54PM -0400, Matt Fowles wrote: > Perl 6 Compilers >Pugs Argument Processing > Vadim Konovalov submitted a patch to pugs affecting @*ARGS processing. > Maybe it got applied, maybe not, Warnock applies. > In Pugs land, "Warnock" of

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-07-19 through 2005-07-26

2005-07-26 Thread Will Coleda
On Jul 26, 2005, at 9:21 PM, Matt Fowles wrote: \u escape issues Will Coleda opened a ticket for some unicode escape issues. Leo asked for a test case. Actually, this was a close of a fairly old ticket that predated the big string merge. Apologies f

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-07-05 through 2005-07-12

2005-07-13 Thread Juerd
Dave Whipp skribis 2005-07-13 8:44 (-0700): > > Within a method or submethod, C<.method> only works when C<$_ =:= > > $?SELF>. > >C<.method> is perfectly legal on *any* topic anywhere that $?SELF > >doesn't exist. > Just to be clear, this includes any method/submethod with an explicitly > named

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-07-05 through 2005-07-12

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Whipp
Damian Conway wrote: Important qualification: Within a method or submethod, C<.method> only works when C<$_ =:= > $?SELF>. C<.method> is perfectly legal on *any* topic anywhere that $?SELF doesn't exist. Just to be clear, this includes any method/submethod with an explicitly named invo

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-07-05 through 2005-07-12

2005-07-12 Thread Damian Conway
Matt Fowles summarized: Method Call on Invocant Now " ./method "is gone, and " .method " only works when " $_ =:= $?SELF ". Important qualification: Within a method or submethod, C<.method> only works when C<$_ =:= $?SELF>. C<.method> is perfectly lega

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-06-21 through 2005-06-28

2005-06-29 Thread Matt Fowles
Patrick~ On 6/29/05, Patrick R. Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:11:24PM -0400, Matt Fowles wrote: > >Parrot Loses with Fedora Core 4 > > Patrick reported that Fedora Core 4 and Parrot don't get along well. Leo > > suggested a possible solution. No respon

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-06-21 through 2005-06-28

2005-06-29 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:11:24PM -0400, Matt Fowles wrote: >Parrot Loses with Fedora Core 4 > Patrick reported that Fedora Core 4 and Parrot don't get along well. Leo > suggested a possible solution. No response from Patrick. An update: Patrick submitted a patch based on Leo's sug

Re: Perl 6 Summary... p6rules

2005-06-01 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 01:07:50PM -0400, Dino Morelli wrote: > > Problem: in 35971 there were two .patch files. Looks like > subrules_t.patch for the new t/p6rules/subrules.t didn't get in there. Woops, I forgot to do the "svn add". (Yes, I know, I need to make better use of manicheck.pl. I'll

Re: Perl 6 Summary... p6rules

2005-06-01 Thread Dino Morelli
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: >On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:58:12PM -0400, Dino Morelli wrote: >> >> This and my other two patches to p6rules tests (RT #35950, 35971, 35994) >> have not yet been applied. > >Applied, "thanks" x 3. > Thank you! Problem: in 35971 there were two .patch

Re: Perl 6 Summary... p6rules

2005-06-01 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:58:12PM -0400, Dino Morelli wrote: > > This and my other two patches to p6rules tests (RT #35950, 35971, 35994) > have not yet been applied. Applied, "thanks" x 3. Pm

Re: Perl 6 Summary... p6rules

2005-06-01 Thread Dino Morelli
On Tue, 31 May 2005, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: >On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:58:12PM -0400, Dino Morelli wrote: >> >> This and my other two patches to p6rules tests (RT #35950, 35971, 35994) >> have not yet been applied. > >My apologies for taking so long to apply these patches; I've been >out of to

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-05-24 through 2005-05-31

2005-06-01 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles wrote: Parrot thr_windows.h with MinGW François Perrad provided a patch fixing two compilation problems in thr_windows.h. Warnock applies. Actually the patch is applied. Thanks for your summary. leo

Re: Perl 6 Summary... p6rules

2005-05-31 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:58:12PM -0400, Dino Morelli wrote: > Thank you for the summary, Matt > > I have a correction, though: > > > subrules tests > >Dino Morelli provided a patch adding tests for subrules to PGE. Warnock > >applies. > > > > > > This and my o

Re: Perl 6 Summary... p6rules

2005-05-31 Thread Dino Morelli
Thank you for the summary, Matt I have a correction, though: > subrules tests >Dino Morelli provided a patch adding tests for subrules to PGE. Warnock >applies. > > This and my other two patches to p6rules tests (RT #35950, 35971, 35994) have not yet been applie

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-04-26 through 2005-05-03

2005-05-04 Thread Bernhard Schmalhofer
Matt Fowles schrieb: imc http server Markus Amslser wanted to write a tiny webserver in imc. This led to the discovery of that the binary to ascii transcoding is absent. Leo suggested several possible solutions. Actually Markus Amsler did write a working tiny w

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-04-26 through 2005-05-03

2005-05-04 Thread Michele Dondi
On Tue, 3 May 2005, Matt Fowles wrote: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-04-26 through 2005-05-03 ^^ ^^ Wow! Michele -- Why should I read the fucking manual? I know how to fuck! In fact the problem is that the fucking manual only gives you theoretica

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-04-12 through 2005-04-19

2005-04-19 Thread Michele Dondi
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Matt Fowles wrote: Python on Parrot ^^ Kevin Tew wondered what the state of pyrate was. Sam Ruby provided a general explanation. (I'm not on all of the lists, so this may have come out before and I j

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-03-22 through 2005-04-05

2005-04-06 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >PMC constants > Leo added support for .const things to imc. Unfortunately, the GC eats > them so you can't use it. I forgot to mention that PMC constants are properly marked now. So they are usuable for all PMC types that provide an appropriate

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-03-07 through 2005-03-22

2005-03-23 Thread Miroslav Silovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pugs too lazy Miroslav Silovic noticed that closing a file handle in pugs did not force all the thunks associated with the file. While this was a bug in pugs, it led to conversation about whether = should be lazy or eager. Larry thinks that it will be safer to

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-02-22 though 2005-03-07

2005-03-08 Thread Autrijus Tang
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:43:23PM -0500, Matt Fowles wrote: > Off list development > In more related news, It has been pointed out to me that development > goes on off list on places like IRC. I briefly contemplated, quitting my > job and tracking such things full time, but then I de

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-02-22 though 2005-03-07

2005-03-08 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perl 6 Summary for 2005-02-22 though 2005-03-07 >Strings support [ ... ] > String content in assemblers now require a charset prefix. Not quite. The charset prefix is of course optional. W/o prefix the string is assumed having "iso-8859-1" charse

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread Larry Wall
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 12:32:21PM +0100, Miroslav Silovic wrote: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : >>i think so but i can't read larry's mind (nor would i want to! :) : >> : >>XP = extreme programming : >>DBC = design by contract (or even designed by conway :) : >>MP = ?? : > : > : >Modu

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread Michele Dondi
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Miroslav Silovic wrote: Modular Programming David I think it's Metaprogramming. :) The only thing that sprung to my mind was "MetaPost"... Michele -- No one can ever predict all of the possible error conditions, of course; as soon as we write idiot-proof code, along comes a bet

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread Miroslav Silovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think so but i can't read larry's mind (nor would i want to! :) XP = extreme programming DBC = design by contract (or even designed by conway :) MP = ?? Modular Programming David I think it's Metaprogramming. :) Miro

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread David Landgren
Uri Guttman wrote: [...] i think so but i can't read larry's mind (nor would i want to! :) XP = extreme programming DBC = design by contract (or even designed by conway :) MP = ?? Modular Programming David

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread Markus Laire
John Macdonald wrote: The basic problem is that a junction does not work well with boolean operations, because the answer is usually "sometimes yes and sometimes no" and until you resolve which of those is the one you want, you have to proceed with both conditions. Well, just patch the boolean oper

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread Uri Guttman
> "MD" == Michele Dondi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MD> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Larry Wall wrote: >> roadblocks thrown in their way. That's true not only for LP, but >> also for FP, MP, XP, AOP, DBC, and hopefully several other varieties MD> ^^ ^^^ MD> ^

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-10 Thread Michele Dondi
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Larry Wall wrote: roadblocks thrown in their way. That's true not only for LP, but also for FP, MP, XP, AOP, DBC, and hopefully several other varieties ^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^ 1. 2. Ehmmm... sorry for the ignorance, but... 1. Fu

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-09 Thread John Macdonald
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 11:57:17AM -0800, Ovid wrote: > --- Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Logic Programming in Perl 6 > > Ovid asked what logic programming in perl 6 would look like. No > > answer > > yet, but I suppose I can pick the low hanging fruit: as a > > limiting

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-09 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 11:57:17AM -0800, Ovid wrote: : --- Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : : >Logic Programming in Perl 6 : > Ovid asked what logic programming in perl 6 would look like. No : > answer : > yet, but I suppose I can pick the low hanging fruit: as a : > limiting

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-09 Thread Ovid
--- Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Logic Programming in Perl 6 > Ovid asked what logic programming in perl 6 would look like. No > answer > yet, but I suppose I can pick the low hanging fruit: as a > limiting case > you could always back out the entire perl 6 grammar and i

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-09 Thread Matthew Walton
Michele Dondi wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Matt Fowles wrote: pipe dreams Juerd wondered if he could mix = and ==> in a sane way. The answer appears to be no. Once you bring in ==> you should stick with it. Huh?!? It doesn't seem to me that the answer is 'no'. In fact C<< ==> >> is supposed

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2005-01-31 through 2004-02-8

2005-02-09 Thread Michele Dondi
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Matt Fowles wrote: pipe dreams Juerd wondered if he could mix = and ==> in a sane way. The answer appears to be no. Once you bring in ==> you should stick with it. Huh?!? It doesn't seem to me that the answer is 'no'. In fact C<< ==> >> is supposed to be yet another ope

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03

2005-01-09 Thread Adam Kennedy
Matt Fowles wrote: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03 All~ Welcome to a New Year of Perl 6 Summaries. I have been doing bi-weekly summaries over the holiday season, but I plan on returning to weekly ones now. Hopefully "World of Warcraft" won't prevent me, we shall see

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03

2005-01-04 Thread Matt Fowles
Austin~ On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:20:25 -0500, Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Fowles wrote: > > >Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03 > > > > > > > > s/conses/consensus/g ? Indeed. Let this be a lesson to anyone who would claim that just running spell check is enoug

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03

2005-01-04 Thread Ovid
--- Jon Ericson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > s/conses/consensus/g ? > > I assumed it was a Lisp reference. ;-) contheth? (No, I'm not really *quite* that clueless.) Cheers, Ovid = Silence is Evil http://users.easystreet.com/ov

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03

2005-01-04 Thread Jon Ericson
Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > s/conses/consensus/g ? I assumed it was a Lisp reference. ;-) Jon

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03

2005-01-04 Thread Austin Hastings
Matt Fowles wrote: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-12-20 through 2005-01-03 s/conses/consensus/g ?

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-29 through 2004-12-06

2004-12-07 Thread David Wheeler
On Dec 6, 2004, at 6:27 PM, Matt Fowles wrote: getters and setters John Siracusa wanted to know if Perl 6 would allow one to expose a member variable to the outside world, but then later intercept assignments to it without actually having to switch to using getters and setters i

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-29 through 2004-12-06

2004-12-07 Thread chromatic
On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 18:07 +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: > > From: James deBoer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:50:36 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [perl #32769] [PATCH] Standardizes and improves the > > formatting of internal_exception() calls > > Is missing

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-29 through 2004-12-06

2004-12-07 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Leo~ > Yup. > From: James deBoer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:50:36 -0500 > Subject: Re: [perl #32769] [PATCH] Standardizes and improves the > formatting of internal_exception() calls Is missing here. I'd appreci

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-29 through 2004-12-06

2004-12-07 Thread Matt Fowles
Leo~ Yup. From: James deBoer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:50:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [perl #32769] [PATCH] Standardizes and improves the formatting of internal_exception() calls Matt On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:23:34 +0100, Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-29 through 2004-12-06

2004-12-07 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >internal exception clean up > James deBoer submitted a patch that cleans up internal exception output. > Then later he submitted a second better version of the patch. Warnock > applies. From: James deBoer Date: 03.12.2004 ... "I will

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-29 through 2004-12-06

2004-12-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Matt Fowles wrote: keyword arguments Sam Ruby wondered how he out to handle keyword arguments to functions. Dan admitted that this is complex and outlined the cheat he has been contemplating. No one has either commented on or implemented it yet. Oh, yes, I di

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-22 through 2004-11-29

2004-11-30 Thread Juerd
Matt Fowles skribis 2004-11-29 22:22 (-0500): > Juerd suggested scrapping qx and qw in favor of qq:x and qq:w, which > Larry liked. Credit for this shouldn't be mine, but Larry's, as it's his invention: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Juerd

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-22 through 2004-11-29

2004-11-29 Thread Rosser Schwarz
while you weren't looking, Matt Fowles wrote: >Lexicals, Continuations, Register Allocation, and ascii art > This thread (and the ones that preceded it) have made me wish that gmail > and google groups had a fixed width font option. Sadly, this summary > will probably not get me it

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15

2004-11-18 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:06 AM -0800 11/18/04, Michel Pelletier wrote: > From: Jeff Horwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Perl 6 Internals List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15

2004-11-18 Thread Michel Pelletier
> From: Jeff Horwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Perl 6 Internals List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15 > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Conte

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15

2004-11-17 Thread Jeff Horwitz
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Matt Fowles wrote: > Languages with Object Support? >Jeff Horwitz wondered if there were any languages with object support >that he could bend to the evil ends of mod_parrot. While no one >answered, I think Parakeet might be such a language... parakeet's a newcom

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15

2004-11-16 Thread Bernhard Schmalhofer
Matt Fowles wrote: string pinning Bernhard Schmalhofer wanted to pass the same C-string into to different external functions so that the first could do things to it that the second required. However, the solution that he found kept eating his string after the first invocation. Da

RE: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15

2004-11-15 Thread Joe Gottman
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Fowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Perl 6 Internals List; perl6- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-08 through 2004-11-15 > > Perl 6 Summary for 2

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-11-01 through 2004-11-08

2004-11-09 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:39 PM -0500 11/8/04, Matt Fowles wrote: calling convenctions, traceback, and register allocation Leo suggested a new way to invoke functions which would clean up calling, tracebacks, and register allocation. While such a change would have great aesthetic value, Dan declared it

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-23 through 2004-11-01

2004-11-07 Thread Stéphane Payrard
Rereading this excellent summary, I note that I did not keep people posted on my problem. > Stephane Payrard asked about some problems he had encountered creating > the magical all in one Siva PMC. Leo provided a helpful prod towards > LVALUE_CAST. The other problems may or may not rel

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-23 through 2004-11-01

2004-11-02 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-23 through 2004-11-01 >newsub opcodes > Leo wanted to add some newsub opcodes to save allocations. Dan countered > that it would be a better thing to get constant pmcs working properly. Not quite. The C opcodes were a

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-23 through 2004-11-01

2004-11-01 Thread Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon
Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Parrot on AMD64 > Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon managed to find an AMD64 for himself. Not only > am I jealous, but Parrot passes all expected tests on it when one adds > --ccflags=':add{ -fPIC }'. I then patched Parrot so that Configure would auto

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-26 Thread Austin Hastings
Every once in a while some fascist proposes installing TV cameras in all public places, and I think, "Oh, God! Nothing good can come of this!" and resist heartily. Larry Wall wrote: The only bizarre and inexplicable thing that has occurred to me in the last week is that I fell into a canal in V

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-26 Thread Michele Dondi
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Larry Wall wrote: : No, it means Larry's about to stun us with something seemingly bizarre : and inexplicable which turns out to be a stroke of genius. The only bizarre and inexplicable thing that has occurred to me in the last week is that I fell into a canal in Venice. It wa

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-26 Thread Matthew Walton
Larry Wall wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 09:35:27PM +0100, Matthew Walton wrote: : Austin Hastings wrote: : >Does this mean that we're done? :) : : No, it means Larry's about to stun us with something seemingly bizarre : and inexplicable which turns out to be a stroke of genius. The only biza

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-25 Thread Uri Guttman
> "LW" == Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: LW> The only bizarre and inexplicable thing that has occurred to me in LW> the last week is that I fell into a canal in Venice. It was LW> definitely somewhat stunning, but I have yet to figure out how to LW> view it as a stroke of geni

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-25 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 09:35:27PM +0100, Matthew Walton wrote: : Austin Hastings wrote: : >Does this mean that we're done? :) : : No, it means Larry's about to stun us with something seemingly bizarre : and inexplicable which turns out to be a stroke of genius. The only bizarre and inexplicab

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-21 Thread Michele Dondi
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Austin Hastings wrote: Yes: no traffic at all for quite a while... Does this mean that we're done? :) By any means... I don't think so! I wonder if this could in any way support what occasionally trolls claim e.g. in clpmisc, i.e. that the Perl community is devoted to the c

Externals in Repository (again) (was Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17)

2004-10-20 Thread Robert
I understand Dan's view that parrot should be 100% self contained, but I really think its silly to inline CPAN modules into our CVS repository. I have a compromise solution, which might satisfy Dan. 1. I create a new parrot-external-dependencies CVS repository. All external dependencies that Dan w

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-20 Thread Peter Scott
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Walton) writes: >Austin Hastings wrote: >> Does this mean that we're done? :) > >No, it means Larry's about to stun us with something seemingly bizarre >and inexplicable which turns out to be a stroke of genius. This conjured up an ima

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-19 Thread Matthew Walton
Austin Hastings wrote: Michele Dondi wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Matt Fowles wrote: Google groups has nothing for Perl6.language between October 2 and 14. Is this really the case? (I had not signed up until shortly before Yes: no traffic at all for quite a while... Does this mean that we're done

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-19 Thread Austin Hastings
Michele Dondi wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Matt Fowles wrote: Google groups has nothing for Perl6.language between October 2 and 14. Is this really the case? (I had not signed up until shortly before Yes: no traffic at all for quite a while... Does this mean that we're done? :)

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-19 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
--- Matt Fowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua Gatcomb accidentally introduced a dependency > on > Config::IniFiles. Since it is implemented in pure > perl he offered to > add it to the repository. Warnock applies. > > http://xrl.us/div3 In the note offering to fix it, I also listed nume

Re: Perl 6 Summary for 2004-10-01 through 2004-10-17

2004-10-19 Thread Michele Dondi
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Matt Fowles wrote: Google groups has nothing for Perl6.language between October 2 and 14. Is this really the case? (I had not signed up until shortly before Yes: no traffic at all for quite a while... Michele -- Except people don't actually read the documentation, and when the

Re: Perl 6 Summary for last week (JVM->PBC)

2002-10-22 Thread Gopal V
If memory serves me right, Piers Cawley wrote: /me is a newcomer from DotGNU ... and has missed the mails quoted, hence here's what I have .. > Regarding JVM - Parrot Compatibility > Newcomer Karthik Kumar is interested in writing a tool to convert java > ".class" files to parrot ".

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-23 Thread Josef Hook
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Piers Cawley wrote: > Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Piers Cawley wrote: > > > >> Happy birthday to me! > > > > > > Congratulations. > > > >> ... by my turning 35 on the 15th > > > > > > 44 on 16th - yes Sept. > > Congrats to you too. So, should I s

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-22 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 04:42:13PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: > Steve Fink committed his IntList patch, and Josef Höök queried the > creation of an intlist.c file in the parrot core, as his matrix patch > had been rejected for doing something similar. Nobody has responded to > thi

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-19 Thread Piers Cawley
Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley wrote: > >> Happy birthday to me! > > > Congratulations. > >> ... by my turning 35 on the 15th > > > 44 on 16th - yes Sept. Congrats to you too. So, should I start maintaining a birthday database for the summaries? Probably not. --

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-19 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley wrote: > > Happy birthday to me! Congratulations. > ... by my turning 35 on the 15th 44 on 16th - yes Sept. and thanks for the kudos, leo

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-19 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Kay Röpke wrote: > > On Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002, at 17:42 Europe/Berlin, Piers Cawley wrote: > >> IMCC / Mac OS X problem > Have those patches committed, yet? I tried last night (instead of > sleeping...;-)) but failed utterly. No, sorry. I'm still waiting for my imcc 0.0.9 patch to be chec

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-19 Thread Kay Röpke
On Wednesday, Sep 18, 2002, at 17:42 Europe/Berlin, Piers Cawley wrote: > IMCC / Mac OS X problem > Leon Brocard (yay! Still batting 100% on this one...) has been > having > problems building IMCC under Mac OS X. The individual .c files all > compile, but bad things happen at link t

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-18 Thread Piers Cawley
Aaron Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 11:42, Piers Cawley wrote: >> The Perl 6 Summary for the Week Ending 20020915 >> Happy birthday to me! > > Indeed! > > And thank you so much for this. You have a way of taking a tangled mess > of discussion that's even confusin

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-15

2002-09-18 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 11:42, Piers Cawley wrote: > The Perl 6 Summary for the Week Ending 20020915 > Happy birthday to me! Indeed! And thank you so much for this. You have a way of taking a tangled mess of discussion that's even confusing the participants and making it easy to digest (no pun

RE: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-01

2002-09-03 Thread Venkata Suresh Babu (STP)
Hi team., thanx in advance Can you provide me a link or a zip file where i can download perl6 or perl 5.6 for solaris 7 or solaris 8 Would be appreciated.. cheers venkat -Original Message- From: Piers Cawley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:57 PM To:

Re: Perl 6 Summary For Week Ending 2002-08-25

2002-08-27 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Piers Cawley wrote: ( a lot ;-) Thanks for this really informative summary. Must be a lot of work. > ... Actually, Leopold was something of a patch monster this week, Of course, you missed all my private mails to Sean WRT imcc & perl6 patches ;-) > If I read his post right, Leopol

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 20020728

2002-08-01 Thread Russ Allbery
pdcawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bugger, I used L and pod2text broke it. > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10797.html perlpodspec sez you can't use L<...|...> with a URL, and I'm guessing that I just didn't look at that case when writing the parsing code in pod2text because of that. -- Russ Al

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 20020728

2002-08-01 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On 1 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The mailing list archives are still not searchable (tell me about it), > but Brent Dax points out that the ever wonderful Google has the "site:" > keyword to do search restriction. I foresee a handy little autobookmark > appearing on my gal

Re: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 20020714

2002-07-15 Thread Luke Palmer
> ..., and someone pointed out that it had a problem > with code like "{ some_function_returning_a_hash() }". Should it give a > closure? Or a hash ref? ... Oh, well now that it's stated this way... (something went wrong in my brain when I read the actual message) It returns a clos

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-07 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:03 AM -0600 7/7/02, Thom Boyer wrote: >And thanks for the pointers. I've been out of touch with the Perl >community the last couple of years. It's been exciting seeing how >Perl 6 is shaping up, but I'm having a hard time making up lost >time. The postings to perl6-language often take for

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-06 Thread Larry Wall
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Thom Boyer wrote: : Has there been any indication whether those suggestions have met : with Larry's approval? There will certainly be support for that sort of thing in Parrot, up to and including continuations. Otherwise we cannot hope to host all these other languages. Exac

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-06 Thread Thom Boyer
Peter Scott wrote: > At 01:54 PM 7/3/02 -0600, Thom Boyer wrote: > >> I'm personally MUCH more interested in Python's generators >> . >> >> A generator is like an iterator in that it can produce >> a series of values. But unlike iterators, when you ask

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-03 Thread John Porter
[restricted to -internals, since that's the only one I'm on] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh yes. John Porter suggested that 'maybe Damian should write > [the grammar]?'. Which leads me to postulate an analog to Godwin's > Law, tailored to the perl 6 process, stating that at some point in any > th

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-03 Thread Larry Wall
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Ashley Winters wrote: : Creepy. Here's my creepy thought for the day: is there a possibility for a : prototype which would implicitly wrap a sub{} around a passed-in argument? : i.e. lazy evaluation via sub prototype? : : sub check_it_out (&$idx is rw, &$val is rw) { : $

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-03 Thread Erik Steven Harrison
>But unlike >iterators, when you ask a generator for the next value, it picks up >execution exactly where >it left off when it returned the last value -- i Aren't these what The Damien calls coroutines? Are we getting coroutines (RFC 30, as I recall . . .)? I'm also big on seeing these. Also,

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 5:07 PM -0700 7/3/02, Peter Scott wrote: >At 01:54 PM 7/3/02 -0600, Thom Boyer wrote: >>I'm personally MUCH more interested in >>Python's generators >>. >> >>A generator is like an iterator in that it can produce a series of values. >>But unlike >>itera

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-03 Thread Peter Scott
At 01:54 PM 7/3/02 -0600, Thom Boyer wrote: >I'm personally MUCH more interested in >Python's generators >. > >A generator is like an iterator in that it can produce a series of values. >But unlike >iterators, when you ask a generator for the next value, i

Re: Perl 6 Summary

2002-07-03 Thread Ashley Winters
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 12:54 pm, Thom Boyer wrote: > To get a better feel for the weirdness that happens with pass-by-name, > consider this example: > sub check_it_out { > $_[0] = 0; #step 1 > $_[1] = 7; #step 2 > } > > my @a = (0,1,2,3,4); > my $i = 2; > check_it_out($i, $a

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