Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-11-06 Thread Smylers
Shlomi Fish writes: > On Wednesday 02 November 2005 08:23, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > Given that the existing interface is pretty simple, I really don't > > see why one has to completely fork the code base just to put on a > > new interface. Surely any new code with a fancy new interface can

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-11-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 08:23, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 03:16:01PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > I'd like to see > > > that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness rather than in a fork. > > > > Well, I started with Test::Harness and gradually revamped it. The pr

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-11-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 03:16:01PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > I'd like to see > > that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness rather than in a fork. > > Well, I started with Test::Harness and gradually revamped it. The problem is > that some aspects of the T::H interface suck, and I had to

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-11-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Michael! Thanks for your commentary. On Monday 10 October 2005 23:27, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:53:34PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Let me know what you think. > > $ perl -Ilib -wle 'use Test::Shlomif::Harness::Obj; >  Test::Shlomif::Harness::Obj->new->runtests(te

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-13 Thread Andy Lester
Since this is a community, you can also work with him to make it all work out. Shlomi and I have already discussed this. I don't think anyone should have to get anyone's permission to play with open source code. That's exactly right, they don't, and I would never presume to tell them that

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-13 Thread _brian_d_foy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:52:49PM -0700, chromatic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I do NOT want to see that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness. > > I have a few ideas myself on how to make T::H a little more clean

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-11 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 08:33:48 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just as a comment, I used the TAP doco to write a VB console app for > testing the non-GUI (library) part of a VB application I recently became > responsible for. The console app writes TAP to STDOUT, and this can be > picked up by

RE: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-11 Thread leif . eriksen
-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >That said, now that TAP is well documented (yay), there's nothing wrong >with writing other harnesses. Just as a comment, I used the TAP doco to write a VB console app for testing the non-GUI (library) part of a V

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-11 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Andy Lester wrote in perl.qa : > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:52:49PM -0700, chromatic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > I do NOT want to see that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness. > >> I have a few ideas myself on how to make T::H a little more clean and >> useful, but I'd have to do some ref

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-11 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The real issue is that, if Shlomi had come to me and discussed the > issues rather than "I want to fork Test::Harness", we could have worked > together. Instead, it's "I want color-coding of tests, and T::H doesn't > do what I want, so I'm gonna go fork it

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 10 October 2005 23:41, Andy Lester wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:27:03PM -0700, Michael G Schwern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > The way you've broken down the nattier bits of Test::Harness, such as > > _show_results(), into digestable functions has value. I'd like to see > > that

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:38:20PM -0700, chromatic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I agree that his approach was inappropriate. Still, he has working code > and that's significant. > > http://petdance.com/perl/geek-culture/ I don't think Shlomi's a fuckhead, nor do I have the bozo bit flipped agai

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread chromatic
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 17:22 -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > The real issue is that, if Shlomi had come to me and discussed the > issues rather than "I want to fork Test::Harness", we could have worked > together. Instead, it's "I want color-coding of tests, and T::H doesn't > do what I want, so I'm g

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:52:49PM -0700, chromatic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I do NOT want to see that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness. > I have a few ideas myself on how to make T::H a little more clean and > useful, but I'd have to do some refactorings myself on a private fork to

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread chromatic
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 16:41 -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > I do NOT want to see that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness. > > I would like anyone who presumes that he's going to change the internals > of a module I maintain to talk to me about a general overview of the > changes first, rather

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Andy Lester
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 02:27:03PM -0700, Michael G Schwern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The way you've broken down the nattier bits of Test::Harness, such as > _show_results(), into digestable functions has value. I'd like to see > that sort of thing as patches to Test::Harness rather than in a

Re: First (developers) Release of Test::Shlomif::Harness

2005-10-10 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:53:34PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Let me know what you think. $ perl -Ilib -wle 'use Test::Shlomif::Harness::Obj; Test::Shlomif::Harness::Obj->new->runtests(test_files => [EMAIL PROTECTED])' t/*.t Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at lib/Test/Shlom