David Green writes:
> >So making it "go in the core" may just mean that it's
> >on the list of recommended modules to install.
>
> Does that mean having to "use Some::Module" to use it?
Not necessarily. Glop, on which I'm doing a presentation at OSCON (have
to plug it sometime ;-), makes use of
Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on July 22, 2004:
Even more philosophical is "what is core?"
I believe the standard definition is "Anything I want to use goes in
the core; anything everyone else wants goes wherever there's room
left over." ...
So making it "go in the core" may just mean th
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 05:25:38PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 04:28:08PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here:
>
> Oooh. Nice
Agreed. I think it is a great start. Thanks very much for your work.
> > Max Kwal
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 04:28:08PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here:
>
> http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/
> ( or http://test1.dev.zsi.at if DNS isn't updated..)
>
> in /metrics there is a yaml-file for each dist
> cpants.db (or cpants.db.gz) is a
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 05:00:05AM -0700, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Bowden) writes:
>
> [...]
> > The two "best" ideas we've had so far are to either run the SQL in the
> > code against a temporary database, and then compare both SHOW CREATE
> > TABLE outputs, or to use so
- Original Message -
From: Dan Hursh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: Why do users need FileHandles?
> Luke Palmer wrote:
>
> > JOSEPH RYAN writes:
> >
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: David Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Date: Monday, Ju
Luke Palmer wrote:
JOSEPH RYAN writes:
- Original Message -
From: David Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Why do users need FileHandles?
Second, I would suggest that it NOT go in a library...this is
reasonably serious under-the-hood magic and shoul
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 04:37:29PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> No Yes
> -- ---
> @foo@foo[1]
> %bar%bar{"a"} or %bar«a»
> $foo.bar$foo.bar()
> &foo &foo(1)
>
> In this worldview, $foo is an exception only because it doesn't natural
Larry Wall wrote:
No Yes
-- ---
@foo@foo[1]
%bar%bar{"a"} or %bar«a»
$foo.bar$foo.bar()
&foo&foo(1)
I may have missed it, but what are the contexts in these cases? I'm
thinking the first two are easily scalar. Are the second list
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 04:37:29PM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> We allowed/required @foo to interpolate in Perl 5, and it catches a
> certain number of people off guard regularly, including yours truly.
> So I can argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] both ways.
Currently @foo[] is a syntax error. maybe "@foo[]"
JOSEPH RYAN writes:
> When I think about your description of xxx, I
> summarized it in my head as "Call a coderef a certain
> number of times, and then collect the results."
> That's pretty much what map is, except that xxx is
> infix and map is prefix.
>
>
> @results = { ... } xxx 10
- Original Message -
From: James Mastros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2004 5:03 am
Subject: xx and re-running
> Recently on perlmonks, at
> http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=375255,
> someone (DWS, actually) brought up the common error of expecting x
> (in
> particula
- Original Message -
From: Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: Why do users need FileHandles?
>> JOSEPH RYAN writes:
> >
> > How would integrating this in the core make it more efficient? Core
> > or not, I'd see something like this being im
JOSEPH RYAN writes:
> - Original Message -
> From: David Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:04 pm
> Subject: Re: Why do users need FileHandles?
>
> > Second, I would suggest that it NOT go in a library...this is
> > reasonably serious under-the-hood magic and should
Joshua Gatcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 5. -mno-accumulate-outgoing-args is NOT required to
> make JIT work properly.
It will be required, as soon as USE_CGP is turned on again.
config/auto/gcc.pl should set it, but obviously doesn't for cygwin.
leo
- Original Message -
From: David Storrs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: Why do users need FileHandles?
> Second, I would suggest that it NOT go in a library...this is
> reasonably serious under-the-hood magic and should be integrated into
> the core for
--- chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 14:04, David Storrs wrote:
>
> > Second, I would suggest that it NOT go in a library...this is
> > reasonably serious under-the-hood magic and should be integrated
> into
> > the core for efficiency.
>
> You must have amazingly fast
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 14:04, David Storrs wrote:
> Second, I would suggest that it NOT go in a library...this is
> reasonably serious under-the-hood magic and should be integrated into
> the core for efficiency.
You must have amazingly fast hard drives.
-- c
"David Storrs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
># Print file, inefficiently
> print $default.readline for 1..$default.lines;
print it efficiently:
print $default;
> # Append a line
> $rw .= "an additional line\n";
$rw ~= "\n" unless $rw.chars[-1] eq "\n";
$rw ~= "an additional l
Hi!
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 05:25:38PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > Max Kwalitee is 10, which is reached by 99 dists.
>
> Will it go up to eleven soon? :-)
as I'm planning to go on vacation next week, probably not...
> > is_prereq (is listed as PREREQ by at least 3 other dists)
>
>
"David Storrs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (apparently may days ago):
> Race condition: what if something deletes the file between the moment
> that perl closes the file and the moment that it re-opens it? Is
> there a cross-platform way to do an atomic reopen?
I'm not sure if you need to close it
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 04:28:08PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here:
Oooh. Nice
> http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/
> ( or http://test1.dev.zsi.at if DNS isn't updated..)
>
> in /metrics there is a yaml-file for each dist
> cpants.db (or cpants.db.
--- "Adam D. Lopresto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The modifier to turn off warnings on a line would be ;), winking at
> us to let us know it's up to something.
I wondered about paren-after-semi, and thought about C. Which
led me to C<@array[a;b;c]>, then to (a;b;c;), which let me to this:
Given
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Michele Dondi wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Robin Berjon wrote:
>
> > >>>Do we have a :) operator yet?
> [snip]
> > We could mimick XQuery where it is the comment terminator.
>
> Well, since it's *optimistically* smiling, it could turn off warnings for
> the statement it refer
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 04:49:24PM +0200, James Mastros wrote:
> Change the procedure to require the bit after __DATA__ to match what
> mysql gives you back? This is actually better then what you do anyway,
> as what mysql gives you is significantly more detailed.
We considered that, but, among
Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
Surely you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of 0..Inf
I think the iterator implicit in array slicing should, and could, be
smart enough to return when there's nothing more to iterate. Considering
the following code:
@foo = (1, 2, 3);
@bar = @foo[1..Inf];
@bar should
On 20 July 2004 22:30 Robert Rothenberg wrote:
> I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the
> dependencies of a given
> CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any
> failure reports of that
> distro or dependent distros for a given platform.
One thing to remember, is that
Hi!
I ran CPANTS today, you can view results here:
http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/
( or http://test1.dev.zsi.at if DNS isn't updated..)
in /metrics there is a yaml-file for each dist
cpants.db (or cpants.db.gz) is a SQLite DB file
Oh, there might be a bug, because 100 dists didn't get any kwalite
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Robin Berjon wrote:
> >>>Do we have a :) operator yet?
[snip]
> We could mimick XQuery where it is the comment terminator.
Well, since it's *optimistically* smiling, it could turn off warnings for
the statement it refers to.
Michele
--
> [...] is like requiring to play te
If you have read any of my previous posts concerning
Cygwin - you will agree that it appears to be a
strange beast. The problem is that outside of
teaching myself Perl a couple of years ago - I don't
have any real experience in this arena. I have no
idea if things are really this bizarre or if I
David Storrs wrote:
On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 06:23:50PM -0400, Austin Hastings wrote:
On Saturday, 17 July, 2004 01:53 Sat, Jul 17, 2004, Juerd wrote:
Do we have a :) operator yet?
It's an adverbial modifier on the core expression type. Does
nothing, but it acts as a line terminator when nothing but
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Damian Conway wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>
> > Actually, I've been rethinking this whole mess since last week, and
> > am seriously considering cranking up the Ruby-o-meter here just a tad.
[snip]
> I can't say I'm keen on making {...} special in strings. I felt that the
> $(...)
Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So Evil Larry? suggests that you embed a Python interpreter and hand off
> the unsuccessful tests back to Python. :-)
Good idea. Here is bx.pir from Evil Leo:
$ cat bx.pir
.sub main @MAIN
.param pmc argv
.const string PY = '/usr/local/bin/python -
Hi!
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:12:39AM -0400, Robert Rothenberg wrote:
> I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a
> given CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure
> reports of that distro or dependent distros for a given platform.
Sounds a l
Matt Diephouse skribis 2004-07-20 20:06 (-0400):
> This is close to the new form() syntax as well, which could be
> considered a plus. I for one won't complain about adding the good things
> from Ruby back in to Perl.
Ehm, no, that means that if you want to interpolate something into the
format
Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : my $d="a";
> : print "--$d--{my $d = "b" }--$d--\n";
>
> Yes, that is correct.
I'm afraid things like this will keep many popular editors and IDEs
from implementing perl6 support...
-- Johan
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 14:51:13 -0400, Ricardo SIGNES
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was going nuts recently, trying to figure out why I couldn't use
> is_deeply to compare objects. I've finally determined that it's only an
> issue (as far as I see) when comparing objects that overload
> dereferencin
Larry Wall wrote:
Actually, I've been rethinking this whole mess since last week, and
am seriously considering cranking up the Ruby-o-meter here just a tad.
At the moment I'm inclined to say that the *only* interpolators in
double quotes are:
\n, \t etc.
$foo
@foo[$i]
%foo{$k}
{
I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a given
CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure reports of that
distro or dependent distros for a given platform.
I would like to work with other people to turn this into something of use to
the community,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Bowden) writes:
[...]
> The two "best" ideas we've had so far are to either run the SQL in the
> code against a temporary database, and then compare both SHOW CREATE
> TABLE outputs, or to use something like SQL::Translator to convert both
> lots of SQL to a common format.
Hello,
I wish to be consistent with shall, so `.' is literal dot in double
strings. I prefer "$file.ext" or "${file}.ext".
For method calls ``$()'' could be used: "$($foo.bar)".
Perhaps, what does "${foo.bar}" mean?
Best regards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Chamberlain) writes:
> > As I figured it out neither...
> >
> > Reason: auth.perl.org is part of the SSO (Single Sign-on) that was
> > created especially for the perl.org domain and its sub-domains.
> >
> > As far as I know it isn't a service that is publicly available.
On Jul 19, 2004, at 8:09 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
The exit code information adds unnecessary extra information to an
already
crowded set of diagnostics. Observe the difference.
Oh, yeah, it's nice that you lose the extra two lines that I, for one,
never paid attention to, anyway.
Regards,
D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Bowden) writes:
[...]
> > > lots of SQL to a common format. Both seem much too cumbersome, however.
> > > Anyone have any brighter ideas?
> > Don't use a temporary database, just a temporary table.
>
> Surely that's more work?
That depends on how you open your databases a
On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 12:10 -0400, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> Austin Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Half of all numbers in [0, Inf) are in the range [Inf/2, Inf). Which
> > collapses to the range [Inf, Inf).
>
> It's not that simple. By that reasoning, 10% of all numbers in
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07.25, Austin Hastings wrote:
> --- Rod Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I cannot open a file for writing (permissions, out of space,
> > write locked, etc), I want to know the instant I attempt to open it
> > as such, _not_ when I later attempt to write to it. Having al
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 03:37:12PM -0500, Rod Adams wrote:
> I think part of the "mental jam" (at least with me), is that the
> read/write, exclusive, etc, are very critical to the act of opening the
> file, not only an after the fact restriction on what I can do later. If
> I cannot open a fil
I have a prototype Perl script that will determine the dependencies of a given
CPAN distribution, and then check CPAN Testers for any failure reports of that
distro or dependent distros for a given platform.
I would like to work with other people to turn this into something of use to
the commun
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 08:39:09PM -0500, Rod Adams wrote:
> Case 1:
> So I wanted to do a read/write scan, so I create my TextFile, start
> reading in data, so the file is opened for reading. Then, I come to the
> part where I want to update something, so I do a write command. Suddenly
> the f
On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 05:36:58PM -0700, Dave Whipp wrote:
> truncate Vs append would be infered from usage (assign => truncate). One
> might be able to infer read Vs write in a similar way -- open the file based
> on the first access; re-open it (behind the scenes) if we write it after
> reading
On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 06:23:50PM -0400, Austin Hastings wrote:
> > On Saturday, 17 July, 2004 01:53 Sat, Jul 17, 2004, Juerd wrote:
> >
> > Do we have a :) operator yet?
>
> It's an adverbial modifier on the core expression type. Does
> nothing, but it acts as a line terminator when nothing but
Tony Bowden wrote:
We have an in-house procedure that says that the SQL definition for a
table should be included in the __DATA__ section of the class that
represents it (we're using Class::DBI), and is to be treated as the
definitive version of the schema.
[cut]
We're having too much difficulty th
Recently on perlmonks, at http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=375255,
someone (DWS, actually) brought up the common error of expecting x (in
particular, listy x, which is xx in perl6) to not create aliases. What
he was doing in particular, I don't have any expectation of making it
work, but
And as promised it runs fast. More then double the speed of Python -
with an unoptimized Parrot build ;)
leo
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