Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-23 Thread mike wilson
> >>> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > >>> > >> Throwing down the gauntlet? > >> > > Looks like the gloves are coming off. > > > I admit only to being

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-23 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote: On 23 February 2010 17:43, mike wilson wrote: You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten.

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-23 Thread David Savage
On 23 February 2010 17:43, mike wilson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I admit only to being smitten. >> >> >>

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-23 Thread mike wilson
> >> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. > >> >> > > >> >> >I admit only to being smitten. > >> >> > >> >> You pointing the finger at me? > >> > > >> >On

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-23 Thread Cotty
>> >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? >> >> >> >> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. >> >> > >> >> >I admit only to being smitten. >> >> >> >> You pointing the finger at me? >> > >> >On the nail. >> >> Bett

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-23 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: > > > >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > >> >> > > >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? > >> >> > >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. > >> > > >> >I admit only to being smitten. > >> > >> You pointing the finger at me? > > > >On the n

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread Cotty
>> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. >> >> > >> >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? >> >> >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. >> > >> >I admit only to being smitten. >> >> You pointing the finger at me? > >On the nail. Better be quick! -- PDML Pentax-Discus

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread eckinator
2010/2/22 David Savage : > On 22 February 2010 18:18, Cotty wrote: >> >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > >Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. >>> >>>I admit only to being smitten. >> >> You pointing the finger

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread David Savage
On 22 February 2010 18:18, Cotty wrote: > > >>> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. >>> > >>> >Throwing down the gauntlet? >>> >>> Looks like the gloves are coming off. >> >>I admit only to being smitten. > > You pointing the finger at me? He's actually pointing to the

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: > > > >> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > >> > > >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? > >> > >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. > > > >I admit only to being smitten. > > You pointing the finger at me? On the nail. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread eckinator
thank you everybody that was very helpful!!! ecke 2010/2/22 Carlos R : > > > eckinator escribió: > >> >> q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n >> else and if so then what? >> > > I have an M 50 mm. 1.4 and an F 50 mm. 1.7. Like Godfrey said, the F 1.7 is > bette

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread Carlos R
eckinator escribió: q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n else and if so then what? I have an M 50 mm. 1.4 and an F 50 mm. 1.7. Like Godfrey said, the F 1.7 is better wide open and up to 2.8, and it is also AF and an "A" lens. The M 1.4 is better built

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread Cotty
>> >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. >> > >> >Throwing down the gauntlet? >> >> Looks like the gloves are coming off. > >I admit only to being smitten. You pointing the finger at me? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: > > >> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > > > >Throwing down the gauntlet? > > Looks like the gloves are coming off. I admit only to being smitten. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to U

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms wrote: > From: mike wilson > > eckinator wrote: > > > >> > q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n > >> > else and if so then what? > > > > You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > > Throwing down the gauntlet? Not eve

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-22 Thread Cotty
>> You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. > >Throwing down the gauntlet? Looks like the gloves are coming off. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: mike wilson eckinator wrote: > q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n > else and if so then what? You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Throwing down the gauntlet? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Ken Waller
I've used collapsible rubber hoods for years - never a problem & they take up very little space when collapsed. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: 50mm lenses and flare On 21/2/10, Bob Sullivan, discomb

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread paul stenquist
quot;Mouser Hair"® I ended up destroying an >> old scratched up UV filter (HOYA by the way), and gluing it to the hood for >> the threads. >> >> On 2/21/2010 3:06 PM, Cotty wrote: >>> >>> On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: &g

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >Gee, just get a 49mm or 52mm screw in metal lens hood from somebody's >scrap bin. >Screw-in is better than clip-on (& fall-off). Metal is more >protective in crashes than plastic. >Any of the standard hoods 50mm lens hoods are wide enough to

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
ver > the clips on that hood are made of  "Mouser Hair"®  I ended up destroying an > old scratched up UV filter (HOYA by the way), and gluing it to the hood for > the threads. > > On 2/21/2010 3:06 PM, Cotty wrote: >> >> On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobul

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. Mark. Wise words. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread mike wilson
eckinator wrote: q...@all: is it generally an ok choice or had i better save up for sump'n else and if so then what? You have to try pretty hard to go wrong with a Pentax 50mm. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread P. J. Alling
"® I ended up destroying an old scratched up UV filter (HOYA by the way), and gluing it to the hood for the threads. On 2/21/2010 3:06 PM, Cotty wrote: On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax cameras: M50/1

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Prices are likely to go up, for some reason they're more expensive than the essentially identical FA 1.7 which is a lot rarer On 2/21/2010 1:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, eckinator wrote: Since we're on the topic already: how much would be a reasonable pr

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's the hood for the Pentax 85/1.8 and other similar models: it works well. The B+W Tele hood also works well. On Sunday, February 21, 2010, Cotty wrote: > On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was sho

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Can't say what my "EXC" really means compared to your "B"... It's very subjective. The 50/1.7 is an excellent choice in 50s. It's sharper wide open than the 1.4 model and handles close up work better. The lens formula is the same from M to A to F. The As were cheapened with a plastic aperture ring

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread eckinator
perhaps the one that comes with the dfa 50? 2010/2/21 Cotty : > On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax >>cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8 >>Macro

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax >cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8 >Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for >any of the 50/1

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Be sure you're using a good, deep lens hood. That is one thing my 50s don't have. Anybody have recommendations? It's either that or arrange with the subjects that you can reposition yourself and them such that these windows are not in t

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread eckinator
2010/2/21 Godfrey DiGiorgi : > > The last one I had was sold in 2006 for $135 or so, IIRC. It was in > EXC condition. ty godfrey =) eBay item 220556654576 it is at € 99 now which is interestingly just those $135 but there is still some time to go so it will go a tad bit higher yet at least how doe

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, eckinator wrote: > Since we're on the topic already: how much would be a reasonable price > for the smc-F 50/1.7 in B condition? > TIA ecke The last one I had was sold in 2006 for $135 or so, IIRC. It was in EXC condition. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Be sure you're using a good, deep lens hood. I used a number of the 50mm lenses when I was shooting with Pentax cameras: M50/1.4, A50/1.4, A50/1.7, F50/1.7, FA50/1.4 and A50/2.8 Macro. There's no substantive difference in the tendency to flare for any of the 50/1.4s, and not much differ

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread eckinator
Since we're on the topic already: how much would be a reasonable price for the smc-F 50/1.7 in B condition? TIA ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the dir

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Larry, Those are some pretty dynamic photos. Good job! Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >> Our dojo is doing belt tests this week.  I was taking pictures this >> morning and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Our dojo is doing belt tests this week. I was taking pictures this morning and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light coming in through the windows. While the remaining tests will be in the evening, for future reference would

Re: 50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Since the fa and the Super Takumar have pretty much identical optical formulas and the FA has much improved coatings I doubt that the Tak. will be better. I always found the 50 f1.7 to be very good but in extreme situation you'll get flair with any lens. On 2/20/2010 6:48 PM, Larry Colen wrot

50mm lenses and flare

2010-02-20 Thread Larry Colen
Our dojo is doing belt tests this week. I was taking pictures this morning and my p-fa 50/1.4 had lots of nasty flare from the light coming in through the windows. While the remaining tests will be in the evening, for future reference would the M 50/1.7 or the supertakumar 50/1.4 be notic

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation (help with math)

2005-04-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" Subject: Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation (help with math) I> Is my math wrong on that, or are most of these lenses equal on the *ist-D / DS? And for that matter, more or less equal with most films except

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation (help with math)

2005-04-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Apr 2005 at 21:10, Mark Cassino wrote: > I can't get the original page to load, so thanks to Fred for posting the > extracted page. > > I'm rather surprised by how poorly the FA 1.7 does at wider apertures. > Similarly surprised that the Ricoh 50mm f2.0 did so poorly. > > I'm trying to p

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation (help with math)

2005-04-14 Thread Mark Cassino
about as good as my math.) - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:57 AM Subje

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with simplified Chinese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Apr 2005 at 16:05, Mark Roberts wrote: > Thanks for that Fred. > Kind of odd testing, IMHO: I was expecting the two curves in each graph > to represent sagittal and tangential MTF numbers, not center and edge. That would be appropriate for an MTF graph, ie contrast ratio vs distance from t

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Apr 2005 at 19:43, John Whittingham wrote: > The graphs look so similar to the AP tests I think I could probably cross > reference, I'm sure I've got the tests on both A 50mm 1.2 and K 50mm 1.2 some > where Contrast on the K lens is poorer across the board. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRA

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Apr 2005 at 11:57, Fred wrote: > I think that the charts pretty much confirm my own experiences, although > I'm comparing all A lenses (substituting my A models for the FA 50/1.4 and > FA 50/1.7 lenses). That is to say, I ~still~ think that - > > 1. My favorite 50 is the A 50/1.4. > > 2.

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread williamsp
Quoting Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major > > 50mm lenses out there. > > Actually, I thought that Canon is conspicuous in its absence. Doesn't > Canon make 50mm lenses? (I have to believe that C

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with simplified Chinese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
>>Thanks, Godfrey. I just updated my "Xitek K-Mount 50mm Lens Tests" page >>with Babel Fish translations. (I'd appreciate it if someone would check to >>see that I put the right text with the right lens in each case - thanks in >>advance.) >> >>The URL - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/xitek50/

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with simplified Chinese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Babelfish does a useful job of translating the page from simplified >> Chinese to English: http://babelfish.altavista.com/ > >Thanks, Godfrey. I just updated my "Xitek K-Mount 50mm Lens Tests" page >with Babel Fish translations. (I'd appreciate it if someone wo

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> The A 50/1.2 and the A 50/2 were never replaced with autofocus versions, > and they (and a few other A and A* lenses) have had a "life" for many > years after most of the other A lenses were "retired". I really should have included "a few K lenses" in the above comment, too... Fred

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
> Still, yes, it'd be ~great~ if they had "tested 'em all" while they > were at it - . The graphs look so similar to the AP tests I think I could probably cross reference, I'm sure I've got the tests on both A 50mm 1.2 and K 50mm 1.2 some where John

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> It'a pitty they didn't test the K 50mm f/1.2 for comparison with the A. Well, I guess they tested just the available-as-new Pentax 50's. The A 50/1.2 and the A 50/2 were never replaced with autofocus versions, and they (and a few other A and A* lenses) have had a "life" for many years after mos

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
>> Oh, and what's "IYNSHO"? ;-) > In your not so humble opinion ;-)) Ah, then you know me pretty well, Shel - . Fred

Re: Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Francis
John Whittingham mused: > > > JANET's a little sleepy this afternoon. 8-) > > Nothing new, I've got a faster connection at home these days - Pathetic! That's not surprising. One of my friends now has 20 megabit optical service to his house, and just yesterday I received a mailing offering me 4/

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
>> I doubt it. The M series was a major redesign from the K, and the look >> I get from the K50/1.4 and the M50/1.4 is different. > Well, looking at bdmitrov's pages, the K, M, and A all depart somewhat > in the relationship of elements' curvature and thickness. Whether it's > the drawing or wh

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
In your not so humble opinion ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Oh, and what's "IYNSHO"? ;-)

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
It'a pitty they didn't test the K 50mm f/1.2 for comparison with the A. John -- Original Message --- From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fred Sent: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:31:49 -0400 Subject: Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation > >&

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> My favorite 50 is the K50/1.4 - most especially for B&W use. Still > looking for a better sample than the one I now have. BTW, Fred, how does > the K compare to the A, IYNSHO? Hi, Shel. I'm sorry. but I don't remember the K that well anymore - I haven't had a K version of the 50/1.4 in quite

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
If the size, shape, and placements of the elements change, which I believe was the case, and which appears to be shown in the diagrams on Boz's page, I'd suggest that it's a major redesign. Of course, the changes may have been small by appearance, and one may say that, based upon appearance, the c

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
>> Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major >> 50mm lenses out there. > Just for simplicity (to make it easier to compare the K-mount 50's), I put > the Pentax and Ricoh lens charts on a page at > http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/xitek50/ &g

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with simplified Chinese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> Babelfish does a useful job of translating the page from simplified > Chinese to English: http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Thanks, Godfrey. I just updated my "Xitek K-Mount 50mm Lens Tests" page with Babel Fish translations. (I'd appreciate it if someone would check to see that I put the right

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 13, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I doubt it. The M series was a major redesign from the K, and the look I get from the K50/1.4 and the M50/1.4 is different. Well, looking at bdmitrov's pages, the K, M, and A all depart somewhat in the relationship of elements' curvature and thi

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Peter J. Alling
You're right about the M50 1.7 Shel, it was the replacement for the [K]55 1.8. I'm not sure that the M50 1.4 would be called a major redesign, (except for the mechanics that is), but all of the tooling had to be changed which along with improvements in coatings may account for some difference i

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Alin Flaider
I apologize for the confusion - it is indeed Chinese, and here is the translation a kind soul sent it to me off-list. Thank you, Oh Cheng Yu. Servus, Alin Oh Cheng Yu wrote: " I have read the above post in the archive as I don't subscribe. The words are in Chinese, not Japanese. Here is

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Godfrey, I doubt it. The M series was a major redesign from the K, and the look I get from the K50/1.4 and the M50/1.4 is different. As far as I can recall,, there was never a K50/1.7, so your comment doesn't seem right on that point, either. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGi

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have the A50/1.4, A50/1.7, A50/2 and F50/1.7. My understanding is that the A50/1.4 was a small redesign/improvement over the M50/1.4 ... the M and K should be identical optically, the A, F and FA versions identical optically. I've never owned any other Pentax 50/1.4 so I can't compare. The f

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with simplified Chinese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 13, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Fred wrote: Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major 50mm lenses out there. Actually, I thought that Canon is conspicuous in its absence. Doesn't Canon make 50mm lenses? (I have to believe that Canon does...) Babelfish does a usefu

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What's the deal with the A50/1.7? My favorite 50 is the K50/1.4 - most especially for B&W use. Still looking for a better sample than the one I now have. BTW, Fred, how does the K compare to the A, IYNSHO? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Fred > Just for simplicity (to make it easier to c

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major > 50mm lenses out there. Just for simplicity (to make it easier to compare the K-mount 50's), I put the Pentax and Ricoh lens charts on a page at http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/xitek50/ If anyone can come up w

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with simplified Chinese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 13, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Fred wrote: Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major 50mm lenses out there. Actually, I thought that Canon is conspicuous in its absence. Doesn't Canon make 50mm lenses? (I have to believe that Canon does...) Babelfish does a usefu

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major > 50mm lenses out there. Actually, I thought that Canon is conspicuous in its absence. Doesn't Canon make 50mm lenses? (I have to believe that Canon does...) Fred

Re: Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
> JANET's a little sleepy this afternoon. 8-) Nothing new, I've got a faster connection at home these days - Pathetic! John -- Original Message --- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:33:36 +0000 Subject: Re: R

Re: Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/04/13 Wed PM 02:13:41 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation > > > Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
> Very slow loading for me, too... Cheers Fred... John

Re: [Bulk] Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread KT Takeshita
On 4/13/05 10:04 AM, "John Whittingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I was wondering if one of our resident japanese list members might >> help me understand the significance of the left chart versus the >> right one. Is the left one for high (1:1000) contrast level and the >> other one f

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Alan Chan
--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all > > major 50mm lenses out there. > > Very slow loading, or is it my connection? Many sites from mainland China are slow indeed. That is Simplified Chinese b

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Fred
> Very slow loading, or is it my connection? Very slow loading for me, too... Fred

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
> Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all > major 50mm lenses out there. Very slow loading, or is it my connection? John

Re: 50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
> I was wondering if one of our resident japanese list members might > help me understand the significance of the left chart versus the > right one. Is the left one for high (1:1000) contrast level and the > other one for reduced (1:1.6) ? It looks similar to the charts published by Amate

50mm lenses test pages: help with japanese translation

2005-04-13 Thread Alin Flaider
Below is a link to an interesting page with test charts for all major 50mm lenses out there. I was wondering if one of our resident japanese list members might help me understand the significance of the left chart versus the right one. Is the left one for high (1:1000) contrast level

Re: 50mm lenses. ....Re: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program (update)

2004-08-10 Thread Antonio
Fred, for me there is more goinging on between the diffent 50's than resolution alone. For me (and this is just an opinion here) resolution is just an indication of whether a lens is gonnna be a poor performer or not. I.e. Just something to check isnt too bad. But the real qualities of a lens, i.e

Re: 50mm lenses. ....Re: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program (update)

2004-08-10 Thread Antonio
I agree Rob. I dont own the 1.2 but have found that A50/1.4 and A50/1.7 are very different lenses in terms of image renditio as well as sharpness. A50/1.7 is a fine, very sharp lens at most apetures but seems to lack the 3-D quality of the A50/1.4. For me it is almost as if the A50/1.7 is TOO sharp

Re: 50mm lenses. ....Re: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program (update)

2004-08-10 Thread Fred
> I don't have many samples of each, but I have almost a dozen 50mm > lenses in various places around the house, so I have been able to > test (as much as I test anything) more than one sample of most > emulations. I did some (limited, of course) testing of a number of samples

Re: 50mm lenses. ....Re: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program (update)

2004-08-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Aug 2004 at 18:00, William Robb wrote: > The A 50mm f/1.2 is pretty soft wide open (though much better than > the Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 that I replaced with the Pentax lens), and is > only ok until about f/8, at which point it is very good indeed. I tested my Screw 55/1.8, A50/1.7, A50/1.4 and

50mm lenses. ....Re: LX vs K2dmd vs Super Program (update)

2004-08-10 Thread William Robb
'd recommend putting money towards > a better telephoto or wider wide if you find the need for that. All the Pentax 50mm lenses in the f/1.4 to f/2 range are good lenses (perhaps the K55mm f/1.8 is the exception, it isn't all that wonderful until well stopped down). Of all the ones I ha

Re: Vs: 3 50mm lenses

2003-12-25 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "Raimo Korhonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Small differences. The El Cheapo 2/50 fares quite well. What aperture(s) did you use? All images are shot at f4 with a shutter speed of 1/750 Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \

Vs: 3 50mm lenses

2003-12-25 Thread Raimo Korhonen
TECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 25. joulukuuta 2003 6:19 Aihe: 3 50mm lenses >Here are 3 images taken with the *istD at f4/750 >All images use a polarisor, and my daughter grudgingly >dragged herself from her new toys to stand in. > >1) SMC Pentax FA 50mm 1:1.4-22 >htt

Re: AW: 3 50mm lenses

2003-12-25 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "keller.schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, 1.7/50 is the best - or could the FA be even better focussed manually? When you say 'best', what criteria are you using? I too wondered at the auto focus capabilities of the FA lens. Kind regards Kevin -- __

AW: 3 50mm lenses

2003-12-25 Thread keller.schaefer
So, 1.7/50 is the best - or could the FA be even better focussed manually? Sven -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Dezember 2003 05:25 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: 3 50mm lenses Here are 3 images taken with the *istD at

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-31 Thread Fred
>> The 1.4 performs way better at f/1.4 than the f/1.7 does. :-) :-) >> :-) > Not the 2 A50/1.4 that I had. The A50/1.7 was noticably sharper at > wide open. The 50/1.4 wasn't sharp until f4, similar to the > FA*84/1.4. My experience with some A 50/1.4's and A 50/1.7's differs. I found the A 50/

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Roland Mabo
I wrote: The 1.4 performs way better at f/1.4 than the f/1.7 does. :-) :-) :-) Alan Chan wrote: Not the 2 A50/1.4 that I had. The A50/1.7 was noticably sharper at wide open. The 50/1.4 wasn't sharp until f4, similar to the FA*84/1.4. But the 50 f/1.4 still performs better at f/1.4, because the f

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 May 2003 at 16:47, Mike Ignatiev wrote: > you may also want to try a (cheap) rangefinder. the lack of mirror and bright > viewfinder may buy you a couple of stops -- more than you'll ever get from slr, > no matter how much money you throw into it. And you'll probably also have more lost sho

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 May 2003 at 1:10, Anthony Farr wrote: > The A50/1.7 has a common fault with its aperture ring that involves the "A" > button. The button sits in a strip of spring steel that is anchored at each end > to the plastic of the aperture ring (by small rivets IIRC). One of the rivets > sometimes

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Daniel Liu
Thanks everyone, I think I'll wait and get the 1.4. It's not so much of a focusing issue for me, it's being able to get a decent shot off in a dark room without a tripod, so the 2.8 is out. Candid shots, remember? In the meantime, I'll stick with my f/2. --Daniel Liu "The to

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Bob Blakely
If you fix this problem, I favor a very, very small dot of JB weld (epoxy) as I always have it around for many other purposes. It too requires that the lens remain unassembled for a few days as with all glues and epoxies, but after 24 hrs there is less out gassing and it will NEVER fail. In additio

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Wilensky
I believe there's a build quality issue with the SMC-A 50/1.7 that doesn't exist even with the similar A 50/2 -- I probably read about it here, and it happened with the A 50/1.7 I owned for a while. The f-stop ring detents deteriorate in some way, I don't remember if it's because of a gear or s

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Ignatiev
you may also want to try a (cheap) rangefinder. the lack of mirror and bright viewfinder may buy you a couple of stops -- more than you'll ever get from slr, no matter how much money you throw into it. best, mishka

Re: 50mm Lenses - or 50/2.8 macro then?

2003-05-29 Thread Rfsindg
ll 50's? It has > "floating elements", so it should perform well in infinity too. f2.8 was > standard for 50mm lenses many years ago.

Re: 50mm Lenses - or 50/2.8 macro then?

2003-05-29 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
quot;floating elements", so it should perform well in infinity too. f2.8 was standard for 50mm lenses many years ago. -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-29 Thread Roland Mabo
From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 02:34:07 -0700 I don't think it's going to make a lot of difference. Besides, the 1.4 doesn't perform well at wide open. You might find yourself with more useful shots with the 1.7. But the 1.4 is a brighter lens, so it's easier to focu

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-29 Thread Alan Chan
I don't think it's going to make a lot of difference. Besides, the 1.4 doesn't perform well at wide open. You might find yourself with more useful shots with the 1.7. regards, Alan Chan Or if any one has an A 1.4 lens they'd like to sell/tradethough i'm afraid my budget is very, very limite

Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-29 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Daniel Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:09:56 -0700 Hmm, a little off topic here, but anyway: I have a great SMC-A 50mm f/2 lens now, but i find that i do an awful lot of low light interior candid shots. I have a chance to get the A 50mm f/1.7 for $25, but that's not much

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