Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-13 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 03:26:02PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: :Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2016-09-12 17:55:34 -0400: :> I also think that small team with small deployments has little :> incentive to invest in *heavy* automation (to help themselves) and/or :> tools to delegate its oper

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mathieu Gagné's message of 2016-09-12 17:55:34 -0400: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Kris G. Lindgren > > wrote: > >> > >> I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size > >> vs’s deployment size

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Kris G. Lindgren > wrote: >> >> I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size >> vs’s deployment size is, as I am trying to use this in an internal company >> discussion. > > It is d

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
. Thanks, Kevin From: Clint Byrum [cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:26 PM To: openstack-operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size Excerpts from gustavo panizzo (gfa)'s message of

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from gustavo panizzo (gfa)'s message of 2016-09-09 22:07:49 +0800: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 03:52:42PM +, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > > I completely agree about the general rule of thumb. I am only looking at > > the team that specifically supports openstack. For us frontend support

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Silence Dogood
I want desperately to see a failed deployments talk at summit. I'd be glad to contribute but we'd need info on a variety of failure states. On Sep 12, 2016 1:05 PM, "Jonathan D. Proulx" wrote: > > I agree this would make a very interesting OPs session. > > As many have poitned out it's difficul

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
I agree this would make a very interesting OPs session. As many have poitned out it's difficult to really quantify in a comparable way given the range of roles and approches. We have 1 region (going on 2) with 100 hypervisors providing a basic IaaS service (agian looking to expand into various X

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-09 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > > I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size > vs’s deployment size is, as I am trying to use this in an internal company > discussion. It is difficult to come up with numbers without context as not all team a

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-09 Thread gustavo panizzo (gfa)
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 03:52:42PM +, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > I completely agree about the general rule of thumb. I am only looking at the > team that specifically supports openstack. For us frontend support for > public clouds is handled by another team/org all together. in my previous

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-08 Thread Tim Bell
to the cloud with only a < Date: Thursday 8 September 2016 at 17:52 To: "Van Leeuwen, Robert" , openstack-operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size I completely agree about the general rule of thumb. I am only looking at the team

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-08 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
uot; Date: Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 1:33 AM To: "Kris G. Lindgren" , OpenStack Operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size > I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size vs’s > deployment size is, >

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-08 Thread Van Leeuwen, Robert
> I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size vs’s > deployment size is, > as I am trying to use this in an internal company discussion. > Right now we are in the order of ~260 Compute servers per Openstack > Dev/Engineer. > So trying to see how we compare with other

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-07 Thread xav
On Wed, 2016-09-07 at 22:59 +, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team > size vs’s deployment size is, as I am trying to use this in an > internal company discussion. Right now we are in the order of ~260 > Compute se

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-07 Thread Silence Dogood
early days was 2 full time 2 part time for a cluster size of a couple hundred. On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size > vs’s deployment size is, as I am trying to use this in an interna

[Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-07 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
Hello all, I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size vs’s deployment size is, as I am trying to use this in an internal company discussion. Right now we are in the order of ~260 Compute servers per Openstack Dev/Engineer. So trying to see how we compare with oth