Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/14/2013 07:54 PM, Caitlin Bestler wrote: > On 11/14/2013 5:12 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I think that we have recently reached critical mass for the >> openstack-dev mailing-list, with 2267 messages posted in October, and >> November well on its way to pass 2000 again.

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/14/2013 02:46 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-14 05:12:55 -0800: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I think that we have recently reached critical mass for the >> openstack-dev mailing-list, with 2267 messages posted in October, and >> November well on its way

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/15/2013 04:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Le 14/11/2013 20:46, Clint Byrum a écrit : >> >> Now, choose which city will grow faster and produce more innovation. >> > > The problem is larger than only innovation, it is also making sure the > Stackforge projects are also a starting point for c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] New plug-ins requirements

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/12/2013 10:15 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: > On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Robert Collins wrote: >> On 12 November 2013 21:15, Edgar Magana wrote: >>> Team, >>> >>> It has been decided during the Icehouse summit that all vendor specific >>> plug-ins should enforce remote tempest tests:

Re: [openstack-dev] Is Havana keystone rpm actually splitting identity and assignment?

2013-11-15 Thread Avi L
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 11/15/2013 11:15 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: > > This list is for development discussion only. Since this sounds like a > question specific to RHEL, might I suggest you ask it on > http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/ ? > > > Nah, this is legit. >

Re: [openstack-dev] Using AD for keystone authentication only

2013-11-15 Thread Avi L
Hi, On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 11/14/2013 07:37 PM, Avi L wrote: > > I have installed openstack-keystone-2013.2-0.11.b3.el6.noarch rpm and I > added a active directory user "test123" with role admin and tenant admin > successfully. > > However when I run keystone u

Re: [openstack-dev] Openstack + OpenContrail

2013-11-15 Thread Deepinder Singh Setia
I would like to add that the work in forked devstack is ongoing and not complete. I am trying to understand what would it take to push these changes upstream such as coding requirements, testing, code organization, documentation etc. Thanks Deepinder From: Deepinder Setia mailto:dse...@junipe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Summit Session Summaries

2013-11-15 Thread Yongsheng Gong
great, thanks On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Mark Washenberger < mark.washenber...@markwash.net> wrote: > Hi folks, > > My summary notes from the OpenStack Design Summit Glance sessions follow. > Enjoy, and please help correct any misunderstandings. > > > > Image State Consistency: > -

[openstack-dev] Openstack + OpenContrail

2013-11-15 Thread Deepinder Singh Setia
I forked devstack a few weeks ago to integrate with OpenContrail at https://github.com/dsetia/devstack. This installs and launches OpenContrail in addition to openstack components. OpenContrail provides network virtualization components - SDN controller, Virtual Router and analytics - via ne

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list

2013-11-15 Thread Alex Freedland
Agree with Clint completely! In my opinion it would be a big mistake to separate the lists. There are tools in modern e-mail readers to filter specific content into separate views. Why should OpenStack Foundation do it for us? Alex Freedland Co-Founder and Chairman Mirantis, Inc. On Thu, Nov 1

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate 0.8.1

2013-11-15 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-11-15 14:12:27 -0800 (-0800), Bhuvan Arumugam wrote: [...] > Can someone push 0.8.2 to pypi.openstack.org and keep unittests > happy? Clark just retriggered the mirror jobs manually and pypi.openstack.org now has 0.8.2 as of ~5 minutes ago. The mirror is usually only automatically updated

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] New plug-ins requirements

2013-11-15 Thread Mark McClain
On Nov 14, 2013, at 2:02 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > > I do agree with you. When I said in my first email "little bit of guidance" I > mean the policy for Icehouse and moving forward. I do not want to make our > PTL angry :-) I wouldn’t worry about making me angry. I officiated football (socc

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Proposals for Tempest core

2013-11-15 Thread Giulio Fidente
On 11/15/2013 02:38 PM, Sean Dague wrote: Masayuki Igawa His review history is here - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/reviewer:masayuki.igawa%2540gmail.com+project:openstack/tempest,n,z Ken'ichi Ohmichi His review history is here - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/reviewer:ken1ohmichi%2540gma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, With slight modifications of (2) one can benefit of availability: 1. There should not be a master node. Each heat engine should be able to act as a master if someone asks it to deploy a template. Current master engine will be responsible to contact other engines and pass them the same template

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Proposals for Tempest core

2013-11-15 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 08:38:27 -0500 Sean Dague wrote: > It's post summit time, so time to evaluate our current core group for > Tempest. There are a few community members that I'd like to nominate > for Tempest core, as I've found their review feedback over the last > few months to be invaluable. T

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-15 Thread yunhong jiang
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 17:19 -0500, Andrew Laski wrote: > On 11/15/13 at 07:30am, Dan Smith wrote: > >> You're not missing anything. But I think that's a bug, or at least an > >> unexpected change in behaviour from how it used to work. If you follow > >> instance_update() in nova.db.sqlalchemy.api

Re: [openstack-dev] Is Havana keystone rpm actually splitting identity and assignment?

2013-11-15 Thread Adam Young
On 11/15/2013 11:15 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: This list is for development discussion only. Since this sounds like a question specific to RHEL, might I suggest you ask it on http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/ ? Nah, this is legit. Thanks. -Ben On 2013-11-15 10:13, Abhishek Lahiri wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/11/13 22:17, Keith Bray wrote: The way I view 2 vs. 4 is that 2 is more complicated and you don't gain any benefit of availability. If, in 2, your global heat endpoint is down, you can't update the whole stack. You have to work around it by talking to Heat (or the individual service endpo

Re: [openstack-dev] Using AD for keystone authentication only

2013-11-15 Thread Adam Young
On 11/14/2013 07:37 PM, Avi L wrote: I have installed openstack-keystone-2013.2-0.11.b3.el6.noarch rpm and I added a active directory user "test123" with role admin and tenant admin successfully. However when I run keystone user-list if gives me the following error: Authorization Failed: An un

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [openstack][neutron] problems accesing metadata on OVS VLAN mode (havana)

2013-11-15 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Hi Alejandro, As we've already discussed the topic over IRC, let me add something else on your setup: - no dhcp agent, no l3 agent - IP configuration injected into instances (I'm disclosing this information since it's already been disclosed on IRC whose logs are publicly accessible anyway) Commen

Re: [openstack-dev] Congress: an open policy framework

2013-11-15 Thread Adam Young
On 11/14/2013 11:39 AM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: I completely agree that making Congress successful will rely crucially on addressing performance and scalability issues. Some thoughts... 1. We're definitely intending to cache data locally to avoid repeated API calls. In fact, a prototype cache is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][object] One question to the resource tracker session

2013-11-15 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
I have no particular part thus any part that need help is ok for me. My own purpose is to support dynamic resource claim to support live migration to instance with hardware allocated. For instance with device assigned (PCI device, USB or everything), we can't migrate it unless it's unplugged. A

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/15/13 at 07:30am, Dan Smith wrote: You're not missing anything. But I think that's a bug, or at least an unexpected change in behaviour from how it used to work. If you follow instance_update() in nova.db.sqlalchemy.api just the presence of expected_task_state triggers the check. So we m

[openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate 0.8.1

2013-11-15 Thread Bhuvan Arumugam
Team, Right now pypi.openstack.org has v0.8.1. This version of sqlalchemy-migrate use incorrect version format 0.7.3.dev. It break unittests for several components, nova for example. http://pypi.openstack.org/openstack/sqlalchemy-migrate/ Apparently, David Ripton fixed it and also Monty improved i

[openstack-dev] [Solum] SFO Design Workshop

2013-11-15 Thread Roshan Agrawal
We are all set for the Solum design workshops at SFO on Nov 19,20. The etherpad page below has schedule and agenda details https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SolumSFOCommunityWorkshop Please sign up as topic leads/scribe for the sessions listed in the agenda. We also have etherpad pages setup for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 04:53 PM, Rochelle.Grober wrote: Perhaps all this sound and fury will get a some entity to step up and provide Neutron project t-shirts for the sprint;-) Then maybe the participants will *want* to wear the Neutron Team shirt. And as for errors, Anita, I fully understand, sympath

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-15 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Smith [mailto:d...@danplanet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 7:30 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); > isaku.yamah...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue > > > You're no

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Rochelle.Grober
Perhaps all this sound and fury will get a some entity to step up and provide Neutron project t-shirts for the sprint;-) Then maybe the participants will *want* to wear the Neutron Team shirt. And as for errors, Anita, I fully understand, sympathize and have experience in that area. --Rocky

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Rochelle.Grober
Coming from QA/Ops, I agree that there are horizontal teams that need to get info from the mailing list(s) across the spectrum. I also agree with Clint's and Adrian's statements about the synergies and serendipities of all the developers on one list. But I also understand the feeling of drowni

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Keith Bray
The way I view 2 vs. 4 is that 2 is more complicated and you don't gain any benefit of availability. If, in 2, your global heat endpoint is down, you can't update the whole stack. You have to work around it by talking to Heat (or the individual service endpoints) in the region that is still alive

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Troubleshooting OVS RPC API unit test error

2013-11-15 Thread Collins, Sean (Contractor)
Ah. Here's why. diff --git a/neutron/tests/unit/openvswitch/test_ovs_qos.py b/neutron/tests/unit/openvswitch/test_ovs_qos.py index 3450b2c..8feaef4 100644 --- a/neutron/tests/unit/openvswitch/test_ovs_qos.py +++ b/neutron/tests/unit/openvswitch/test_ovs_qos.py @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ class OpenvswitchQ

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate needs a new release

2013-11-15 Thread Bhuvan Arumugam
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Dan Prince wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Ripton" > > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:47:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate needs a new release > > > > On 11/15/2013 1

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Summit Session Summaries

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Washenberger
Hi folks, My summary notes from the OpenStack Design Summit Glance sessions follow. Enjoy, and please help correct any misunderstandings. Image State Consistency: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-image-state-consistency In this session, we focused on t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/11/13 18:24, Bartosz Górski wrote: Hi Thomas, Each of the two engines will be able to create resources in both regions. We do not need to add anything in the heat client. Right now when you want to create a new stack (using heat client or directly API) you need to provide: - stack name -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Find the compute host on which a VM runs

2013-11-15 Thread Mark McClain
Stefan- Your workflow is very similar to many other plugins. You’ll want to look at implementing the port binding extension in your plugin. The port binding extension allows Nova to inform Neutron of the host where the VM is running. mark On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Stefan Apostoaie wrot

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Steven Dake
On 11/15/2013 01:41 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that we all needed at the design summit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_Missing_Diagram I've documented 5 possibilities. (1) is th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Zane Bitter
Good news, everyone! I have created the missing whiteboard diagram that we all needed at the design summit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat/The_Missing_Diagram I've documented 5 possibilities. (1) is the current implementation, which we agree we wa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Plugin and Driver Inclusion Requirements

2013-11-15 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I also completely agree with this policy - and I hope all the developers contributing code to non-core plugins like me will agree as well. There is nothing like verifiability. This will also make a lot easier code reviews for non-core plugins; one of the reasons for which these reviews tend to have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > Surely those are local deployment policy decisions that shouldn't affect > the development of capabilities in heat itself, right? If a deployer does > not want one heat deployment to be able to reach some endpoints, they'll > set up a lo

Re: [openstack-dev] Shall backward compatibility env. vars be removed from python-clients?

2013-11-15 Thread Sanchez, Cristian A
Hi, Going back to the original message, how do you think we should proceed with this bug? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55588/). Shall a new one be created to remove the deprecated environment variables in all clients? Thanks Cristian On 11/11/13 16:56, "Kevin L. Mitchell" wrote: >On Mon

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] User registrations

2013-11-15 Thread Adam Young
On 11/10/2013 07:26 PM, Paul Belanger wrote: Greeting, In a previous thread I talked about building an application atop of horizon and keystone. So far things are working out pretty well. One thing I have been trying to figure out is how to move forward with user registration for the horizon a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-15 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Zane Bitter wrote on 11/14/2013 12:56:22 PM: > ... > My 2c: the way I designed the Heat API was such that extant stacks can > be addressed uniquely by name. Humans are pretty good with names, not so > much with 128 bit numbers. The consequences of this for the design were: > - names must be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 02:33 PM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: Apologies for forking the thread. Not at all. You do want you need to do. I think this is probably the last post with some content which might be useful for a discussion which does not involve fashion police. I'm all for content for useful discu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Command Line Interface for Solum

2013-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Adrian Otto wrote: > Doug, > > On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Doug Hellmann > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Noorul Islam K M wrote: > >> >> Hello all, >> >> I registered a new blueprint [1] for command line client interface for >> Solum. We ne

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] future fate of nova-network?

2013-11-15 Thread Davanum Srinivas
fyi. gate-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-large-ops is now a bit more stable (compare [1] and [2]) with the Nova change [3]. Joe earlier posted a call to arms [4] yesterday. [1] http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJcIkZpbmlzaGVkOiBGQUlMVVJFXCIgQU5EIGJ1aWxkX25hbWU6XCJnYXRlLXRlbXBlc3QtZGV2c3Rh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Apologies for forking the thread. I think this is probably the last post with some content which might be useful for a discussion which does not involve fashion police. On another note, I've seen my name is in the list of the required attendees. To be fair and honest I'm not any more required than

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 11:28 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I > > think the same sort of standards shold be applied for a new third-party > > API, such

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] future fate of nova-network?

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/15/2013 01:26 PM, Lorin Hochstein wrote: > Was the fate of nova-network discussed at the icehouse summit? Yes. [1][2] > In particular, has there been a decision made about whether it will > definitely be deprecated in some (as yet unspecified) future release, or > whether it will continue t

Re: [openstack-dev] how can I know a new instance is created from the code ?

2013-11-15 Thread Stephen Gran
On 15/11/13 18:55, terryxing wrote: Hi Dear All, I am wondering that is there any way in Openstack to know when new instance is created ? is there any Python API to do this ? Since I want to monitor the instance creation event and trigger another event, thus, my program needs to be know wheneve

Re: [openstack-dev] how can I know a new instance is created from the code ?

2013-11-15 Thread Christopher Duryee
- Original Message - > Hi Dear All, > > I am wondering that is there any way in Openstack to know when new instance > is created ? is there any Python API to do this ? Since I want to monitor > the instance creation event and trigger another event, thus, my program > needs to be know whe

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/15/2013 12:24 PM, Bartosz Górski wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Each of the two engines will be able to create resources in both regions. > We do not need to add anything in the heat client. > > Right now when you want to create a new stack (using heat client or > directly API) you need to provi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Icehouse Blueprints

2013-11-15 Thread Alex Glikson
Russell Bryant wrote on 15/11/2013 06:49:31 PM: > 3) If you have work planned for Icehouse, please get your blueprints > filed as soon as possible. Be sure to set a realistic target milestone. > So far, *everyone* has targeted *everything* to icehouse-1, which is > set to be released in less th

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate needs a new release

2013-11-15 Thread Dan Prince
- Original Message - > From: "David Ripton" > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:47:58 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate needs a new release > > On 11/15/2013 10:41 AM, David Ripton wrote: > > > sqlalchemy-migrate-0.8.1 is now u

[openstack-dev] how can I know a new instance is created from the code ?

2013-11-15 Thread terryxing
Hi Dear All, I am wondering that is there any way in Openstack to know when new instance is created ? is there any Python API to do this ? Since I want to monitor the instance creation event and trigger another event, thus, my program needs to be know whenever a new instance is created. I can ru

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum/Heat] Is Solum really necessary?

2013-11-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/15/2013 11:15 AM, Jason Dunsmore wrote: Great description of Heat vs. Solum! This belongs in the FAQs of both projects IMO. This question is bound to keep coming up (for good reason). Indeed, Angus' descriptions as well as many of the other folks on this thread were great and definitel

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate needs a new release

2013-11-15 Thread David Ripton
On 11/15/2013 10:41 AM, David Ripton wrote: sqlalchemy-migrate-0.8.1 is now up on PyPI. Thanks fungi for kicking PyPI for me. So there was a hardcoded version number inside migrate/__init__.py, which broke things when I didn't manually update it to sync with the new release's version number

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Stephen Gran
On 15/11/13 18:35, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: First of all, I believe this approach assumes that heat engine can reach API endpoints which are located in different region. I am not sure if it is a default deployment approach when someone is exposing OpenStack services endpoints to the outside o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi Bartosz, Could you please clarify the section about resource creation in other regions via calling their endpoints? >So from heat engine point of view there is not big change in the workflow. Heat will parse the template, >create the >dependencies graph and start creating resources in the same

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 01:13 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 12:47 -0500, Anita Kuno wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:34 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:16 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Dan Smith wrote: Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 12:58 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:47 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: I will also note, that while you clearly stated the Neutron is being considered for deprecation - t-shirts prevail as an issue on this thread. I consider that rather interesting to observe. Believe me, I'd m

[openstack-dev] [nova] future fate of nova-network?

2013-11-15 Thread Lorin Hochstein
Was the fate of nova-network discussed at the icehouse summit? In particular, has there been a decision made about whether it will definitely be deprecated in some (as yet unspecified) future release, or whether it will continue to be supported for the foreseeable future? Lorin -- Lorin Hochstei

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Joshua Harlow
Another thing that I remember from talking with people who work at yahoo on the hadoop project and was an insight early on for me. I remember those folks saying that about 2 hours of there day is spent on catching up on mailing list emails and reviews. This is/was a change in how they operated when

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 12:47 -0500, Anita Kuno wrote: > On 11/15/2013 12:34 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > > On 11/15/2013 12:16 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Dan Smith wrote: > Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. > >>> Add my

Re: [openstack-dev] [sqlalchemy-migrate] Blueprint for review: Add DB2 10.5 Support

2013-11-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Nov 15, 2013 9:36 AM, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: > > > > On 11/15/2013 10:15 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/14/2013 10:38 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >>> >>> Joe, >>> >>> Hey, I missed this question. I moved email accounts for the >>> openstack-dev mailing list and missed this in my ol

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova XML serialization bug 1223358 moving discussion here to get more people involved

2013-11-15 Thread Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Vish, Thank you very much indeed for your reply! >From: Vishvananda Ishaya [mailto:vishvana...@gmail.com] >Sent: 12 November 2013 21:56 >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Nova XML serialization bug 1223358 moving >discussion here to

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Straw man to start the incubation / graduation requirements discussion

2013-11-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 06:57 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > (Apologies, this started on the TC list, and really should have started > on -dev, correctly posting here now for open discussion) > > There were a few chats at summit about this, mostly on the infra / > devstack / qa side of the house. Consid

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/15/2013 12:47 PM, Anita Kuno wrote: > I will also note, that while you clearly stated the Neutron is being > considered for deprecation - t-shirts prevail as an issue on this > thread. I consider that rather interesting to observe. Believe me, I'd much rather be able to focus on what actuall

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/15/2013 12:32 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: >> If so, do we apply the same standards to the EC2 API? >> How much time do we give EC2 to get up to this standard before we rip >> it out? > > I hadn't understood the EC2 API to be in such a woeful state. Are we > saying the implementation is so bad

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stefano Maffulli's message of 2013-11-15 09:12:05 -0800: > On 11/15/2013 02:06 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Arguments in favor of splitting openstack-dev / stackforge-dev > > * People can easily filter out all non-openstack discussions > > * Traffic would drop by about 25% > > I'm n

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 12:34 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/15/2013 12:16 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Dan Smith wrote: Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. Add my name to the list of people that won't be considering the trip as a resul

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Troubleshooting OVS RPC API unit test error

2013-11-15 Thread Collins, Sean (Contractor)
I fired up the tests in a virtual machine, and when you run the full tox - it'll error out like Jenkins does, but when you run just the one module of tests by itself, it passes. http://paste.openstack.org/show/53159/ -- Sean M. Collins ___ OpenStack-de

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 11/15/2013 12:16 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Dan Smith wrote: Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. >>> >>> Add my name to the list of people that won't be considerin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] DiskBuilder / savanna-image-elements

2013-11-15 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Erik, correct, savanna-image-elements is the right place for your dib elements. There is no need to separate vanilla and hdp elements to different sub packages but btw it could be easily done by appending ELEMENTS_PATH as Clint said. Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Miran

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/15/2013 12:16 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: > On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. >> >> Add my name to the list of people that won't be considering the trip as >> a result. >> > Are people really saying tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [sqlalchemy-migrate] Blueprint for review: Add DB2 10.5 Support

2013-11-15 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 11/15/2013 10:15 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 11/14/2013 10:38 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: Joe, Hey, I missed this question. I moved email accounts for the openstack-dev mailing list and missed this in my old pile. So I touched on this a bit in response here [1] and also a bit when talki

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 12:19 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 11/15/2013 12:01 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 11:28 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> > >> We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I > >> think the same sort of standard

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Continue discussing multi-region orchestration

2013-11-15 Thread Bartosz Górski
Hi Thomas, Each of the two engines will be able to create resources in both regions. We do not need to add anything in the heat client. Right now when you want to create a new stack (using heat client or directly API) you need to provide: - stack name - template - parameters (if need) - tenant

Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] DiskBuilder / savanna-image-elements

2013-11-15 Thread Matthew Farrellee
On 11/15/2013 12:14 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Erik Bergenholtz's message of 2013-11-15 08:20:36 -0800: Team - We’d like to move our disk creation mechanism over to using DiskBuilder so that users can build (and modify) their own VM images. We’d like to piggy back off of the existin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/15/2013 12:01 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 11:28 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I >> think the same sort of standards shold be applied for a new third-party >> API, such as the GCE API

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] Blob in keystone v3 certificate API

2013-11-15 Thread Dolph Mathews
It sounds like you're looking for barbican :) https://github.com/stackforge/barbican On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: > Hi Keystone guys > > I'm going to use keystone credentials API to store SSL-VPN certificate. > However I have a concern about blob attribute. > > Since i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 12:04 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. Add my name to the list of people that won't be considering the trip as a result. --Dan I acknowledge your choice, Dan. Thanks, Anita. ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Dan Smith wrote: >> Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. > > Add my name to the list of people that won't be considering the trip as > a result. > Are people really saying that if they show up for this Tempest sprint with a logo shirt th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] DiskBuilder / savanna-image-elements

2013-11-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Erik Bergenholtz's message of 2013-11-15 08:20:36 -0800: > Team - > > We’d like to move our disk creation mechanism over to using DiskBuilder so > that users can build (and modify) their own VM images. We’d like to piggy > back off of the existing mechanism that the vanilla plugin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove][Savanna][Murano] Unified Agent proposal discussion at Summit

2013-11-15 Thread Alexander Ignatov
Ilya, Igor I’ve created separate etherpad for UnifiedAgents approach: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UnifiedAgents I described here initial Savanna's requirements from GuestAgent solution which were discussed in the design summit. Trove and Murano team are welcome to describe their needs in gu

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] team meeting Friday 15 November @ 14:00 UTC

2013-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > The Oslo team will meet in #openstack-meeting this Friday at 1400 UTC to > discuss the i18n work and planning based on the outcome of the summit. See > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting for > a more detaile

[openstack-dev] [oslo] tracking graduation status for incubated code

2013-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
During our meeting today, we talked about how to track the graduation status for the incubator code. I copied the notes from the summit session where we talked about the status of a lot of the modules into a wiki page for longer-term tracking ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus)

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/15/2013 02:06 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Arguments in favor of splitting openstack-dev / stackforge-dev > * People can easily filter out all non-openstack discussions > * Traffic would drop by about 25% I'm not so convinced about this figure, as others pointed out. > * Removes confusion as

Re: [openstack-dev] Split of the openstack-dev list (summary so far)

2013-11-15 Thread Thierry Carrez
Adrian Otto wrote: > If OpenStack starts a culture of exclusion instead of inclusion, that would > start a dangerous trend that sets the wrong tone. It would quickly reach the > point where new projects like mine would simply not come here. We would go > somewhere else that does have a culture o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Dan Smith
> Thanks for weighing in, I do hope to keep the conversation going. Add my name to the list of people that won't be considering the trip as a result. --Dan ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-15 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 11:28 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: > Greetings, > > We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I > think the same sort of standards shold be applied for a new third-party > API, such as the GCE API [2]. > > Before we can consider taking on a new API,

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Icehouse Blueprints

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, I've received a lot of requests for blueprint reviews in the last week (on the list, IRC, direct email, etc). I figured now was a good time to recap where we are with Icehouse blueprints. 1) We've had a discussion both on the mailing list [1] and at the design summit [2] about the pro

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Proposals for Tempest core

2013-11-15 Thread David Kranz
+1 for Ken'ichi and Masayuki Sorry to see Jay go :-( -David On 11/15/2013 08:38 AM, Sean Dague wrote: It's post summit time, so time to evaluate our current core group for Tempest. There are a few community members that I'd like to nominate for Tempest core, as I've found their review feedback

[openstack-dev] [Nova] New API requirements, review of GCE

2013-11-15 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, We've talked a lot about requirements for new compute drivers [1]. I think the same sort of standards shold be applied for a new third-party API, such as the GCE API [2]. Before we can consider taking on a new API, it should have full test suite coverage. Ideally this would be extens

Re: [openstack-dev] Is Havana keystone rpm actually splitting identity and assignment?

2013-11-15 Thread Ben Nemec
This list is for development discussion only. Since this sounds like a question specific to RHEL, might I suggest you ask it on http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/ ? Thanks. -Ben On 2013-11-15 10:13, Abhishek Lahiri wrote: >> I have installed openstack-keystone-2013.2-0.11.b3.el6.noarch r

Re: [openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate needs a new release

2013-11-15 Thread Roman Podoliaka
Hey, Awesome! Thank you, guys! I'm going to give it a try early next week (we basically need to run/fix tests for every project that uses sqlalchemy-migrate before we can bump the version in global-requirements, but at least we can start doing this now). Roman On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM, D

[openstack-dev] [Savanna] DiskBuilder / savanna-image-elements

2013-11-15 Thread Erik Bergenholtz
Team - We’d like to move our disk creation mechanism over to using DiskBuilder so that users can build (and modify) their own VM images. We’d like to piggy back off of the existing mechanism that the vanilla plugin uses. It looks like I should be able to add image-elements to savanna-image-ele

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron Tempest code sprint - 2nd week of January, Montreal, QC, Canada

2013-11-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 11/15/2013 11:01 AM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) wrote: On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/13/2013 11:10 AM, Anita Kuno wrote: Neutron Tempest code sprint In the second week of January in Montreal, Quebec, Canadathere will be a Neutron Tempest code sprint to improve the s

Re: [openstack-dev] [sqlalchemy-migrate] Blueprint for review: Add DB2 10.5 Support

2013-11-15 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 11/14/2013 10:38 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: Joe, Hey, I missed this question. I moved email accounts for the openstack-dev mailing list and missed this in my old pile. So I touched on this a bit in response here [1] and also a bit when talking about the plans for CI for the nova PowerVM vi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum/Heat] Is Solum really necessary?

2013-11-15 Thread Jason Dunsmore
Great description of Heat vs. Solum! This belongs in the FAQs of both projects IMO. This question is bound to keep coming up (for good reason). On Thu, Nov 14 2013, Angus Salkeld wrote: > On 14/11/13 13:41 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: >>So while I have been on vacation, I've been thinking about Solu

[openstack-dev] Is Havana keystone rpm actually splitting identity and assignment?

2013-11-15 Thread Abhishek Lahiri
> I have installed openstack-keystone-2013.2-0.11.b3.el6.noarch rpm and I added > a active directory user "test123" with role admin and tenant admin > successfully. In Keystone.conf identity is pointed to ldap and assignment is > pointed to SQL. I sourced keystonerc file with the correct cred

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